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    For those worried about 3 picks...

    OK, take a look below. What I'm saying is every year, when it's all said and done, you're looking at 2-3 solid players you're getting on average. If you get 2 big time stars you've achieved your goal.

    If Sanchez and Greene are as good as most people think they will be, (including myself) the Jets just had an A+ draft a la Revis and Harris.

    I love both these players. This team finally has an identity. A winning skilled technician for a QB and a smash-mouth running attack and defense.


    1 6 Vernon Gholston LB Ohio State
    1 30 Dustin Keller TE Purdue
    4 113 Dwight Lowery CB San Jose State
    5 162 Erik Ainge QB Tennessee
    6 171 Marcus Henry WR Kansas
    7 211 Nate Garner OT Ark
    [B]2-3 players worth noting[/B]

    1 14 Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh
    2 47 David Harris ILB Michigan
    6 177 Jacob Bender T Nicholls State
    7 235 Chansi Stuckey WR Clemson
    [B]2 players woth noting[/B]

    1 4 D'Brickashaw Ferguson T Virginia
    1 29 Nick Mangold C Ohio State
    2 49 Kellen Clemens QB Oregon
    3 76 Anthony Schlegel LB Ohio State
    3 97 Eric Smith DB Michigan State
    4 103 Brad Smith WR Missouri
    4 117 Leon Washington RB Florida State
    5 150 Jason Pociask TE Wisconsin
    6 189 Drew Coleman CB Texas Christian
    7 220 Titus Adams DT Nebraska
    [B]3 players worth noting[/B]


    2 47 Mike Nugent K Ohio State
    2 57 Justin Miller CB Clemson
    3 88 Sione Pouha DT Utah
    4 123 Kerry Rhodes SS Louisville
    5 161 Andre Maddox DB North Carolina State
    6 182 Cedric Houston RB Tennessee
    6 198 Joel Dreessen TE Colorado State
    7 240 Harry Williams WR Tuskegee
    [B]1-2 players worth noting[/B]


    1 12 Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami (Fla.)
    3 76 Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
    4 108 Jerricho Cotchery WR North Carolina State
    4 132 Adrian Jones T Kansas
    5 143 Erik Coleman FS Washington State
    6 178 Marko Cavka T Sacramento State
    7 213 Darrell McClover LB Miami (Fla.)
    7 234 Trevor Johnson DE Nebraska
    7 235 Derrick Ward RB Ottawa (Kans.)
    7 236 Rashad Washington DB Kansas State
    [B]2 players worth noting[/B]

    1 4 Dewayne Robertson DT Kentucky
    2 53 Victor Hobson LB Michigan
    3 85 B.J. Askew FB Michigan
    5 140 Derek Pagel DB Iowa
    5 150 Matt Walters DE Miami (Fla.)
    6 200 Brooks Bollinger QB Wisconsin
    7 237 Dave Yovanovits T Temple
    [B]1 player worth noting[/B]

    1 22 Bryan Thomas DE Alabama-Birmingham
    2 57 Jon McGraw DB Kansas State
    3 88 Chris Baker TE Michigan State
    4 121 Alan Harper DT Fresno State
    5 154 Jonathan Goodwin G Michigan
    [B]1-2 players worth noting[/B]

    1 16 Santana Moss WR Miami (Fla.)
    2 49 LaMont Jordan RB Maryland
    3 79 Kareem McKenzie T Penn State
    4 101 Jamie Henderson DB Georgia
    7 206 James Reed DT Iowa State
    7 217 Tupe Peko G Michigan State
    [B]2-3 players worth noting[/B]

    1 12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
    1 13 John Abraham LB South Carolina
    1 18 Chad Pennington QB Marshall
    1 27 Anthony Becht TE West Virginia
    3 78 Laveranues Coles WR Florida State
    5 143 Windrell Hayes WR USC
    6 179 Tony Scott CB North Carolina State
    7 218 Richard Seals -- Utah
    [B]4 players worth noting[/B]
    Last edited by HessStation; 04-26-2009 at 10:26 AM.

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    [QUOTE=HessStation;3103065]OK, take a look below.

    7 218 Richard Seals -- Utah
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    Richard Seals we barely knew ya'

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    Derrick Ward is worth noting. Agree with your premise btw ...

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    Ya I agree that teams are lucky to hit on a couple players per draft...but the other players provide good depth for the team and thats what my concern is. I like that they are getting their guys, but I just hope they dont have major injuries.

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    My only problem is that you must have depth on your team. It's fine to have 22 excellent starters but once 3 or 4 get injured what are you going to do?

