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Thread: Great Read: Mangini's Jets D vs Ryan's (plus Sanchez stuff) *merged*

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    Ryan's solidified himself as one of the best defensive football minds in the league. A lot of people thought he'd fail to implement an elite defense as a head coach just as Mike Nolan and Marvin Lewis did when they left Baltimore. His smothering, suffocating defenses will keep us in contention every year.

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    ... Do It For the Duck!!!!!!!!! ..........









    l_j_r

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    [QUOTE=ljr@work;3436444]... Do It For the Duck!!!!!!!!! ..........









    l_j_r[/QUOTE]

    Duck > Penguin

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    [B]In fact, only two teams since the merger that led the league in rushing yards have gone on to win a Super Bowl. The first was the undefeated 1972 Dolphins, who led the league in everything, including scoring defense. The last was the mighty 1985 Bears, whose top-ranked defense was masterminded by, that's right, Buddy Ryan -- the odd duck of an old man.[/B]

    See? It's been done before!

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    [QUOTE=sg3;3436224]LOVE THE ODD DUCK[/QUOTE]

    That's what it says on the SI site. Go to the original article on Cold Hard Football Facts, and see what the real language is :D

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    That article gave me a hard fuggin on.

    Wow!!

    If we even improve 10% on those passing stats next year we will be in a good place.

    Now here is the million dollar question....can the defense duplicate this very impressive performance next season?

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;3436486]That's what it says on the SI site. Go to the original article on Cold Hard Football Facts, and see what the real language is :D[/QUOTE]

    tomato, tomahto :D

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    CHFF | Goofy f*ck Rex Ryan delivers the goods

    [B]Goofy f*ck Rex Ryan delivers the goods [/B]
    Cold Hard Football Facts for January 5, 2010

    Sure, Jets coach Rex Ryan is goofier than a pop starlet on roofies, meandering back and forth between stand-up comedian and defensive genius in the space of a single press conference. But he's also a goofy f*ck who promised and then delivered a stunning turnaround for the Jets D.

    By Kerry J. Byrne
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    Let’s just say it, because we know you’re all thinking it: Jets coach Rex Ryan is one goofy f*ck.

    He predicted a Super Bowl victory about 10 minutes after he took the gig. He declared his club’s season over when it wasn’t. He comes from the Dick Vermeil school of unapologetically weeping in public. He called his hot-dog-munching rookie quarterback a knucklehead, like they were two-thirds of a comedy trio. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk! His press conferences drift with varying degrees of success into stand-up routines.

    Rex Ryan even comes from a long line of goofy f*cks. His twin brother Rob Ryan is a mullet-haired goofy f*ck. And his old man Buddy Ryan was a goofy f*ck long before it became trendy.

    Buddy issued bounties for the heads of opposing players, battled with his bosses, ran up the score on his rivals whenever possible and, in his serene golden years, tried to punch out one of his fellow assistants on national television.

    Oh, Buddy also went to Super Bowls as a defensive assisstant with three different teams (1968 Jets, 1976 Vikings and 1985 Bears). And he created perhaps the most intimidating defensive force in modern NFL annals: a quarter-century later, the phrase "1985 Bears" still rings with an air of howling, bone-chilling defensive ferocity that, to this day, causes Hall of Famer John Hannah to curl up into a fetal ball and cry for his mama.

    So the goofy f*ck of an old man delivered the goods. So, too, has his goofy f*ck of a son.

    Rex promised Jets fans an ass-kicking defense. And, in his first year with the team, he’s delivered an ass-kicking defense.

    Oh, sure, the Jets are a borderline playoff team at 9-7. And, yes, they backed into the playoffs, like a little-old lady who unknowingly shifted the car into reverse at a red light. Hey, look, we’re in somebody’s front porch!

    But we fault no team or no man for taking advantage of the opportunities presented them. The Jets simply took advantage of the opportunities that presented themselves, and they did it almost exclusively on the strength of Rex Ryan’s defense. It's a unit that is almost singularly responsible for lifting a team with a dysfunctional rookie quarterback and a goofy f*ck rookie head coach into the playoffs.

