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    Pac Man vs Cotto for November....boxing fans take note

    Pacquiao okays Cotto showdown - Arum
    By Abac Cordero Updated June 16, 2009 12:00 AM

    MANILA, Philippines – Manny Pacquiao has given his promoter, Bob Arum, the go-signal to set him up for a fight with WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto on Nov. 14 in Las Vegas.

    “There’s no question he wants the fight. And he told me to put the fight together,” Arum said yesterday in an overseas conversation from his base in Las Vegas.

    Arum was with Pacquiao over the weekend in New York, gracing the Boxing Writers Association of America awards dinner and watching Cotto’s win over Josh Clottey.

    Pacquiao watched the fight at Madison Square Garden with his wife Jinkee, and sat beside Arum trying to size Cotto up. He must have felt he could handle the Puerto Rican so now it’s a go.

    Arum, who promotes both Pacquiao and Cotto, said they’re giving the 28-year-old, 5-foot-7 welterweight an extra month to recover from a very nasty cut he suffered against Clottey.

    Arum had penciled Oct. 17 as the date for Pacquiao’s next fight, following his May 2 destruction of Ricky Hatton, and now it’s been pushed to Nov. 14 or five months away from now.

    “I stayed in the same hotel where I put Manny and before I went to my room after the Cotto press conference I visited him and Jinkee in their suite and we talked about it,” said Arum.

    Pacquiao stayed at the swanky St. Regis Hotel on Fifth Avenue, and it was in his suite, which may cost close to $5,000 a night, where he gave Arum the go-signal for set up of the Cotto fight.

    “Now, it’s just the economics,” Arum told The STAR.

    Pacquiao, who was scheduled to be back in Manila late last night, should get the lion’s share against Cotto, who has never fought under 145 lb in his last eight fights, and losing only once, to Antonio Margarito.

    The lion’s share could mean 70 percent of everything. Pacquiao wants to fight Cotto at 142 lb but the latter said he can’t go lower than 145 lb. Now they must agree on something in between.

    Arum said Floyd Mayweather Jr. postponing his July 18 fight with Juan Manuel Marquez due to a rib injury sustained in training means the undefeated ex-pound-for-pound champion can’t fight Pacquiao this year.

    It was reported on the Internet that one more reason that led to the postponement was the poor ticket sales. With only 11 weeks before the fight, $300 tickets are still available by the 10s per fight fan.

    When Pacquiao fought Oscar dela Hoya last December and Ricky Hatton last May, the cheapest tickets were gone barely hours after the booths opened so many weeks before the fights.

    Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, said he wants the Mayweather fight next, and neither Cotto nor (Shane) Mosley, but now the three-time Trainer of the Year must change his thoughts.

    “Mayweather postponing the fight against Marquez means he can’t fight Manny this year. Now it’s just Cotto, Mosley or Edwin Valero. But the biggest fight out there for Manny is Cotto,” said Arum.

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    i see this mayweather injury report along the same lines as brady being probable every week. he's just ducking what would've been the match of the century. what a chump

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    ticket sales were slow--> real talk

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    Boxing is still a sport?

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    I don't see how Cotto could win that one...

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    was thinking before the clottey fight that cotto would be too much for pac but now i'm not sure. cotto didn't look that good to me.

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    U guys know I'm the biggest Cotto fan around and have been clamoring on this board for a Clottey match for two years, Clottey is no joke and Cotto would have been much more convincing in his win without that cut, with the cut he stood up and did what he had to do. The fight was a tremendous test coming off a horriffic beating (cheating) against Margarito and was a real test to whether this man had the heart to face adversity and he passed

    with that being said, Pac is the best in the business and I like Cotto's chances in certain scenarios, I think the scenario we are likely looking at is BS and Cotto should walk from teh fight. Basically Pac Man went up to 147 to face Oscar and dominated him, so logic says he can fight again at 147 and face Cotto. At that weight I think its a toss up, butttttttttt all of a sudden Pac is not willing to go up to 147 to face Cotto. Cotto can't make 140 because it was damn near killing him so what does Pac want???/ he wants to make Cotto cut to 142 and he wants a 70/30 split on the purse.

    To me thats complete BS, Pac should go to 147 and fight him on even terms but for Cotto to cut to a dangerous weight and take a small cut of the pie for the risk he is inducing to his body is unfair

    at 142 or 143 Cotto has no chance of even being competitive, at 147 it a toss up with the edge likely to Pac due to speed and angles

    The weight issue will be the make or break issue for the negotiations for the fight, if it falls through then I'd be looking for a Mosely-Pac man fight in the fall and a Cotto-Berto fight

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    Hey MBG - you're right! Only six posts on this thread before this response. Maybe it's because many, like myself, rarely come to this forum. Or perhaps it's because most of these guys, like Vincenzo Testaverde, just simply don't like boxing. Thay can more easily appreciate MMA than boxing because there is more action in most of the fights. HOWEVER, for those of us who love boxing - there is nothing like two skilled boxers getting it on!
    Last edited by simijet; 07-03-2009 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Bro Green View Post
    U guys know I'm the biggest Cotto fan around and have been clamoring on this board for a Clottey match for two years, Clottey is no joke and Cotto would have been much more convincing in his win without that cut, with the cut he stood up and did what he had to do. The fight was a tremendous test coming off a horriffic beating (cheating) against Margarito and was a real test to whether this man had the heart to face adversity and he passed

    with that being said, Pac is the best in the business and I like Cotto's chances in certain scenarios, I think the scenario we are likely looking at is BS and Cotto should walk from teh fight. Basically Pac Man went up to 147 to face Oscar and dominated him, so logic says he can fight again at 147 and face Cotto. At that weight I think its a toss up, butttttttttt all of a sudden Pac is not willing to go up to 147 to face Cotto. Cotto can't make 140 because it was damn near killing him so what does Pac want???/ he wants to make Cotto cut to 142 and he wants a 70/30 split on the purse.

    To me thats complete BS, Pac should go to 147 and fight him on even terms but for Cotto to cut to a dangerous weight and take a small cut of the pie for the risk he is inducing to his body is unfair

    at 142 or 143 Cotto has no chance of even being competitive, at 147 it a toss up with the edge likely to Pac due to speed and angles

    The weight issue will be the make or break issue for the negotiations for the fight, if it falls through then I'd be looking for a Mosely-Pac man fight in the fall and a Cotto-Berto fight
    Remember, Pac won his first title at 112lb, so any weight over 140 is still an incredible feat.

    The difference in this fight will be Freddie Roach, who is simply the best trainer in the world and will have Pac ready for Cotto who in my opinion is pretty one dimensional and will have trouble against Pacs varied attack and ability to make adjustments in a fight....I have yet to see Cotto make serious adjustments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyeffinjetsfan View Post
    Remember, Pac won his first title at 112lb, so any weight over 140 is still an incredible feat.

    The difference in this fight will be Freddie Roach, who is simply the best trainer in the world and will have Pac ready for Cotto who in my opinion is pretty one dimensional and will have trouble against Pacs varied attack and ability to make adjustments in a fight....I have yet to see Cotto make serious adjustments.


    My question to you is, "will Cotto have to?" I believe he has enough speed and power to negate anything Pacquiao brings to the table.

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