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    Any possibility we win and go to new england

    Is there any Scenario that we win a sunday and head to new england instead of cincy?

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    It's possible but we need ne to lose and thAn every scenerio to go perfectly with all these teams to lose to play ne

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    No. If we win we're playing Cincy, because we'll automatically be the 5 seed and a Cincy loss means they're automatically the 4 seed.

    The only way we play NE is if we tie and a ton of other things fall in our favor for us to make it as the six seed.

    Or if we both advance to the AFC Championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYJ89 View Post
    It's possible but we need ne to lose and thAn every scenerio to go perfectly with all these teams to lose to play ne
    No, it's not possible. If we lose we are eliminated mathematically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    No, it's not possible. If we lose we are eliminated mathematically.
    According to the bengals site there is one senario where the bengals would pass the patriots.

    "Anyway, to sum up, if both lose the following must happen for the Bengals to get the #3 seed....

    This 3 must happen...

    Steelers beat the Dolphins
    Browns beat the Jags
    Colts beat Bills

    AND 4 of the 5 happens....

    Ravens beat the Raiders
    Saints beat the Panthers
    Packers beat Cardinals
    Chiefs beat Broncos"

    not sure if that is true or not

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    I'm pretty sure if both New England and Cincy lose, Cincy may lose out on the tiebreaker. Actually not so pretty sure.

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    yes, a small chance, if HOU also wins and various other games change the strength of victory tie breaker between NE and CIN

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    if we win, we play cincy

    if we lose, we watch the teams that do play on television

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    No. If we win we're playing Cincy, because we'll automatically be the 5 seed and a Cincy loss means they're automatically the 4 seed.

    The only way we play NE is if we tie and a ton of other things fall in our favor for us to make it as the six seed.

    Or if we both advance to the AFC Championship.
    Then I guess that's what we'll have to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Ryan View Post
    yes, a small chance, if HOU also wins and various other games change the strength of victory tie breaker between NE and CIN
    Cincy can't change the strength of victory tie breaker without beating us, so like I said, it's mathematically impossible.

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    Since I'm bored waiting to head out for the night, I'll sum it up:

    First Tiebreaker: Head to head. They didn't play, so this doesn't matter.

    Second Tiebreaker: Conference Record. Both currently have the same conference record. Since we are eliminated with a loss, and are guaranteed the 5 seed with a win, we have to assume Cincy loses. If the Pats lose, they're still tied.

    Third Tiebreaker: Common games. Common games are as follows: Jets, Ravens, Broncos, Texans. Pats are 2-2 in these games, with the Texans still to go. Bengals are 2-2 in these games, with the Jets still to go. Again, assuming they both lose to keep the scenario alive, they're again tied.

    Fourth Tiebreaker: Strength of victory. Pats are +149 Bengals are +51. Since the Bengals would need to beat us (by like 100 points) it's impossible for them to win this tiebreaker.

    In summary -- the only way for the Bengals to get the three seed is to beat us and for the Pats to lose. A loss automatically knocks us out, so there is no way we play the Pats in round one, except for the extremely unlikely scenario that we TIE the Bengals, the Pats win, and two of the following three lose: Ravens, Steelers, and Broncos. This way we are the six seed and Pats are three. But as you can see, this is highly unlikely.

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    Well since, as some of our favorite chowd trolls have stated previously, the Pats* will be One and Done in the playoffs, so no. We can't knock them out of it, unfortunately.

    But I think maybe they win 1 game, at home, stealing wiretapped defensive signals. A little odd that they look like an entirely different team when they have to leave home.

    Once a cheater always a cheater.

    As soon as they play away they are toast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman Harris View Post
    Well since, as some of our favorite chowd trolls have stated previously, the Pats* will be One and Done in the playoffs, so no. We can't knock them out of it, unfortunately.

    But I think maybe they win 1 game, at home, stealing wiretapped defensive signals. A little odd that they look like an entirely different team when they have to leave home.

    Once a cheater always a cheater.

    As soon as they play away they are toast.



    Only this year has there been road problems,and there is absolutely no way the jets take out the pats if they meet up,ny has no qb or receivers to worry about imo

    And the jets dont belong in the playoffs after that cowardly lay-down by indy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawisdamagedgoods View Post
    Only this year has there been road problems,and there is absolutely no way the jets take out the pats if they meet up,ny has no qb or receivers to worry about imo

    And the jets dont belong in the playoffs after that cowardly lay-down by indy.
    Yeah, but the Patriots suck. So you have to factor that into the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario View Post
    According to the bengals site there is one senario where the bengals would pass the patriots.

    "Anyway, to sum up, if both lose the following must happen for the Bengals to get the #3 seed....

    This 3 must happen...

    Steelers beat the Dolphins
    Browns beat the Jags
    Colts beat Bills

    AND 4 of the 5 happens....

    Ravens beat the Raiders
    Saints beat the Panthers
    Packers beat Cardinals
    Chiefs beat Broncos"

    not sure if that is true or not
    Saints / Packes / Panthers / Cardinals standings have no implications whatsoever for the AFC playoff seedings. So definitely not true.

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    unfortunately someone else will provide the joy and happiness to all NFL fans of knocking the cheating douchebags out of the playoffs in their first postseason game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Since I'm bored waiting to head out for the night, I'll sum it up:

    First Tiebreaker: Head to head. They didn't play, so this doesn't matter.