    Here’s a look at how the Jets stacked up in several key defensive indicators last year under Eric Mangini and this year under the Goofy F*ck (a more complete side-by-side comparison of the two defenses is found here):

    The 2008 Jets ranked 22nd in Defensive Passer Rating (88.1).
    [B]The 2009 Jets are No. 1 (58.8). [/B]That's a stunning improvement of nearly 30 points in this critical indicator of defensive success and that's borderline unprecedented.

    The 2008 Jets ranked 23rd in touchdown passes allowed (23).
    [B]The 2009 Jets are No. 1 (8). [/B]In other words, the Jets were torched for three touchdowns passes every two games last year. This year? Just one TD pass every two games.

    The 2008 Jets ranked 16th in total defense (329.4 YPG).
    [B]The 2009 Jets are No. 1 (252.3). [/B]If Chris Farley were interviewing Rex Ryan right now, he'd drool breathlessly, "that was awesome!"

    The 2008 Jets ranked 18th in scoring defense (22.2 PPG).
    [B]They 2009 Jets are No. 1 (14.8 PG). [/B]We're not math majors, but that looks like a decline of 33 percent in scoring against the Jets this year. Not impressed? Just remember the acidic bile that ate away at your stomach lining when your retirement fund lost 33 percent in the fall and winter of 2008-09.

    The 2008 Jets ranked 13th in points allowed vs. Quality Opponents (22.7).
    [B]The 2009 Jets are No. 1 in points allowed vs. Quality Opponents (13.7). [/B]In other words, the Goofy F*ck's defense has improved even more dramatically against good teams than it has against your ordinary, average, run-of-the-mill teams.

    The 2008 Jets ranked 29th in pass defense (234.9 YPG).
    [B]The 2009 Jets are No. 1 (153.7). [/B]Yup, another big turnaround. It's like two different teams out there. And, yes, the NFL's shutdown cornerback du jour, Darrelle Revis, started all 16 games for both teams.

    The 2008 Jets ranked 18th in passing yards per attempt allowed (7.0 YPA).
    [B]The 2009 Jets are No. 1 (5.4 YPA). [/B]Wow, 5.4 YPA passing the ball against the Jets. There were a handful of players this year who averaged more than 5.4 YPA running the friggin' ball: Jamaal Charles (5.9 YPA), Felix Jones (5.9) and Chris Johnson of course (5.6), to name three notables from the 2009 season.

    The 2008 Jets ranked 15th in third-down defense (61.4%)
    [B]The 2009 Jets are No. 1 (68.5%). [/B]Call us brilliant, but forcing opponents to punt sure seems like one way to keep them out of the end zone.

    We don't care how goofy a f*ck your coach is, that's called delivering the goods.

    [B]The Sanchize Issue[/B]

    The most impressive aspect of New York’s run to the playoffs is that the team had to overcome one of the most incompetent passing attacks in football to get there – their own.

    Loyal Cold, Hard Football Facts readers (Hi Sheriff Coltrane!) know that passing the ball well on offense and stopping the pass on defense are the magic yin & yang that leads to success in the NFL.

    Yet the Jets this year failed miserably in one end of the equation. Like most rookies throughout history, Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez has made one mistake after another and found NFL defenses tougher to decipher than the Enigma code. New York ranks near the bottom of the NFL in most key passing indicators:

    21st in Passing Yards Per Attempt (5.64)
    28th in interceptions (21)
    28th in Offensive Passer Rating (62.2)
    29th in touchdown passes (12)
    30th in interception percentage (5.34%) – interestingly, teams with rookie QBs rounded out the bottom three in INT percentage: Tampa, Detroit, N.Y. Jets

    Those numbers typically add up to a long, lousy season, as they did for all the other teams with equally inept passing games this year: the Rams, Raiders, Buccaneers, Lions and Browns. The Jets are easily the worst passing team in the playoffs.

