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    Matt Leinart's Stunning Freefall Continues

    [url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/around_the_nfl/post/Leinart-sinking-?urn=nfl,180260[/url]

    Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:07 pm EDT

    Leinart sinking?

    By Jason Cole

    FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. - Will Matt Leinart's(notes) freefall continue?

    A year ago, the 2006 first-round pick and Heisman Trophy winner was the No. 1 quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals going into training camp before he was beaten out for the job by veteran Kurt Warner(notes).

    With Warner fresh off having led the Cardinals to their first Super Bowl, Leinart (at right) is not even competing for the No. 1 job anymore. But he is still competing. Arizona brought back veteran backup Brian St. Pierre(notes) and promised him a chance to compete with Leinart for the No. 2 job.

    That's stunning considering that the 29-year-old St. Pierre has thrown all of one pass in six years. St. Pierre was a fifth-round draft pick by Pittsburgh in 2003. While some people believe the promise to St. Pierre by coach Ken Whisenhunt was an empty ploy, two sources indicated that the threat is very real for Leinart and that he needs to improve his game and show better mental toughness.

    Both sources also rolled their eyes when asked about Leinart's offseason MMA training, which was advertised as a way to improve Leinart's toughness.

    As for Leinart, he took the news in stride.

    "Everybody has to compete for a job out there," Leinart said. "I'm not worried about it. I'm going to keep doing my thing."

    Photo courtesy of Getty Images

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    Sar fail

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    Hmmmm lets trade for him and give up Shanchez, cause he played more than one year in College!!!!!!:D

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    I've heard good things about Leinart from Cardinal fans...but many teams' fans seem to enjoy looking for the upside in their young players that haven't broken out yet...we, of course, prefer to trash ours mercilessly until they show something unless they were drafted high or we hate the guy starting over them even more.

    I've never been a fan of Leinart though. He was overrated as all hell as a prospect.

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    [QUOTE=Guido Monzino;3197014]Sar fail[/QUOTE]
    :yes:

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    my feelings exactly..... this guy should already be considered a draft bust.... :yes:

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    [QUOTE=neevsmazda07;3197030]my feelings exactly..... this guy should already be considered a draft bust.... :yes:[/QUOTE]

    I would put the odds in the neighborhood of 50-50 that he turns out better than Sanchez. And I happen to like Sanchez.

    This is a non-story.

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    [QUOTE=seanmac31;3197034]I would put the odds in the neighborhood of 50-50 that he turns out better than Sanchez. And I happen to like Sanchez.

    This is a non-story.[/QUOTE]

    You've always liked Leinart. IIRC, you were in favor of trading for him as opposed to drafting Sanchez, no?

    I happen to agree with you in that there is a real chance that Leinart can still be a decent starting professional QB.

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    I think he can be too...what with 3 really good WR's on the roster, and at least 2 of them should be on the roster when Warner does retire...a good O-line...possibly a running game...

    I didn't even read the article...he's not going to lose the #2 spot to Brian Bumblefcuk....even if he was an overrated dbag.

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    [QUOTE=crasherino;3197039]You've always liked Leinart. IIRC, you were in favor of trading for him as opposed to drafting Sanchez, no?

    I happen to agree with you in that there is a real chance that Leinart can still be a decent starting professional QB.[/QUOTE]

    I was. I'm perfectly happy with Sanchez, but it's kind of comic watching people hold him up on a pedestal while knocking Leinart over absolutely nothing. Leinart ripped up the best defense in the league as a rookie. We're going nuts because Sanchez is going 1-of-4 in training camp. (But he's throwing the deep comeback!) People need to get a grip.

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    [QUOTE=seanmac31;3197034]I would put the odds in the neighborhood of 50-50 that he turns out better than Sanchez. And I happen to like Sanchez.

    This is a non-story.[/QUOTE]

    So is that what your computer told you after you plugged in all the numbers and variables?

    I'm kidding, seriously though, you remind me of the mad scientist with your love for numbers, etc! You know, like our coach, -but not really.;)

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    [QUOTE=seanmac31;3197046]I was. I'm perfectly happy with Sanchez, but it's kind of comic watching people hold him up on a pedestal while knocking Leinart over absolutely nothing. Leinart ripped up the best defense in the league as a rookie. We're going nuts because Sanchez is going 1-of-4 in training camp. (But he's throwing the deep comeback!) People need to get a grip.[/QUOTE]

    Of course.


