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    Filling the Slot

    A bunch of analysts (Graham, Cimini, ect.) believe that we are going to make a trade for a receiver before the season starts. I know that we don't have much trade bait, but if you were Tanny who would you be looking at trading for to fill our slot WR position? Please be realistic (no Gholston and Washington for BM crap)!

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    You're right; it's not healthy. But at least you recognized that and got yourself out of the situation. Give yourself a pat on the back for that, wish her well, and get on with your independent adult life.

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    [QUOTE=KingofNY;3530562]A bunch of analysts (Graham, Cimini, ect.) believe that we are going to make a trade for a receiver before the season starts. I know that we don't have much trade bait, but if you were Tanny who would you be looking at trading for to fill our slot WR position? Please be realistic (no Gholston and Washington for BM crap)![/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=andrew.derwin;3530578]You're right; it's not healthy. But at least you recognized that and got yourself out of the situation. Give yourself a pat on the back for that, wish her well, and get on with your independent adult life.[/QUOTE]

    ...?

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    Maybe we should be patient and just draft one, develop someone on the practice squad or pick up some undrafted "talent". Although this article addresses #1 talent, the same could be said for a slot WR.

    [URL]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=4984977[/URL]

    [QUOTE] [B]Quick fixes rarely land big catch[/B]

    [B]For teams seeking No. 1 target, patience and sound judgment are important virtues[/B]

    [URL="http://search.espn.go.com/john-clayton/"][IMG]http://a.espncdn.com/i/columnists/Clayton_John_35.jpg[/IMG][/URL] By John Clayton
    ESPN.com
    [URL="http://search.espn.go.com/john-clayton/"]
    [/URL]
    Pity the teams in desperate need of wide receivers.
    Finding a No. 1 receiver may not be as hard as finding an elite quarterback, but the mission certainly adds peculiar colors to general managers -- either gray hairs or pink slips. Each place a general manager turns -- whether it's free agency, the trade market or draft -- he finds dangers.
    So what is the best way to find a top receiver?
    Obviously, the best way is through the draft. Being patient with a drafted receiver and developing him is the safest way. Patience finally paid off for the [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=phi"]Philadelphia Eagles[/URL] and [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyg"]New York Giants[/URL] after years of being pressured to hit free agency hard or pursue trades.
    The Eagles are set for years with the receiving corps of [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11283"]DeSean Jackson[/URL], [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12579"]Jeremy Maclin[/URL] and [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9695"]Jason Avant[/URL], who just signed a five-year extension to be the No. 3 receiver.
    [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=4984977#"][IMG]http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0311/nfl_g_ssmith2_300.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    Thanks to the development of Steve Smith and other young pass-catchers, the Giants were able to withstand the loss of Plaxico Burress.


    The Giants didn't panic after [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2139"]Plaxico Burress[/URL]' incarceration and now have come out ahead with [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10495"]Steve Smith[/URL], [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12586"]Hakeem Nicks[/URL] and [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11329"]Mario Manningham[/URL].
    Meanwhile, [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2622"]Steve Smith[/URL] of the Panthers has been a No. 1 receiver for years, but he was drafted as a developmental receiver who offered return ability. The only problem with using the draft is the time it takes to see results. It takes a two- to four-year commitment to revamp a receiving corps with the draft. If it works, the next problem is locking those receivers into long-term contracts. Only stable organizations that aren't turning over coaching staffs and front offices can handle that mission.
    Like everything in life, teams are looking for the quick fix. Recent history has shown teams that it might be better to pursue a trade rather than count on free agency to fix desperate receiving needs.
    Naturally, general managers hate using draft choices to trade for top receivers. The landscape changed even more when Jerry Jones and the [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=dal"]Dallas Cowboys[/URL] overspent in draft-choice compensation for [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5532"]Roy Williams[/URL]. The price of a No. 1 wide receiver is considered to be a first- and third-round pick. Jones gave the [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=det"]Detroit Lions[/URL] a No. 1, a No. 3 and a No. 6 and was given back a No. 7 to balance the trade.
    Williams has been more of a No. 3 receiver than a No. 1, catching 57 passes for 794 yards and eight touchdowns in 25 games in Dallas. [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10147"]Miles Austin[/URL] came off the bench last season to become QB [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5209"]Tony Romo[/URL]'s top receiver and ended up going to the Pro Bowl.
    The Williams trade has clearly impacted the past couple of wide receiver deals and should have an impact on the trade value of Denver's [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9705"]Brandon Marshall[/URL]. [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8418"]Braylon Edwards[/URL] has No. 1 receiving talent, but the Browns traded him to the [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj"]New York Jets[/URL] during the 2009 season for a No. 3, a No. 5 and two Jets backups.
    In fact, if you look over the past six years, it's better not to invest a first-round choice in a trade for a wide receiver. The Seahawks didn't get the full return for the first-round pick they used to acquire [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3593"]Deion Branch[/URL] in 2006. Branch hasn't done better than a 725-yard season in his four years in Seattle and has started only 37 of 64 possible games.
    Teams interested in trading for Marshall simply might not be willing to give up a first-round pick even though he's young and has had three consecutive 100-catch seasons. Marshall's off-the-field issues could leave him vulnerable to an eight-game suspension or more if he has another misstep. [B]Plus, the team that acquires him will be forced to pay him more than $9 million a year.[/B]
    The Broncos could decide to keep Marshall if the Seahawks or other teams won't offer more than a second-round choice in a trade. The only problem with that is he's still going to demand No. 1 receiving money.
    The simple solution for teams in need of wide receivers is free agency, but don't expect return for the investment. The Bengals gave [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2209"]Laveranues Coles[/URL] a four-year, $27.5 million contract and cut him after one year. In 2008, the Jaguars gave [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2178"]Jerry Porter[/URL] a six-year, $30.4 million deal and cut him after a season. [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2898"]Drew Bennett[/URL], [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4532"]Kevin Curtis[/URL], [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3541"]Donte' Stallworth[/URL] and others have failed to live up to $5 million-a-year contracts.
    Drafting receivers in the top 10 also has its pitfalls. The failures outnumber the successes. [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10447"]Calvin Johnson[/URL] of the Lions, [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5528"]Larry Fitzgerald[/URL] of the Cardinals and [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4461"]Andre Johnson[/URL] of the Texans have soared, but their successes have been topped by the failures of [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10453"]Ted Ginn Jr.[/URL] (Dolphins), [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8422"]Troy Williamson[/URL] (Jaguars), Roy Williams, [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5534"]Reggie Williams[/URL], [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2556"]David Terrell[/URL], [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2557"]Koren Robinson[/URL], [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2135"]Peter Warrick[/URL] and [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1759"]David Boston[/URL]. The latter five are all out of football.
    The smart thing for a team to do is target particular receivers, be patient and don't overspend in draft-choice compensation. The Ravens waited for more than a year to acquire [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4512"]Anquan Boldin[/URL] from the Cardinals and were able to reduce what was once a first-round price to third- and fourth-round picks, while getting a fifth-rounder in return.
    The Seahawks and other teams interested in Marshall would be wise to wait out the Broncos and try to get him for a second-round choice and maybe a couple of extra picks sprinkled in.
    What will be interesting in April is to see what happens to Oklahoma State wide receiver [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&id=25715"]Dez Bryant[/URL]. Bryant definitely has top-10 talent, but taking him in the top 10 could be dangerous. He didn't play last year and he hasn't been healthy enough to run a 40-time for teams.
    The key to acquiring a top receiver is not giving up too much to get him. That requires patience and control, qualities hard to maintain in a quick-fix society.
    [I]John Clayton, a recipient of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's McCann Award for distinguished reporting, is a senior writer for ESPN.com.[/I]
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    ... thought i was in teh hamper for a sec ...