    Sure, pigskin “pundits” tied to tired old theories of success in football are raving about New York’s top-ranked rushing attack (172.2). But as CHFF readers know, a top-ranked rushing attack and $10 will get you five chalupas on the Taco Bell Diet and not much else.

    Great running teams rarely go far in the NFL, while great passing teams typically win Super Bowls. Besides the Jets this year, the great running teams are the Titans (with 2,000-yard rusher Chris Johnson), the Panthers (with the first tandem of 1,100-yard backs in NFL history) and the Dolphins (with the trend-setting "wildcat" offense).

    None of those teams have great a quarterback or a great defense. So none of those teams are in the playoffs, despite their great rushing attacks.

    The reputed great running teams that have gone far in NFL history, meanwhile, were almost always accompanied by incredibly effective passing attacks led by Hall of Fame quarterbacks – the 1960s Packers, the 1970s Steelers, the 1990s Cowboys and 1990s Broncos some notable examples.

    So great running teams with great defenses rarely do much without a great quarterback. The 2009 Jets are a rare exception.

    In fact, only two teams since the merger that led the league in rushing yards have gone on to win a Super Bowl.

    The first was the undefeated 1972 Dolphins, who led the league in everything, including scoring defense.

    The last was the mighty 1985 Bears, whose top-ranked defense was masterminded by, that’s right, Buddy Ryan – the goofy f*ck of an old man.

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    Sounds awesome!

    Go Jets!

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    There is do doubt Rex has delivered. Look at all of those #1 rankings... We have a monster defense...

    If Sanchez turns into a legit QB, we'll be winning Super Bowls in these parts.

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    Cool article. Rex may have his shortcomings when it comes to running the offense (which is why we need an above average OC) but he has brought everything to this Jets D that we all dreamed of when we he was hired. I couldn't be happier with him and I really can't wait to see what he can do after another draft which (hopefully) will focus on defense.

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    whoa...i love this article...one thing,though...three plays and they win 12 games easily..which would have been even more impressive...ryan is a defensive whiz...losing jenkins...no de studs to speak of...inconsistent play at weak side db ...rhodes coming up lame most of season...pace out four games...gholston a bust...remarkable...

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    Now will those people who can't get enough of Mangini admit that there is no compariosn between Rex and him!!!!!

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    I was bored at work this morning and scoured the Internet for Jets articles and read this one among several others.

    It just made me so pumped for Saturday afternoon. I haven't been this excited as a Jets fan in so long.

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    favorite line...

    [QUOTE][B]The 2008 Jets ranked 16th in total defense (329.4 YPG). The 2009 Jets are No. 1 (252.3).[/B] If Chris Farley were interviewing Rex Ryan right now, he'd drool breathlessly, "that was awesome!"[/QUOTE]

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    Decent enough article, but Kerry Byrne is a fat lisping ****tard that probably still lives in his Moms basement. Has anyone else watched "Full Color Football: The history of the AFL"?

    I fast forward the commentary by Byrne. He is that annoying.

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    "Goofy F*ck". Now, THAT is disrespectful. Wow.

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    it sure is. cosidering that jenkins was lost for most of the season and rhodes is swooning even more than last season. what rex has done with this defense is truly amazing.

    one thing that is interesting. sanchez is only ranked 21st in terms of yards per passing attempt. that means there are at least 11 behind him. usually 6.5 yards per attempt is the norm.

    [QUOTE=sg3;3436236]pretty amazing stuff


    except for Scott, Leonhard and Douglas and without Jenkins for most of the season.... for the most part, Rex accomplished this turnaround with the same "bums" that Mangini had when they turned Seneca Wallace, Jay Cutler and Shaun Hill into HOF candidates last December[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=jetswin;3436254]Good read...I still say that Sanchez is not as bad as his numbers indicate [B](which I guess would also make the defense not as good as its numbers indicate)[/B] but I do think Rex is one of the best hires this franchise has ever made. :yes:[/QUOTE]

    I agree with everything but the bolded part.

    Great read.

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