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    ILB Depth

    We have none.

    When Leon went down, and TJ slowed up, no problem. Why? We drafted RB depth in Greene.
    When Kris Jenkins went down, we freaked. But it was no prob. We got even better on D, which is another discussion. Why? We had previously drafted for depth at Nt.
    When Pace was suspended, our D was still ok, and it held up in fact on the whole. Why? We drafted a player that should have been able to play the position. Whether he did or not, another discussion.
    When Kerry Rhodes sucked, it was ok, because we drafted for depth, and Eric Smith was there waiting for his shot.
    When Ellis needed to be spelled for large parts of games, big games, it was all good. Why? We drafted Devito for depth.
    When Sheppard was down, we had signed depth ready to fill in with Strickland. And when he went down, we had drafted depth.

    Watch the collisions Bart Scott is involved with. They're rated R for violence. By the end of the season these violent collisions and the rest of the workload cause injury. It was rumored that Scott was somewhere around 50% at Indy.
    There was a big scare when Harris was injured in the Cincy game. Would he play in the POs? When he was injured, we had no one to sub in.

    What Rex did was change the package, putting Ihedigbo in. A safety. Watch the long Benson TD in the WC game.

    Ihedigbo is in at ILB. 3 safeties were in against Cincinnati...and we got torched.

    This is a position I feel will be drafted this year, or should be.

    Remember comments by Tanny how Rex loves smaller faster players, which might seem counter intuitive to s/o used to a Mangini style 34.
    Remember Ray Lewis was 230 lbs coming out of Miami, a 43 school, and he eventually adapted.

    As long as you have adequate DL, and can get off blocks, which is a technique issue, not a weigh issue per se, a ILB doesn't have to be 255.

    These are guys, playmakers, I would like the FO to take a hard look at, in order of where they will be drafted:

    Navorro Bowman is a freak playmaker
    Pat Angerer is my favorite player in the draft, a freak
    Sean Lee is another

    Any others? Remember, Harris is playing his way to a monster contract.

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    [QUOTE=Darth Vader;3507747]
    Pat Angerer is my favorite player in the draft, a freak
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    :steamin:... :steamin: he's got a great last name for a defender too!!! :steamin: ...:steamin:










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    [QUOTE=Darth Vader;3507747]We have none.

    When Leon went down, and TJ slowed up, no problem. Why? We drafted RB depth in Greene.
    When Kris Jenkins went down, we freaked. But it was no prob. We got even better on D, which is another discussion. Why? We had previously drafted for depth at Nt.
    When Pace was suspended, our D was still ok, and it held up in fact on the whole. Why? We drafted a player that should have been able to play the position. Whether he did or not, another discussion.
    When Kerry Rhodes sucked, it was ok, because we drafted for depth, and Eric Smith was there waiting for his shot.
    When Ellis needed to be spelled for large parts of games, big games, it was all good. Why? We drafted Devito for depth.
    When Sheppard was down, we had signed depth ready to fill in with Strickland. And when he went down, we had drafted depth.

    Watch the collisions Bart Scott is involved with. They're rated R for violence. By the end of the season these violent collisions and the rest of the workload cause injury. It was rumored that Scott was somewhere around 50% at Indy.
    There was a big scare when Harris was injured in the Cincy game. Would he play in the POs? When he was injured, we had no one to sub in.

    What Rex did was change the package, putting Ihedigbo in. A safety. Watch the long Benson TD in the WC game.

    Ihedigbo is in at ILB. 3 safeties were in against Cincinnati...and we got torched.

    This is a position I feel will be drafted this year, or should be.

    Remember comments by Tanny how Rex loves smaller faster players, which might seem counter intuitive to s/o used to a Mangini style 34.
    Remember Ray Lewis was 230 lbs coming out of Miami, a 43 school, and he eventually adapted.

    As long as you have adequate DL, and can get off blocks, which is a technique issue, not a weigh issue per se, a ILB doesn't have to be 255.

    These are guys, playmakers, I would like the FO to take a hard look at, in order of where they will be drafted:

    Navorro Bowman is a freak playmaker
    Pat Angerer is my favorite player in the draft, a freak
    Sean Lee is another

    Any others? Remember, Harris is playing his way to a monster contract.[/QUOTE]

    I don't disagree with you on the overall premise, but after Harris got hurt, Fowler played but also got banged up. He had a head injury and didn't suit up for the Cincy playoff game.

    I was kind of disappointed in Fowler this year. His signing ostensibly freed us up to get rid of Trusnik as Fowler was a starter for the Titans for over a year at MLB and was also a STs force. He didn't do a helluva lot on STs and in his few spots getting snaps at MLB. Pretty sure he's not coming back here next year.

