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Thread: 3-4 ILBs and DEs in the 2nd round and further

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    [QUOTE=patman;2985630]The pats are picking at about 88 and 97 in the third (samuel) If they get him for the 97 pick I will be pleased, I dont think he will be there at 120 when the pats pick in the forth.[/QUOTE]

    He will go that high? The Pats could use a replacement for Bruschi and with that front three he will be able to shoot the gaps or blitz, something that Brinkley is great at; for that reason the Jets must get him. :yes:

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    [QUOTE=XingDaorong;2985873]Great post Mo, and what is it about Williams that's keeping his draft stock down? From the highlight vids on him he looks like a fast and intuitive linebacker but you're right, he is not as tall as I thought he was. Would he be worth taking in the 4th or 5th rounds?[/QUOTE]

    I think its still great value if we get him in the 4-5 rounds...he might not have the height you want, but I still think he is an NFL starter in the future...getting someone who has speed and can hit like a pile of bricks in the 4-5 is great, whats a couple of inches?...if he was a first round prospect Id worry more about height than later on.

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    [QUOTE=XingDaorong;2985876]He will go that high? The Pats could use a replacement for Bruschi and with that front three he will be able to shoot the gaps or blitz, something that Brinkley is great at; for that reason the Jets must get him. :yes:[/QUOTE]


    Brinkley to me is a perfect fit for the pats as a two down run stuffer. Mayo is a three down player and Guyton (fastest lb last year) is a great fit in passing situations.

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    [QUOTE=intothegreen;2985937]I think its still great value if we get him in the 4-5 rounds...he might not have the height you want, but I still think he is an NFL starter in the future...getting someone who has speed and can hit like a pile of bricks in the 4-5 is great, whats a couple of inches?...if he was a first round prospect Id worry more about height than later on.[/QUOTE]

    If Williams is a shifty, smaller linebacker then the Jets could get creative and bring in Williams as a pass specialist and Brinkley or another ILB as a run stopper. The Titans play Stephen Tulloch as their cover linebacker, and Williams isn't that far off from Tulloch in terms of size and the way he plays. We can't forget either that we have Trusnik, who may very well be a starting caliber ILB for this team.

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    [QUOTE=patman;2986093]Brinkley to me is a perfect fit for the pats as a two down run stuffer. Mayo is a three down player and Guyton (fastest lb last year) is a great fit in passing situations.[/QUOTE]

    Guyton is an underrated player, and after watching the last Pats-Jets match up he looked way better the Bruschi or whoever else he was filling in for. Mayo looked good this season as a run stopper but he was torched on that 3rd and 15 to Keller, as well as a number of shorter routes that the Jets ran. Either way he'll improve and is better than the "$55 million dollar man" we drafted.

    As for Brinkley there has to be something else that is keeping him down in the draft. One injury wouldn't drive a "hot prospect" at his position down into the second day or into undrafted free agency would it? I mean the guy has displayed solid run stopping skills, isn't afraid to take on blockers, and plays in the SEC. What's not to like?

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    [QUOTE=XingDaorong;2985873]Great post Mo, and what is it about Williams that's keeping his draft stock down? From the highlight vids on him he looks like a fast and intuitive linebacker but you're right, he is not as tall as I thought he was. Would he be worth taking in the 4th or 5th rounds?[/QUOTE]

    I think size is the biggest knock on him plus I think a lot of people are down on the Pac10 as a conference with the exception of USC. He also isn't the most flashiest player who will make tons of highlight plays. Tackling a receiver short of a first down won't get you as much recognition in the big picture as a 1.0 sack number. He also had a very good sidekick in Zach Follett who might have taken away some of the praise. This is all speculation but I think we are looking at a clear example for measurements and size dictating a prospect's stock. Now I wouldn't touch him with a much higher pick either, as he clearly isn't the tallest guy around, yet he might fall a little too far and become a steal for someone. 4th round would be very solid value in my eyes and 5th round would be tremendous.

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    [QUOTE=Flaming Mo;2985856]Can anyone clarify how many picks we have now?!? Thanks in advance...[/QUOTE]



    Here you go Mo.............



    Here's the Current Jet's Picks for April's Draft. Please remember they will change from the 4th round to the 7th when comp pick are added (we'll get pushed back). I don't expect the Jets to get any comp picks. We could get another 7th from GB (Favre Deal). I believe there is a clause if Favre retires in 1 year, the Jets get GB's 7th rd pick.

    Rd 1.........#17
    Rd 2.........#53
    Rd 3.........#76 (from New Orleans)
    Rd 4........#111 (from Washington)
    Rd 5........#146
    Rd 6........#177
    Rd 7........#209

    We lost a 3rd round pick to GB (Favre) & a 4th to New Orleans (Vilma deal)

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    [QUOTE=Flaming Mo;2986221]I think size is the biggest knock on him plus I think a lot of people are down on the Pac10 as a conference with the exception of USC. He also isn't the most flashiest player who will make tons of highlight plays. Tackling a receiver short of a first down won't get you as much recognition in the big picture as a 1.0 sack number. He also had a very good sidekick in Zach Follett who might have taken away some of the praise. This is all speculation but I think we are looking at a clear example for measurements and size dictating a prospect's stock. Now I wouldn't touch him with a much higher pick either, as he clearly isn't the tallest guy around, yet he might fall a little too far and become a steal for someone. 4th round would be very solid value in my eyes and 5th round would be tremendous.[/QUOTE]

    Good to know, if he's there in round 5 I hope we get this guy.

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    Corvey Irvin had a great week this past week, and has the size, length, and stoutness to play 3-4 DE.

    He might be the first player on the Georgia D I like for a 3-4.

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    [QUOTE=Chica me Tipo;2986920]Corvey Irvin had a great week this past week, and has the size, length, and stoutness to play 3-4 DE.

    He might be the first player on the Georgia D I like for a 3-4.[/QUOTE]

    He would need to bulk up a bit more but would he me a middle or later round pick?

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    [QUOTE=XingDaorong;2987425]He would need to bulk up a bit more but would he me a middle or later round pick?[/QUOTE]

    Eh...his size isn't bad. He'll probably go second day unless something major happens to him.

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