    I don't mind trading up to get our guy but we better hope we bag some really good UDFA's. The Jets are going to have ddepth issues.

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    [QUOTE=intothegreen;3103085]Ya I agree that teams are lucky to hit on a couple players per draft...but the other players provide good depth for the team and thats what my concern is. I like that they are getting their guys, but I just hope they dont have major injuries.[/QUOTE]

    Any team with major injuries to their best players are screwed and not winning any Super Bowls, despite who the back up is.

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    [QUOTE=HessStation;3103065]OK, take a look below. What I'm saying is every year, when it's all said and done, you're looking at 2-3 solid players you're getting on average. If you get 2 big time stars you've achieved your goal.

    If Sanchez and Greene are as good as most people think they will be, (including myself) the Jets just had an A+ draft a la Revis and Harris.

    I love both these players. This team finally has an identity. A winning skilled technician for a QB and a smash-mouth running attack and defense.


    1 6 Vernon Gholston LB Ohio State
    1 30 Dustin Keller TE Purdue
    4 113 Dwight Lowery CB San Jose State
    5 162 Erik Ainge QB Tennessee
    6 171 Marcus Henry WR Kansas
    7 211 Nate Garner OT Ark
    [B]2-3 players worth noting[/B]

    1 14 Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh
    2 47 David Harris ILB Michigan
    6 177 Jacob Bender T Nicholls State
    7 235 Chansi Stuckey WR Clemson
    [B]2 players woth noting[/B]

    1 4 D'Brickashaw Ferguson T Virginia
    1 29 Nick Mangold C Ohio State
    2 49 Kellen Clemens QB Oregon
    3 76 Anthony Schlegel LB Ohio State
    3 97 Eric Smith DB Michigan State
    4 103 Brad Smith WR Missouri
    4 117 Leon Washington RB Florida State
    5 150 Jason Pociask TE Wisconsin
    6 189 Drew Coleman CB Texas Christian
    7 220 Titus Adams DT Nebraska
    [B]3 players worth noting[/B]


    2 47 Mike Nugent K Ohio State
    2 57 Justin Miller CB Clemson
    3 88 Sione Pouha DT Utah
    4 123 Kerry Rhodes SS Louisville
    5 161 Andre Maddox DB North Carolina State
    6 182 Cedric Houston RB Tennessee
    6 198 Joel Dreessen TE Colorado State
    7 240 Harry Williams WR Tuskegee
    [B]1-2 players worth noting[/B]


    1 12 Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami (Fla.)
    3 76 Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
    4 108 Jerricho Cotchery WR North Carolina State
    4 132 Adrian Jones T Kansas
    5 143 Erik Coleman FS Washington State
    6 178 Marko Cavka T Sacramento State
    7 213 Darrell McClover LB Miami (Fla.)
    7 234 Trevor Johnson DE Nebraska
    7 235 Derrick Ward RB Ottawa (Kans.)
    7 236 Rashad Washington DB Kansas State
    [B]2 players worth noting[/B]

    1 4 Dewayne Robertson DT Kentucky
    2 53 Victor Hobson LB Michigan
    3 85 B.J. Askew FB Michigan
    5 140 Derek Pagel DB Iowa
    5 150 Matt Walters DE Miami (Fla.)
    6 200 Brooks Bollinger QB Wisconsin
    7 237 Dave Yovanovits T Temple
    [B]1 player worth noting[/B]

    1 22 Bryan Thomas DE Alabama-Birmingham
    2 57 Jon McGraw DB Kansas State
    3 88 Chris Baker TE Michigan State
    4 121 Alan Harper DT Fresno State
    5 154 Jonathan Goodwin G Michigan
    [B]1-2 players worth noting[/B]

    1 16 Santana Moss WR Miami (Fla.)
    2 49 LaMont Jordan RB Maryland
    3 79 Kareem McKenzie T Penn State
    4 101 Jamie Henderson DB Georgia
    7 206 James Reed DT Iowa State
    7 217 Tupe Peko G Michigan State
    [B]2-3 players worth noting[/B]

    1 12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
    1 13 John Abraham LB South Carolina
    1 18 Chad Pennington QB Marshall
    1 27 Anthony Becht TE West Virginia
    3 78 Laveranues Coles WR Florida State
    5 143 Windrell Hayes WR USC
    6 179 Tony Scott CB North Carolina State
    7 218 Richard Seals -- Utah
    [B]4 players worth noting[/B][/QUOTE]

    all you are doing is reminding us that we do not know how to draft!

