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    Not true

    [QUOTE=Batmans A Scientist;3507568]THe idea that the NFL wouldn't have a lockout/strike because "they saw what happened in baseball" is ridiculous for a lot of reasons.

    The most obvious... THE FANS CAME BACK IN LESS THAN 5 SEASONS![/QUOTE]

    The Blue Jays have NEVER been the same since the strike. This is a team that consistently set attendance records from the late 80s through till the strike. On any given mid-weeknight blue jay game, pretty much every game, the attendance at skydome was very close to 50 000 if not higher -

    Now the Jays are lucky to get 7 000-10 000, even on the weekends, and rarely rarely will put the stadium to capacity (opening night, etc).

    Tickets used to rival maple leaf prices, now you can buy $2 bleacher tickets on tuesday nights - even non-special prices in many areas of the stadium now cost 300 to 400% less than they did in the late 80s.

    The fans may have come back in certain places where baseball is the hot ticket in town no matter what, but many of the other markets have shrunk and will likely never recover to their pre-strike levels. The yankees are so popular with all you NY folks that the strike didn't really even do any damage - same way the NHL strike did not effect the leafs at all - except it made them suck really bad ever since :), but the smaller market teams were significantly hurt by it, atlanta, florida etc.

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    [QUOTE=Gas2No99;3507738][url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81695a40&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true[/url]

    [SIZE="4"][B]League, union begin another bargaining session over labor deal[/B][/SIZE]

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    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith began their latest negotiating session for a new collective bargaining agreement Thursday in Indianapolis.

    As the NFL Scouting Combine got under way, the two sides met in a hotel ballroom. Both sides arrived shortly before 9:30 a.m., and Smith was joined by several players' representatives, including Colts center Jeff Saturday.

    Goodell appeared to be in good spirits. He smiled and hugged one player before negotiations began. [B]Goodell has said he believes the two sides can reach a new deal before March 2011, when the CBA expires[/B].[/QUOTE]

    I certainly hope that this is true and there's no lockout, but I don't think there's much else he could really say.

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    [QUOTE=jetsfan_toronto_canada;3507760]The Blue Jays have NEVER been the same since the strike. This is a team that consistently set attendance records from the late 80s through till the strike. On any given mid-weeknight blue jay game, pretty much every game, the attendance at skydome was very close to 50 000 if not higher -

    Now the Jays are lucky to get 7 000-10 000, even on the weekends, and rarely rarely will put the stadium to capacity (opening night, etc).

    Tickets used to rival maple leaf prices, now you can buy $2 bleacher tickets on tuesday nights - even non-special prices in many areas of the stadium now cost 300 to 400% less than they did in the late 80s.

    The fans may have come back in certain places where baseball is the hot ticket in town no matter what, but many of the other markets have shrunk and will likely never recover to their pre-strike levels. The yankees are so popular with all you NY folks that the strike didn't really even do any damage - same way the NHL strike did not effect the leafs at all - except it made them suck really bad ever since :), but the smaller market teams were significantly hurt by it, atlanta, florida etc.[/QUOTE]

    Its not insignificant that prior to the strike the blue jays were good, and since the strike they've been a bottom feeder.

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    [QUOTE]Your #4 is completely wrong. there are still penalties for cutting salary in an uncapped year providing a cap is instilled for future years in the new cba. teams are not willing to risk that.[/QUOTE]

    I haven't heard this before. I thought this was actually a pretty big concern, the danger for football isn't to turn into MLB (which is bad, but not as bad as people make it out to be), but to turn into the English Premier League. The top 4 teams have been the same for 5 years, and most of the other teaqms in the league can't afford to keep up. It's an untenable situation.

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    Feb 25, 12:48 PM EST

    INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith spent about 1 hour, 40 minutes working on a new collective bargaining agreement Thursday, then left without saying a word.
    The two sides met in an Indianapolis hotel ballroom as the league's annual scouting combine began.
    Goodell remains hopeful the two sides can reach a deal before March 2011 when the CBA expires.
    If they do not have a new deal before March 5, the league will have its first non-salary cap season since 1993, and players are anticipating a lockout before the start of the 2011 season.
    Smith was joined in the room by several player representatives including Jeff Saturday of Indianapolis and Mike Vrabel of Kansas City.
    Goodell brought a group of league executives including executive vice president and general counsel Jeff Pash.
    The meeting was supposed to last about one hour but went longer than expected. Goodell and Smith both declined to take questions afterward, and the player reps also did not take questions.
    Goodell appeared to be in good spirits when he entered the room. He smiled and hugged one player before negotiations began. When the session broke up, both sides came out expressionless.
    Smith has repeatedly said he expects NFL owners to lock out players before the start of the 2011 season, and the union has been telling players to plan appropriately so their families can have a similar lifestyle if there is a lockout.
    The NFLPA also sent out a memo Tuesday saying it does not expect a new deal to be in place by March 5 when free agents can start signing with new teams.
    Smith has said the sides have had 12 general bargaining sessions to discuss issues related to developing a new CBA and that there have been more than 30 overall bargaining sessions with the league in the past six months

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