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    What is your "End of the innocence" moment?

    I was just talking to someone about this and thought it might be an interesting topic since we have posters of all ages.

    When was your "End of the innocence" moment, when you realized what a sucky place this world can be or how fleeting life is?

    For me, it was prolly, ironically, this Monday Night Football Patriots game....

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gcdz1IRVoM[/url]


    I was 17 and really hadnt lost anyone due to death...I was a huge Beatle fan, a bigger Lennon fan, a budding guitarist...a long haired, introspective book worm....this was a huge punch in the gut for me, the randomness of it, the finality, the realization that one human being could so cavalierly extinguish the life of another.

    I stumbled into a freezing Central Park for the memorial about a week later, into a sea 100,000 folks deep, folks consumed with grief and disbelief... and emerged a very different person, any of the child left in me gone for good.


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    classic Cossell there....


    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNfIiXHiwLc&feature=PlayList&p=4D5E13DE2CB31678&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4[/url]

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    I was one of those kids that wanted to be an astronaut more than anything in the world. Tons of "space" related toys, rocket ship wallpaper/bedding, and more. Everyone in my family would ask me what I wanted to be when I grew up and I'd scream "astronaut" all the time. <sigh> That all changed when I was in 1st grade and watched the Challenger explode on live television. My mother still says the most heart-breaking look she's ever seen on anyone's face was when I came home that day.

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    [QUOTE=32green;3383093]I was just talking to someone about this and thought it might be an interesting topic since we have posters of all ages.

    When was your "End of the innocence" moment, when you realized what a sucky place this world can be or how fleeting life is?

    For me, it was prolly, ironically, this Monday Night Football Patriots game....

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gcdz1IRVoM[/url]


    I was 17 and really hadnt lost anyone due to death...I was a huge Beatle fan, a bigger Lennon fan, a budding guitarist...a long haired, introspective book worm....this was a huge punch in the gut for me, the randomness of it, the finality, the realization that one human being could so cavalierly extinguish the life of another.

    I stumbled into a freezing Central Park for the memorial about a week later, into a sea 100,000 folks deep, folks consumed with grief and disbelief... and emerged a very different person, any of the child left in me gone for good.


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    My friend and one of his kids fell through ice and drowned. Changed me forever. I realized one second you can be doing something great and next second you are in frozen water dying.

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    I remember sitting at lunch during the Keystone basketball camp at Gettysburg College and hearing this announcement.

    [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS0q-Gfo3sA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS0q-Gfo3sA[/URL]

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    Best friend and next door neighbor dying of a brain tumor at age 13. Very difficult to deal with at such a young age. Very first true friend and wonderfully bright human being. Would have switched places with him if given the chance. To see a young child so full of life to be virtually bed ridden for two years was beyond comprehension to me. Reduced to squeezing hands to answer yes or no. Very mad at the world, God, adults for not being upfront with the seriousness of his condition, really just everything all at once was too much. After sharing so much of your early life and memories together and virtually having that erased was/is very difficult to deal with.

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    I'm older than most on this board, so the moment for me came on a Fall Friday afternoon in 2nd grade in Catholic school when the principal suddenly interruped our class by announcing on the intercom system that the President of the United States had been killed. She said that buses would be arriving to take us home (early) and that we were to pray for the soul of our dead president while we were on the bus.

    When I got home I ran inside and told my mother what had happened, but of course she knew already. Everyone was sad, the television had pre-empted all my favorite afternoon shows, and I started hearing about a town named Dallas. As soon as I learned that Dallas was in Texas, my 6-year-old brain reasoned that our president must have been gunned down in a shoot-out on a dusty street, because that's the way people died in Texas - at least on t.v.

    I finally started to realize what it all meant when I saw the caisson, the riderless horse, and John-John (about my age) saluting his dead father's coffin while watching on my family's black and white t.v.

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    September 11, no question about it. I was just starting senior year of high school, arguably the best year of your childhood. You're the oldest in school, you're thinking about colleges, you get your driver's license -- it's a great year. Then, one morning, I'm happily munching on a porkroll egg & cheese breakfast sandwich in the cafeteria, and our principle comes on the loudspeaker and tells us what's going on. Everyone was very scared in a hushed way. Shocked silence ensued for the rest of the day. When I left school, I could smell burning in the air.

    The next day, I found out one of my classmates lost his mother in the towers. I never knew she worked for Cantor Fitzgerald until then.

    September 11, 2001 didn't necessarily change me in a life-altering way, but it definitely readjusted my focus and my understanding of the world. I went from blissfully happy to cautiously optimistic in a few hours.