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    [QUOTE=yanks15;3103103]all you are doing is reminding us that we do not know how to draft![/QUOTE]

    I WILL NOT TAKE THE TIME to through every team, but that is just a ridiculous, ignorant statement. The last 10 years the Jets have had some very good drafts. They certainly are not a laughing stock as some miserable fans go on and on about. It's just a stupid point you're making.

    ANY team who can get 2-3 really good players/year has a pretty good draft.

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    [QUOTE=HessStation;3103092]Any team with major injuries to their best players are screwed and not winning any Super Bowls, despite who the back up is.[/QUOTE]

    Disagree. If you have a ton of injuries perhaps but it is very rare that you get no injuires (like the jets had last year.) Some depth vs no depth is the difference between having adrien clarke starting for you or having someone that can block at bit.

  10. #10
    [QUOTE=HessStation;3103092]Any team with major injuries to their best players are screwed and not winning any Super Bowls, despite who the back up is.[/QUOTE]


    Im not even talking about to thier best players...they are extremely thin on the D and O lines...no true TE...very thin at WR...even minor players could kill the team depending on the area.

  11. #11
    Beer and into,

    You both make very valid points. But I have to say I'll take to potential stars over back up depth. If they are smart they will find a good 6th round DE or TE and good UFA that fit the system. Again though, can't argue with your concerns..

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    We just picked up a 'franchise' QB, there is a lot more to no depth than just not winning the superbowl one year. What happens if dbrick and another olineman go down early next year. Depth is important.

  13. #13
    backup spots can be filled with cheap FA's after June cuts.


    i'm not worried about having only 3 picks, especially since we didn't give up any picks in a much-better 2010 draft to make our moves.

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    Hess, your making a wild assumption that the Jets hit on their 2 draft picks.

    Every team thinks they killed it on draft day.

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    [QUOTE=Beerfish;3103225]We just picked up a 'franchise' QB, there is a lot more to no depth than just not winning the superbowl one year. What happens if dbrick and another olineman go down early next year. Depth is important.[/QUOTE]

    Absolutely but whoever we could have took in the 4th round, say a back up OT probably wouldn't/couldn't be a savoir either.

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    Normally I'd agree but these where really really bad picks for us. We trade up to 5 for a QB that would have gone 10 and pass on Crabtree for him. Stupid no matter how you say it. If you trade up it sould be for the BPA not a guy that is a mirror image of a guy you already have on your roaster. And we give up Ratliff here too which macks it 5 times worse because he could be a better QB. Then we could go for Gilbert in the 3rd but instead pass for a RB that would have likely fallen to us were we where. Stupid. We have no DEs on this team and we not only pass up on a good one but trade away the average one we already have. I hope everyone enjoys watching Thomas and Gholston playing DE next year. SAD it is just sad. Oakland and Denvers bad drafts have nothing no the crap we picked. F plane and simple this is an F draft. Worst on the boards.

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    [QUOTE=David Harris;3103240]Hess, your making a wild assumption that the Jets hit on their 2 draft picks.

    Every team thinks they killed it on draft day.[/QUOTE]

    But I am saying that by going from 4 to 2, the 2 that they actually picked are (possibly) a lot higher in quality than the possible 4 they could of had.

    Impossible to guess I know but it's quanity vs quality. If you like the 2 picks I wouldn't worry about the 2 traded away. When was the last time you saw a teams first 4 picks go on to stardom?

    Now, to your point are Sanchez and Greene going to become bigtime players? If so, you can't complain imo.

    You can actually go even further to say, A lot of people had Greene as a 2nd round prospect. So for all intensive purposes, you could say they only lost a 3rd and 4th.

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    [QUOTE=HessStation;3103243]Absolutely but whoever we could have took in the 4th round, say a back up OT probably wouldn't/couldn't be a savoir either.[/QUOTE]

    Leon and Rhodes were 4th rounders. I'm not totally kicking the jets for doing what they are doing but the more picks yoiu have the more gems you can find. If the Jets don't get a 4th for herm they don't get leon.

    If they don't get 2 safties in maddox and rhodes....

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    [QUOTE=HessStation;3103065]OK, take a look below. What I'm saying is every year, when it's all said and done, you're looking at 2-3 solid players you're getting on average. If you get 2 big time stars you've achieved your goal.

    If Sanchez and Greene are as good as most people think they will be, (including myself) the Jets just had an A+ draft a la Revis and Harris.

    I love both these players. This team finally has an identity. A winning skilled technician for a QB and a smash-mouth running attack and defense.


