Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 41 to 60 of 62

Thread: DBrick is an ELITE LT

  1. #41
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Omaha, NE
    Posts
    8,650
    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477663]describe Emmet Smiths' career if we drafted him instead of Blair Thomas.
    Do not discount the superior line he ran behind for years.

    Sorry, but at 4, he should be one of the best in the sport - and he is not.
    Schobel from the bills, owns him. Show him power - he folds.

    I do see improvement - he has gotten thicker despite them only adding 5 pounds to his listed weight (they lied 4 years ago - he was likely 290 tops).[/QUOTE]

    schobel hasn't "owned" him since the 2nd game in 2006, bricks rookie year. since then, he's averaged half a sack against the jets (not counting 2008 because he didn't play against us). yeah, he sure folds against an elite pass rusher like schobel.

    fyi, schobel considers brick one of the best at that position.

    [QUOTE] Schobel ranked him with Cleveland's Joe Thomas and Miami's Jake Long as the NFL's top tackles.
    "He could be the best," Schobel said of Ferguson. "He's definitely up there. I think he's definitely in the top three."[/QUOTE]
    [url]http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/bills_de_says_brick_wall_f4GLnxtV8WDXIk2HDvhDcP#ixzz0darEv53h[/url]

  2. #42
    [QUOTE=doggin94it;3477781]Ngata would be the only other available player in the conversation (and I actually wanted him over brick before the draft, on the theory that a quality LT would be available in the 2d round of that draft)[/QUOTE]

    If I remember correctly Ngata was not considered an elite NT and was projected to be selected anywhere from 10-15.

    While Ngata has a had a very good career thus far, he also benefited highly from rex Ryan's system in Baltimore.............

  3. #43
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Omaha, NE
    Posts
    8,650
    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477790]I suppose that draft was a total wash out then.

    You see guys come into the league as high picks and be great, so often.
    Some on our own team.
    I love watching Harris, a 2nd rounder - he is playing way over his draft position.
    Brick has been OK - nothing special.
    Always said he was good against speed - [B]he can't handle strength/power.[/B]
    Sure he is improving - he gave up 10 sacks as a rookie.

    When guys play over their draft position - you have great teams.
    I'm not a hater - I'm honest about his skills.

    How did Lynch beat Rhodes out 2 years ago - popularity.
    Brick is on the best line in football, and he got the nod.

    Been fun - night.[/QUOTE]

    what is this based on?!??

  4. #44
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Bergen County, NJ
    Posts
    20,115
    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477790]I suppose that draft was a total wash out then.

    You see guys come into the league as high picks and be great, so often.
    Some on our own team.
    I love watching Harris, a 2nd rounder - he is playing way over his draft position.
    Brick has been OK - nothing special.
    Always said he was good against speed - he can't handle strength/power.
    Sure he is improving - he gave up 10 sacks as a rookie.

    When guys play over their draft position - you have great teams.
    I'm not a hater - I'm honest about his skills.

    How did Lynch beat Rhodes out 2 years ago - popularity.
    Brick is on the best line in football, and he got the nod.

    Been fun - night.[/QUOTE]

    Hey--Jetsound!

    Right now.

    Who in that draft would you have taken at 4?

    Who?

    Come up with a better more plausible name than D'BRick or STFU.

    Seriously.

    Do your research, look at who was taken 3 through 15, no 22, and tell us ALL who would have been a better pick than an LT starting from the FIRST day who has now made the Pro-Bowl.

    WHO?!?

    Seriously?

    WHO?!?

    Don't give me a trade down to 18 then to 35 then to 42 and then we could have taken 3 great CBs.

    If you can't come up with a better name, then STFU.

    And that is NOT a personal attack, it's an attack on your football acumen.

    WHO?!?

  5. #45
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Bayville & Sec334
    Posts
    2,099
    [QUOTE=Megalomaniac;3477809]what is this based on?!??[/QUOTE]

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4sRSZm9Y4w[/url]

  6. #46
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Omaha, NE
    Posts
    8,650
    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477819][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4sRSZm9Y4w[/url][/QUOTE]

    1 sack from the whole season is your proof?

    no comment about schobel considering brick one of the best and not owning him since his rookie year?