    Actually, it was this event that really sparked my interest in domestic and international politics, so maybe it was life-altering.
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    [QUOTE=Jets Things;3383114]I was one of those kids that wanted to be an astronaut more than anything in the world. Tons of "space" related toys, rocket ship wallpaper/bedding, and more. Everyone in my family would ask me what I wanted to be when I grew up and I'd scream "astronaut" all the time. <sigh> That all changed when I was in 1st grade and watched the Challenger explode on live television. My mother still says the most heart-breaking look she's ever seen on anyone's face was when I came home that day.[/QUOTE]

    Back in the 60s, I was a space junkie. I watched all the launches and associated coverage, even if it was past my bedtime on a school night. I remember talking into my reel-to-reel tape recorder, making believe I was one of the correspondents reporting from Mission Control. Like you watching the Challenger tragedy, I had a similar moment when astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee--the team scheduled for Apollo I--burned to death during a test of their command module. The engineering on that space craft, and many other design decisions, was a real cluster f**k. RIP, guys.

    [URL=http://img245.imageshack.us/i/apollo1crew.gif/][IMG]http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9615/apollo1crew.gif[/IMG][/URL]

    [URL=http://img245.imageshack.us/i/ap1burned.jpg/][IMG]http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6092/ap1burned.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    I can also vaguely remember a TV set being wheeled into my kindergarten classroom as crying teachers watched coverage of President Kennedy's assassination. Of course, we also had the nightly body counts--with related horror-filled images--during the Vietnam War. All of these events still effect me.

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_1[/url]
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    [QUOTE=Borgoguy;3383147]

    I can also vaguely remember a TV set being wheeled into my kindergarten classroom as crying teachers watched coverage of President Kennedy's assassination. Of course, we also had the nightly body counts--with related horror filled images--during the Vietnam War. All of these events still affect me.

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_1[/url][/QUOTE]

    go to YouTube and search "The President has been shot"...fascinating stuff...

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3383149]go to YouTube and search "The President has been shot"...fascinating stuff...[/QUOTE]

    Thank you. Yeah, I've looked at most of the footage before. Seeing the black & white images always takes me back to those days. Look at how differently TV was broadcast.

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtXfZs0-Bn0[/url]

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    [QUOTE=Borgoguy;3383164]Thank you. Yeah, I've looked at most of the footage before. Seeing the black & white images always takes me back to those days. Look at how differently TV was broadcast.

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtXfZs0-Bn0[/url][/QUOTE]

    the CBS coverage is okay- check out the ABC coverage....some guy posts it in parts and there's about 22 parts for most of the stations....

    also there is some amazing audio of the event....

    [url]http://www.jfk-assassination.de/media/audio/radio.php[/url]

    click on the third & fourth link.....

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    When I was 18, and the Police knocked on our door to inform us they had found my Fathers body.

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3383177]the CBS coverage is okay- check out the ABC coverage....some guy posts it in parts and there's about 22 parts for most of the stations....

    also there is some amazing audio of the event....

    [url]http://www.jfk-assassination.de/media/audio/radio.php[/url]

    click on the third & fourth link.....[/QUOTE]

    Thanks for those sound bites. The sirens going off in the background (fourth one) as he reports is chilling.

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    [QUOTE=Borgoguy;3383195]Thanks for those sound bites. The sirens going off in the background (fourth one) as he reports is chilling.[/QUOTE]

    Some channel has tons of video and audio about the Kennedy assasanation.
    One of the most chilling things I heard was an audio only tape of a Boston Symphony Orchestra matinee that day. The music stopped and the conductor in a German accent announced to the crowd that the President had been assassinated. A collective gasp went up, and you heard everyone running out of the concert hall.

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    [QUOTE=Borgoguy;3383164]Thank you. Yeah, I've looked at most of the footage before. Seeing the black & white images always takes me back to those days. Look at how differently TV was broadcast.

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtXfZs0-Bn0[/url][/QUOTE]

    Oh, man does that bring back some memories! I've seen short clips before but never including the actual soap opera show and commercials. As you noted, look at how differently t.v. treats news today. The president is shot and all the t.v. viewers get is a voice with a minute or two giving the barest of details -- then it's back to As the World Turns! Incredible.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;3383191]When I was 18, and the Police knocked on our door to inform us they had found my Fathers body.[/QUOTE]

    Whoa- you can't just drop that bomb and walk away! :eek:

    Seriously? What happened?

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    The day I watched my mother pass away in front of me after a risky/last resort surgery. (She had ovarian cancer) I was 16 years old.
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    When I was 10 our house burned down. I remembered thinking it was the type of thing I thought only happened to other people.

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