    It's the 1st week....... Loooooooooong way to go-

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    Whoa whoa whoa seaman...lets not go overboard there...you almost sounded like you might HATE Mark Sanchez.

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    As for Sanchez... even more so- 1st week / he's a rookie.


    Just common sense;

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    I always liked Mat, i wis him the best in the future and hope he can one day be a starter. But i doubt it ever happens.

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    [QUOTE=seanmac31;3197046]I was. I'm perfectly happy with Sanchez, but it's kind of comic watching people hold him up on a pedestal while knocking Leinart over absolutely nothing. Leinart ripped up the best defense in the league as a rookie. We're going nuts because Sanchez is going 1-of-4 in training camp. (But he's throwing the deep comeback!) People need to get a grip.[/QUOTE]

    To be fair, Vince Young looked good as a rookie. One of the issues with Leinart is the perception that he isn't work hard or doesn't care enough. It's unclear whether it's warranted, but it wasn't only Warner's fantastic play that got him the job last year (in fact he didn't throw a TD pass during the pre-season), it was the fact that Leinart totally self-destructed in the all-important game 3 pre-season start, going pitiful 4-12 with 3 INTs with the starters against the Raiders.

    I agree that the idea that Sanchez will be a 20TD, 10 INT qb his first season is a total pipe dream. The bottom line is that Leinart has regressed, perhaps it's injury related, maybe it's not.

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    [QUOTE=Chica me Tipo;3197052]Whoa whoa whoa seaman...lets not go overboard there...you almost sounded like you might HATE Mark Sanchez.[/QUOTE]

    Why would I HATE any of our players? They're good people. May the best win.


    Simple as that.


    My expectations are in check regarding our rook, etc. ;

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    Gotta see Mark with the 1st team to even evaluate a little. I know he'll be good though. No doubt in my mind. So I'm very confident in him. And that's always been my opinion. You may recall b4 the draft how highly I think of him. He was the guy. No ifs and or buts. -As far as I'm concerned.

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    [QUOTE=Guido Monzino;3197014]Sar fail[/QUOTE]
    lol, the #2 post is about SAR I.

    SAR [I]wants[/I] a Franchise QB. Now that we have one, SAR is following through and offering his body to the Franchize. I think he's acting like a model Jets fan, if you ask me.


    SAR isn't the one in the wrong, here in '09. :jets17

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    [QUOTE=THE_SOOTHSAYER;3197008][url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/around_the_nfl/post/Leinart-sinking-?urn=nfl,180260[/url]

    Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:07 pm EDT

    Leinart sinking?

    By Jason Cole

    FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. - Will Matt Leinart's(notes) freefall continue?

    A year ago, the 2006 first-round pick and Heisman Trophy winner was the No. 1 quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals going into training camp before he was beaten out for the job by veteran Kurt Warner(notes).

    With Warner fresh off having led the Cardinals to their first Super Bowl, Leinart (at right) is not even competing for the No. 1 job anymore. But he is still competing. Arizona brought back veteran backup Brian St. Pierre(notes) and promised him a chance to compete with Leinart for the No. 2 job.

    That's stunning considering that the 29-year-old St. Pierre has thrown all of one pass in six years. St. Pierre was a fifth-round draft pick by Pittsburgh in 2003. While some people believe the promise to St. Pierre by coach Ken Whisenhunt was an empty ploy, two sources indicated that the threat is very real for Leinart and that he needs to improve his game and show better mental toughness.

    Both sources also rolled their eyes when asked about Leinart's offseason MMA training, which was advertised as a way to improve Leinart's toughness.

    As for Leinart, he took the news in stride.

    "Everybody has to compete for a job out there," Leinart said. "I'm not worried about it. I'm going to keep doing my thing."

    Photo courtesy of Getty Images[/QUOTE]how much money did this guy lose by staying in college that extra year. Hed probably still be riding the pine but his bank account would be doubled

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