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    Le Hand of God (France vs. Ireland)

    What a brutal way for Ireland to be knocked out. Apparently, there is a precedent to replay a match on a crucial officiating error. Even the French media is disgusted with the result. And as for those poor Swiss referees, they have been crucified in their own country. FIFA has no comment as of yet. Is it possible they will play a rematch?

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    Depends if the French agree - it generally doesn't happen otherwise, and even if the French agree I'm not sure FIFA will ok it.

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    I'm surprised France won...without Zidane, that team is unbearable to watch.


    (I know nothing of soccer. I just thought Zidane was a magician on the field [or pitch or whatever yall call it]).

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    Press is blasting the team for playing like crap, and getting through on a blatant referee mistake. If we’d dominated the whole game, things would maybe be different.

    I’ve never heard of a game being replayed because of an officiating error. Wenger once asked for game to be replayed because his team had continued to play and scored while an opponent was down and the other team was asking for them to kick it out of bounds. I would actually be OK with it. I seriously doubt the game will be replayed though. FIFA have no balls. If they did, they’d suspend Henry for 4 games and make him miss the group stages of the WC or something like that.

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    The biggest problem with soccer reffing is there is only one official on the field and thats just not enough. It should be like in basketball where there are multiple refs and they split up what section of the playing area they look at according to established procedures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Boru View Post
    The biggest problem with soccer reffing is there is only one official on the field and thats just not enough. It should be like in basketball where there are multiple refs and they split up what section of the playing area they look at according to established procedures.
    They've talked about that as well, having refs in the penalty box to help out.

    The biggest argument the naysayers use against adding refs or video replays is inferior divisions (2,3,4..) etc, won't have it. So it's unfair.

    FIFA has no balls, period. They'll wait till a WC Final is botched, a ref killed and mass mayhem in the stands.

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    Irish are calling it The Hand of Frog.



    I admit, I LOL'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaoulDuke View Post
    They've talked about that as well, having refs in the penalty box to help out.

    The biggest argument the naysayers use against adding refs or video replays is inferior divisions (2,3,4..) etc, won't have it. So it's unfair.

    FIFA has no balls, period. They'll wait till a WC Final is botched, a ref killed and mass mayhem in the stands.
    I'm old enough to remember the NFL before vid replay and I know that adding replay did not make a single thing better.

    But not adding refs because of the lower divisions does not make sense.

    FIFA should grow a pair, they control the World Cup and so no one will screw with them because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Boru View Post
    I'm old enough to remember the NFL before vid replay and I know that adding replay did not make a single thing better.
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    So am I, but I don't agree. It doesn't eliminate mistakes completely, but you can't say it doesn't help. If it didn't there would never be any calls overruled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaoulDuke View Post
    Iíve never heard of a game being replayed because of an officiating error. .
    Neither have I. FIFA's stance is appalingly stupid and established they simply say "referee mistakes are a part of the game.

    I know idiotic but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Turk View Post
    Neither have I. FIFA's stance is appalingly stupid and established they simply say "referee mistakes are a part of the game.

    I know idiotic but true.
    I honestly think they are just scared. Football, our version, around the globe fires up passions like no other sport I can think of. Overrule a TD in the SB, no problem. Overrule a goal in the Algeria/Egypt match, and there is a serious safety issue in the stands and in cities everywhere.

    Personally, I think it's time. Rugby was an amateur sport played by bartenders only ten years ago. THEY have video review.

    Wake up.

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    Sorry RD but some of these are really funny:















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    Any video of this handball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big L View Post
    Any video of this handball?
    1 offsides and a handball

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjkop6VY4c

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    http://www.cnn.com/2009/SPORT/footba...wen/index.html

    London, England (CNN) -- The governing body of world football, FIFA, has turned down the request from the Irish Football Association (FAI) to replay their deciding World Cup play-off game against France.

    The controversial match, that was played on Wednesday, has caused a diplomatic storm after French forward Thierry Henry admitted to illegally using his hand to set-up the goal that gave his team a 2-1 aggregate victory to seal qualification to the tournament.