    1 6 Vernon Gholston LB Ohio State
    1 30 Dustin Keller TE Purdue
    4 113 Dwight Lowery CB San Jose State
    5 162 Erik Ainge QB Tennessee
    6 171 Marcus Henry WR Kansas
    7 211 Nate Garner OT Ark
    [B]2-3 players worth noting[/B]

    1 14 Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh
    2 47 David Harris ILB Michigan
    6 177 Jacob Bender T Nicholls State
    7 235 Chansi Stuckey WR Clemson
    [B]2 players woth noting[/B]

    1 4 D'Brickashaw Ferguson T Virginia
    1 29 Nick Mangold C Ohio State
    2 49 Kellen Clemens QB Oregon
    3 76 Anthony Schlegel LB Ohio State
    3 97 Eric Smith DB Michigan State
    4 103 Brad Smith WR Missouri
    4 117 Leon Washington RB Florida State
    5 150 Jason Pociask TE Wisconsin
    6 189 Drew Coleman CB Texas Christian
    7 220 Titus Adams DT Nebraska
    [B]3 players worth noting[/B]


    2 47 Mike Nugent K Ohio State
    2 57 Justin Miller CB Clemson
    3 88 Sione Pouha DT Utah
    4 123 Kerry Rhodes SS Louisville
    5 161 Andre Maddox DB North Carolina State
    6 182 Cedric Houston RB Tennessee
    6 198 Joel Dreessen TE Colorado State
    7 240 Harry Williams WR Tuskegee
    [B]1-2 players worth noting[/B]


    1 12 Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami (Fla.)
    3 76 Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
    4 108 Jerricho Cotchery WR North Carolina State
    4 132 Adrian Jones T Kansas
    5 143 Erik Coleman FS Washington State
    6 178 Marko Cavka T Sacramento State
    7 213 Darrell McClover LB Miami (Fla.)
    7 234 Trevor Johnson DE Nebraska
    7 235 Derrick Ward RB Ottawa (Kans.)
    7 236 Rashad Washington DB Kansas State
    [B]2 players worth noting[/B]

    1 4 Dewayne Robertson DT Kentucky
    2 53 Victor Hobson LB Michigan
    3 85 B.J. Askew FB Michigan
    5 140 Derek Pagel DB Iowa
    5 150 Matt Walters DE Miami (Fla.)
    6 200 Brooks Bollinger QB Wisconsin
    7 237 Dave Yovanovits T Temple
    [B]1 player worth noting[/B]

    1 22 Bryan Thomas DE Alabama-Birmingham
    2 57 Jon McGraw DB Kansas State
    3 88 Chris Baker TE Michigan State
    4 121 Alan Harper DT Fresno State
    5 154 Jonathan Goodwin G Michigan
    [B]1-2 players worth noting[/B]

    1 16 Santana Moss WR Miami (Fla.)
    2 49 LaMont Jordan RB Maryland
    3 79 Kareem McKenzie T Penn State
    4 101 Jamie Henderson DB Georgia
    7 206 James Reed DT Iowa State
    7 217 Tupe Peko G Michigan State
    [B]2-3 players worth noting[/B]

    1 12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
    1 13 John Abraham LB South Carolina
    1 18 Chad Pennington QB Marshall
    1 27 Anthony Becht TE West Virginia
    3 78 Laveranues Coles WR Florida State
    5 143 Windrell Hayes WR USC
    6 179 Tony Scott CB North Carolina State
    7 218 Richard Seals -- Utah
    [B]4 players worth noting[/B][/QUOTE]

    Can't disagree with you. But, that logic also points to the high possibility that 0-1 of our picks will work out this year.

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    [QUOTE=Dreamers;3103268]Normally I'd agree but these where really really bad picks for us. We trade up to 5 for a QB that would have gone 10 and pass on Crabtree for him. Stupid no matter how you say it. If you trade up it sould be for the BPA not a guy that is a mirror image of a guy you already have on your roaster. And we give up Ratliff here too which macks it 5 times worse because he could be a better QB. Then we could go for Gilbert in the 3rd but instead pass for a RB that would have likely fallen to us were we where. Stupid. We have no DEs on this team and we not only pass up on a good one but trade away the average one we already have. I hope everyone enjoys watching Thomas and Gholston playing DE next year. SAD it is just sad. Oakland and Denvers bad drafts have nothing no the crap we picked. F plane and simple this is an F draft. Worst on the boards.[/QUOTE]

    Good First Post!!!!

    Would somebody please ban this nose picker?

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