  7. #47
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Bergen County, NJ
    Posts
    20,115
    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477819][][/QUOTE]

    BTW, you are an embarrassment to your avatar.

  8. #48
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Bayville & Sec334
    Posts
    2,099
    [QUOTE=JStokes;3477816]Hey--Jetsound!

    Right now.

    Who in that draft would you have taken at 4?

    Who?

    Come up with a better more plausible name than D'BRick or STFU.

    Seriously.

    Do your research, look at who was taken 3 through 15, no 22, and tell us ALL who would have been a better pick than an LT starting from the FIRST day who has now made the Pro-Bowl.

    WHO?!?

    Seriously?

    WHO?!?

    Don't give me a trade down to 18 then to 35 then to 42 and then we could have taken 3 great CBs.

    If you can't come up with a better name, then STFU.

    And that is NOT a personal attack, it's an attack on your football acumen.

    WHO?!?[/QUOTE]


    Easy to yell - 4 years later they all suck.
    All the teams in the top 10 should be pissed.
    Win some - lose some. There were no winners in the top 10 then.
    Still - I would like more from a 4.
    He's not a bust, and no Jarrod Bunch - but he's no great.

  9. #49
    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477819][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4sRSZm9Y4w[/url][/QUOTE]


    .......LOL......

    this is laughable at best.

    So D'Brick shouldnt allow another sack in his career and REVIS should never allow another TOUCHDOWN or these two will bee seen as JAGS to you?

    I think Winston Churchill put it best when he said:
    [I]You sir, are an @ss clown.[/I]

  10. #50
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Omaha, NE
    Posts
    8,650
    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477826]Easy to yell - 4 years later they all suck.
    All the teams in the top 10 should be pissed.
    Win some - lose some. There were no winners in the top 10 then.
    Still - I would like more from a 4.
    He's not a bust, and no Jarrod Bunch - but he's no great.[/QUOTE]

    so your answer is that he was the right choice?

  11. #51
    [QUOTE=copernicus;3477802]If I remember correctly Ngata was not considered an elite NT and was projected to be selected anywhere from 10-15.

    While Ngata has a had a very good career thus far, he also benefited highly from rex Ryan's system in Baltimore.............[/QUOTE]

    Ngata was considered elite, a freak of nature. The theory was just that you don't take a NT that high. For a 3-4 team, I thought that was idiocy.

    And right now, Ngata might be the most dominant DT in the league - and that has nothing to do with the system. The "system" can help LBs, DBs, even DEs. DTs? The guys in the middle who need to win one on one and even one on two battles so that the "scheme" can free up those other players? No. The system doesn't "help" DTs - it relies on them

  12. #52
    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477826]Easy to yell - 4 years later they all suck.
    All the teams in the top 10 should be pissed.
    Win some - lose some. There were no winners in the top 10 then.
    Still - I would like more from a 4.
    He's not a bust, and no Jarrod Bunch - but he's no great.[/QUOTE]

    If you would like more from a No. 4 than starting at LT from day one, and being recognized as an elite LT by opponents and analysts, and voted to the probowl by year 4 . . . perhaps its your expectations that are the problem, not the player

  13. #53
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Bayville & Sec334
    Posts
    2,099
    [QUOTE=Megalomaniac;3477820]1 sack from the whole season is your proof?

    no comment about schobel considering brick one of the best and not owning him since his rookie year?[/QUOTE]


    We were a running offense in 2009.
    We ran to the right mostly.
    Brick did not distunguish himself to a pro bowl level - neither did Faneca.
    Linemen from the Titans should have went over our boys.

    Re Schobel - could be game-speak. What should he say about his opponent, "he sucks?"

  14. #54
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Bergen County, NJ
    Posts
    20,115
    [QUOTE=JStokes;3477816]Hey--Jetsound!

    Right now.

    Who in that draft would you have taken at 4?

    Who?

    Come up with a better more plausible name than D'BRick or STFU.

    Seriously.