    l_j_r

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    IMO we should stop these pipe dreams and draft somebody on the second day or sign a street UDFA after the draft for the backup slot receiver position.

    As for the season, I wouldn't be surprised to see LT lined up there on a lot of plays with Shonn in the backfield

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    which, as far as punts were concerned, was a huge problem last year once Leon went down. Cotch tried but it reminded me of the year they decided to force Chrebet to do it and he signaled for the fair catch 90 percent of the time. Brad Smith was better than expected at KO returns but far from a "burner" IMO

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    Drafting a WR to play the slot should be a pretty safe bet. We really don't need any superstars here just someone with reliable hands who can run good routes. This is the #3 WR, we really shouldn't be spending too much on them.

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    [QUOTE=hatnlvr;3530619]Drafting a WR to play the slot should be a pretty safe bet. We really don't need any superstars here just someone with reliable hands who can run good routes. This is the #3 WR, we really shouldn't be spending too much on them.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed. I'd like them to draft Kyle Williams out of ASU. I really like this kid the more I see of him, and he can probably be had for a 5th or 6th.

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    aundrae allison :yes:

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    Find a way to get Stuckey back without overpaying.

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    I'm coming around to the idea of signing a released player like Laveranues Coles, or using one of our eventual few UFA signings on someone like Josh Reed as a short-term stopgap, AND drafting someone like Jacoby Ford, Jordan Shipley, Andre Roberts or Emmanuel Sanders, whoever is available in Round 4. The vet can man the position for a year or so, and the rookie can be groomed behind him as a long-term answer. Plus, it gives us some depth at the WR position for once.

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    Blair White ftw.

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    If healthy, I would like to see Leon Washington givin a shot at the job.

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    sign Kevin Curtis

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    Golden Tate please.

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    [QUOTE=Copenhagen;3530738]Find a way to get Stuckey back without overpaying.[/QUOTE]

    You still have my all time fav avatar Copenhagen....however. Stuckey is super overated on these forums in my mind.

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    and that's the problem with keeping clowney on the active roster. can't play special teams, isn't a slot wr, can't block. small wrs better be either shifty or very fast, not sure clowney is fast enough to make a difference.

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    Where's Savage69's avatar when you need it?

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    [QUOTE=Green Jets & Ham;3530603][B]Emmanuel Sanders [COLOR="Red"](SMU)[/COLOR] or Antonio Brown [COLOR="red"](Central Michigan)[/COLOR] [/B]

    Both possibilities in RD 4 and IMO both have a chance to excell out of the slot

    .... and both are accomplished return men too[/QUOTE]

    Well you know me, i'm all over Brown. I think he can be had in the 5th and would be make a quick and effective transition to slot.

    If we go WR in rnds 1 or 2 (i hope not) it better be for someone to start out at the end (Thomas,Benn,) and move Cotch in the middle.
    Its garbage talk about spending a pick on slot so early.

    ps. rnd 4 wr? -D. Alexander.. :yes:

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