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    Fowler looked like garbage any time I saw him on defence. We definetly need an upgrade at ILB behind our top two, as much for S.T. duty as being a LB.

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    Definitely our biggest LB need.

    If Micah Johnson actually ends up in the 5th I'd use our pick on him almost instantly...Angerer also works...wouldn't mind AJ Edds late either though I'm thinking I overrate him...Arthur Moats is an interesting name...Sam Maxwell too...Perry Riley would really work as a big ILB thumper type...

    Definitely wouldn't mind pick one up...That said, don't underrate Westerman (ILB/OLB)...and I was surprised to find out that we have Ezra Butler on the practice squad.

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    I agree with everything said. First, I thought Fowler looked AWFUL when he was in against 1st teams, so an upgrade over him or Izzo as 3rd ILB would be a huge boost for both the D and ST

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    [QUOTE=SenorGato;3507861]Definitely our biggest LB need.

    If Micah Johnson actually ends up in the 5th I'd use our pick on him almost instantly...Angerer also works...wouldn't mind AJ Edds late either though I'm thinking I overrate him...Arthur Moats is an interesting name...Sam Maxwell too...Perry Riley would really work as a big ILB thumper type...

    Definitely wouldn't mind pick one up...That said, don't underrate Westerman (ILB/OLB)...and I was surprised to find out that we have Ezra Butler on the practice squad.[/QUOTE]

    Westerman is going to be used as a utility LB. They'll train him to play all the positions and he'd be a great backup/first off the bench kind of player here IMO.

    I don't think he's starter material, but he's a versatile player who has value in that role.

    Given Rex's creative schemes, a player who can move around will always have a spot.

    I like Micah as well, but I think UDFA is where they go for another ILB.

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    Fowler is not an option IMO. He was terrible. Westerman is a nice ST player, maybe more...

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    While this is all true, i don't see it be addressed any earlier than our 6th or 7th pick, more likely UDFA.

    I can't imagine anyone in the right mind thinking ILB is a need with our premium picks.

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    [QUOTE=TheMikeIsHot;3507881]Westerman is going to be used as a utility LB. They'll train him to play all the positions and he'd be a great backup/first off the bench kind of player here IMO.

    I don't think he's starter material, but he's a versatile player who has value in that role.

    Given Rex's creative schemes, a player who can move around will always have a spot.

    I like Micah as well, but I think UDFA is where they go for another ILB.[/QUOTE]

    I don't know, Westerman showed he could play off the edge pretty effectively but being in the middle with guards trying to maul you is another kettle of fish. I hope your right. I still think it would be a good idea to upgrade depth in case of injury if not groom a replacement for Scott wo will be 30 this summer.

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    I know it's not a popular choice on this board but...

    ILB depth can honestly start and stop with Adalius Thomas.

    Assuming of course he's cut.

    Let's look at some facts:
    - He's good friends with Bart Scott
    - Knows the system inside and out
    - Was very productive in the system
    - Has some knowledge about New England and has the MO to give it to BB
    - Hopefully takes a hometown discount to be reunited with Rex

    I honestly would love for us to sign him for ILB/OLB depth.

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    [QUOTE=Paradis;3507888]While this is all true, i don't see it be addressed any earlier than our 6th or 7th pick, more likely UDFA.

    I can't imagine anyone in the right mind thinking ILB is a need with our premium picks.[/QUOTE]

    I would use a 2nd round pick if bowman was there and maybe on angerer depending on his merics.

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    [QUOTE=Darth Vader;3507918]I would use a 2nd round pick if bowman was there and maybe on angerer depending on his merics.[/QUOTE]

    Is Bowman projected as a MLB? I always had him pegged as the pass rushing specialist type.

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    [QUOTE=crasherino;3508015]Is Bowman projected as a MLB? I always had him pegged as the pass rushing specialist type.[/QUOTE]

    I wouldn't call him a pass rusher. In the 43 PSU ran he showed the ability to do multiple things. Which Is why ina syustem like rex's he could flourish.

    There's no doubt in my mind he could play ILB in rexs system.

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    There's 2 inside linebackers on future contracts both from Nevada that i liked a couple of seasons ago.

    that's Ezra Butler and Josh Mauga they can come in and maybe surprise in training camp.

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    this is why i'd like to have those mid round picks we dont have:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NpRbgzYTY0&feature=fvw[/url]

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    [QUOTE=Darth Vader;3508147]this is why i'd like to have those mid round picks we dont have:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NpRbgzYTY0&feature=fvw[/url][/QUOTE]

    Damn he get's some serious depth on drop backs that he gets balls thrown right to him. Would be a good fit for 3rd down.

    It's also why we should start trading next years pics.

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