    But despite a letter sent to FIFA by the FAI, and calls from both the Irish prime minister Brian Cowen and Irish justice minister Dermot Ahern for the game to be replayed, the sport's organizing body has refused the request.

    In a statement on their official Web site FIFA stated: "The result of the match cannot be changed and the match cannot be replayed. As is clearly mentioned in the Laws of the Game, during matches, decisions are taken by the referee and these decisions are final."

    Irish football officials lodged an official complaint with FIFA on Thursday and sent a letter to the French Football Federation (FFF) in a bid to get the game reconvened. The world's worst football injustices

    "The governing body of world football have to step up to the plate and accede to our call for a replay," FAI chief executive John Delaney told reporters.

    The FAI pointed to a precedent set in 2005 when a World Cup qualifier between Uzbekistan and Bahrain was replayed after the referee was found to have committed a technical error in the application of the laws of the game.

    But a FIFA spokesman said the precedent did not apply because the referee in the match "saw the incident in question and simply failed to apply the proper rules".


    Video: Irish MP demands football rematch

    Gallery: Henry breaks Irish hearts Irish prime minister Cowen raised the issue with French president Nicolas Sarkozy at a European Union (EU) summit in Brussels, where the two leaders were meeting to vote for the next president of Europe.

    Cowen told the Irish Independent newspaper: "I didn't ask for a replay. I said, you know: 'What do you think?' and he said: 'Look, I understand totally the sense of disappointment that you feel about the game. I'm not trying to mix politics and sport in this respect. We just had a chat. [But] it's not going to be resolved by he and I."

    Mr Sarkozy, however, said he did not want to get involved: "I said to Brian Cowen, who is a friend of mine as you know, that I was sorry for them and how I was struck by the talent and vigor of the Irish team.

    "Now do not ask me to stand in for the referee of the game or the football decision -- be they in France or in Europe," he said.

    "What will be done will be done. But leave me out of it, please. And to be perfectly frank with you that is the sort of answer I want to give," he added.

    Despite Sarkozy's comments, French finance minister Christine Lagarde said she supported moves for a replay.


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    "I think it's very sad. I'm of course very happy that the French team will play in the World Cup, but I find it very sad that it did qualify with... you know... an act of cheating," she told RTL radio station.

    The game between France and Ireland was one of six play offs played on Wednesday which decided the final 32 teams heading South Africa in 2010.

    Video replays showed Henry used his hand to stop the ball going out of play in extra-time, before he passed to William Gallas who booked his nation's place with a headed goal.

    The draw for next year's finals is due to be made in Cape Town on December 4.

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    F*cking bullsh*t

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaoulDuke View Post
    Man, that was egregious. An obvious offsides and a blatant handball and nary a call on either. Talk about horrendous officiating.

    If I was a mick hooligan I'd be lighting molotov cocktails right at that moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauliec View Post
    Man, that was egregious. An obvious offsides and a blatant handball and nary a call on either. Talk about horrendous officiating.

    If I was a mick hooligan I'd be lighting molotov cocktails right at that moment.
    To be honest, Henry’s getting blasted around the globe as a cheater, but it’s not very fair. Zillions of controversial goals have been scored, with a culprit knowing he’s “cheated”. To expect him to go see the ref and admit he handled the ball with his hand is hypocritical.

    Maybe he should have downplayed his celebration, but his hand was a normal reflex for any attacker in his position. Unfortunately we scored, and it ultimately eliminated Ireland.

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    En englais, s'il vous plait?

    Wow, that's pretty blatant hands.

    If the French hadn't scored that goal, and the regulation time had ended with IRL 1-0, then what would have happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big L View Post
    En englais, s'il vous plait?

    Wow, that's pretty blatant hands.

    If the French hadn't scored that goal, and the regulation time had ended with IRL 1-0, then what would have happened?
    penalty kicks with the winner headed to South Africa. The handball was scored in OT. This was the 2nd match in a 2 game series. Futbol has a very different structure for a series than Americans are used to.
    Last edited by RoadFan; 11-20-2009 at 01:04 PM.

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