    Second Tiebreaker: Conference Record. Both currently have the same conference record. Since we are eliminated with a loss, and are guaranteed the 5 seed with a win, we have to assume Cincy loses. If the Pats lose, they're still tied.

    Third Tiebreaker: Common games. Common games are as follows: Jets, Ravens, Broncos, Texans. Pats are 2-2 in these games, with the Texans still to go. Bengals are 2-2 in these games, with the Jets still to go. Again, assuming they both lose to keep the scenario alive, they're again tied.

    Fourth Tiebreaker: Strength of victory. Pats are +149 Bengals are +51. Since the Bengals would need to beat us (by like 100 points) it's impossible for them to win this tiebreaker.

    In summary -- the only way for the Bengals to get the three seed is to beat us and for the Pats to lose. A loss automatically knocks us out, so there is no way we play the Pats in round one, except for the extremely unlikely scenario that we TIE the Bengals, the Pats win, and two of the following three lose: Ravens, Steelers, and Broncos. This way we are the six seed and Pats are three. But as you can see, this is highly unlikely.
    That's not what strength of victory is, strength of victory is the aggregate number of wins of the teams you have beaten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesR View Post
    Saints / Packes / Panthers / Cardinals standings have no implications whatsoever for the AFC playoff seedings. So definitely not true.
    This post is incorrect.

    Strenght of victory tiebreaker includes all of the wins of both teams. Bengals have beaten the Packers and the Patriots have beaten the Panthers.

    I'm not going to do the math, but I am going to assume the post previously is correct about all those games having to happen

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    Assuming both the Pats and Bengals lose the Pats would have 66 wins as strength of victory : Bills (5)+ Falcons (8) + Ravens (8) + Titans (7) + Bucs (3) + Dolphins (7) + Jets (9)* assuming a win+ Panthers (7) + Bills (5)+ Jags (7)

    Bengals have 61: Packers (10) + Steelers * 2 (16) + Browns * 2 (8) + Ravens *2 (16) + Bears (6) + Lions (2) + Chiefs (3)


    Week 17 games that have an effect
    Indianapolis at Buffalo 1:00 PM- Bills win +2 for Pats, Indy wins 0
    Jacksonville at Cleveland 1:00 PM , Cleveland win +2 for Bengals, Jags win +1 for Pats
    Pittsburgh at Miami 1:00 PM -Pitt win +2 for Bengals, Miami win +1 for Pats
    Atlanta at Tampa Bay 1:00 PM -Automatic +1 for Pats (no net effect)
    New Orleans at Carolina 1:00 PM -Car win +1 for Pats
    Chicago at Detroit 1:00 PM-Automatic +1 for Bengals (no net effect)
    Baltimore at Oakland 4:15 PM-Ravens win +2 for Bengals
    Green Bay at Arizona 4:15 PM - GB win +1 for Bengals
    Tennessee at Seattle 4:15 PM -Ten win +1 for Pats
    Kansas City at Denver 4:15 PM -KC win +1 for Bengals

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    For all of those who love tiebreaker scenarios and for dealing with strength of victory, here are scenarios for the Bengals to finish as the third seed if they remain tied with New England. The scenarios are courtesy of the Elias Sports Bureau:

    If the Bengals and Patriots both lose:
    Cleveland must beat Jacksonville
    Pittsburgh must beat Miami
    Indianapolis must beat Buffalo

    And any of the following four: Baltimore beats Oakland, Green Bay beats Arizona, Kansas City beats Denver, New Orleans beats Carolina, Seattle beats Tennessee
    Last edited by IM3; 01-01-2010 at 12:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IM3 View Post
    Assuming both the Pats and Bengals lose the Pats would have 66 wins as strength of victory : Bills (5)+ Falcons (8) + Ravens (8) + Titans (7) + Bucs (3) + Dolphins (7) + Jets (9)* assuming a win+ Panthers (7) + Bills (5)+ Jags (7)

    Bengals have 61: Packers (10) + Steelers * 2 (16) + Browns * 2 (8) + Ravens *2 (16) + Bears (6) + Lions (2) + Chiefs (3)


    Week 17 games that have an effect
    Indianapolis at Buffalo 1:00 PM- Bills win +2 for Pats, Indy wins 0
    Jacksonville at Cleveland 1:00 PM , Cleveland win +2 for Bengals, Jags win +1 for Pats
    Pittsburgh at Miami 1:00 PM -Pitt win +2 for Bengals, Miami win +1 for Pats
    Atlanta at Tampa Bay 1:00 PM -Automatic +1 for Pats (no net effect)
    New Orleans at Carolina 1:00 PM -Car win +1 for Pats
    Chicago at Detroit 1:00 PM-Automatic +1 for Bengals (no net effect)
    Baltimore at Oakland 4:15 PM-Ravens win +2 for Bengals
    Green Bay at Arizona 4:15 PM - GB win +1 for Bengals
    Tennessee at Seattle 4:15 PM -Ten win +1 for Pats
    Kansas City at Denver 4:15 PM -KC win +1 for Bengals
    Good work Ikey,

    I can only say with confidence that the Patriots will have a tough time with whoever they play in the first round. Most likely Baltimore.

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