    Do your research, look at who was taken 3 through 15, no 22, and tell us ALL who would have been a better pick than an LT starting from the FIRST day who has now made the Pro-Bowl.

    WHO?!?

    Seriously?

    WHO?!?

    Don't give me a trade down to 18 then to 35 then to 42 and then we could have taken 3 great CBs.

    If you can't come up with a better name, then STFU.

    And that is NOT a personal attack, it's an attack on your football acumen.

    WHO?!?[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477826]Easy to yell - 4 years later they all suck.
    All the teams in the top 10 should be pissed.
    Win some - lose some. There were no winners in the top 10 then.
    Still - I would like more from a 4.
    He's not a bust, and no Jarrod Bunch - but he's no great.[/QUOTE]

    Answer the question or STFU...Who should we have taken at 4?!?

    WHO???!!!???

    Answer or STFU.

  15. #55
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Bayville & Sec334
    Posts
    2,099
    [QUOTE=HitSomeone41;3477828].......LOL......

    this is laughable at best.

    So D'Brick shouldnt allow another sack in his career and REVIS should never allow another TOUCHDOWN or these two will bee seen as JAGS to you?

    I think Winston Churchill put it best when he said:
    [I]You sir, are an @ss clown.[/I][/QUOTE]


    You're going a bit far here and your late to the party.
    Stop piling on.
    I only found a 2009 sack by Schobel against Brick.

    Like who you like - I'm not Brick-crazy.

  16. #56
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Omaha, NE
    Posts
    8,650
    [QUOTE=doggin94it;3477831]Ngata was considered elite, a freak of nature. The theory was just that you don't take a NT that high. For a 3-4 team, I thought that was idiocy.

    And right now, Ngata might be the most dominant DT in the league - and that has nothing to do with the system. The "system" can help LBs, DBs, even DEs. DTs? The guys in the middle who need to win one on one and even one on two battles so that the "scheme" can free up those other players? No. The system doesn't "help" DTs - it relies on them[/QUOTE]

    doesn't he usually play DE unless gregg is hurt? not saying he's a bad NT or anything. he's pretty awesome, but most of his career has been at DE.

  17. #57
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Bayville & Sec334
    Posts
    2,099
    [QUOTE=JStokes;3477838]Answer the question or STFU...Who should we have taken at 4?!?

    WHO???!!!???

    Answer or STFU.[/QUOTE]


    For a 50 year old, you sure are a dick.
    I expect this kind of crap from the 24 year old.

    That was a crazy year - guys wanted Cutler remember.
    So at 4, Brick was the best choice of a **** bunch - happy?

    Calm your STFU's down. Take a pill.

  18. #58
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Bergen County, NJ
    Posts
    20,115
    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477849]You're going a bit far here and your late to the party.
    Stop piling on.
    I only found a 2009 sack by Schobel against Brick.

    Like who you like - I'm not Brick-crazy.[/QUOTE]

    You really need to ask Mommy to tuck you into bed.

    Seriously, Brick was one of the reasons we GOT to the playoffs.

    Calling him out is kind of dumb.

    I'll ask again, if you are going to cast stones at Brick, you HAVE to have a better option.

    What we SHOULD have done at 4 that year?

    Bring it.

    Or STFU.

    You embarrass your avatar.

  19. #59
    [QUOTE=Megalomaniac;3477851]doesn't he usually play DE unless gregg is hurt? not saying he's a bad NT or anything. he's pretty awesome, but most of his career has been at DE.[/QUOTE]

    Yes - but that's more a function of Gregg being only a NT than Gregg being better than Ngata at NT. Ngata essentially plays DT as a DE in the 3-4

  20. #60
    [QUOTE=Jetsound;3477559]Leinart sucks (I know your joking).
    But the one year we don't make a move (for Bush) is when we should.
    We bit the big one moving up for D'Fat.
    We move up for everyone.

    Brick is a great guy - but only 1 step over a JAG.[/QUOTE]

    So you are saying we should have traded 2 1st's to get REGGIE BUSH! :rolleyes:

    Our 4th round pick that year (Leon) has been better than him so far.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Follow Us