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    Rex does not see Leon as a starter- NY Post

    Rex doesn't see Leon as starter
    Jets BlogBy BART HUBBUCH

    Last Updated: 6:22 AM, March 24, 2010

    Posted: 2:29 AM, March 24, 2010

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    ORLANDO -- While Leon Washington covets starter-type money, Rex Ryan doesn't see him in a starter-type role for the Jets this season.

    One day after Washington was the lone absentee for the start of the Jets' voluntary off-season program, Ryan described him as little more than a supplement to Shonn Greene and newly signed LaDainian Tomlinson in the Jets' backfield.

    "What we should do . . . is put [Washington] back to his role, which he had initially, which is third-down back, a change-of-pace-type back and a Pro Bowl returner," the Jets' coach said yesterday during the NFL's annual meetings. "And there's nothing wrong with that."


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    WHAT NEXT? Leon Washington, coming back from a compound leg fracture, could be a third-down back in the Jets' offense, Rex Ryan said.
    LT WILL KEEP NO. 21

    REPORT: MARSHALL PRICE REDUCED

    Ryan's description of a third-down role is sure to ratchet up the questions about Washington's future with Gang Green -- a future that is cloudy in general after last year's gruesome compound leg fracture.

    Washington's absence Monday didn't go over well with Ryan, who described it as "disappointing."

    "We had an idea that he wasn't going to be there," Ryan said. "It is a voluntary situation, but the rest of his teammates volunteered to be there, so it was disappointing that he wasn't there."

    Still feeling underpaid and upset with changes in the NFL's labor deal this year that kept him from becoming an unrestricted free agent, Washington refused to sign his $1.7 million tender and did not show up for the first day of voluntary workouts.

    Washington's agent, Alvin Keels, also is hoping to stir interest from other teams that might be willing to sign Washington to an offer sheet and give up a second-round pick as compensation. But the market for an undersized back coming off such a horrific injury so far has been limited.

    The Jets fear Washington's boycott of the offseason program could hurt his injury rehabilitation, too. Ryan expressed confidence in the ability of the Jets' medical staff to keep tabs on Washington away from the complex, yet it's still a concern.

    While the Jets and Keels continue to insist Washington will be healthy for the start of training camp, there are no guarantees. That uncertainty is another reason Ryan focused more on Greene and Tomlinson when talking yesterday about the Jets' rushing attack.

    In his first significant comments about Tomlinson since the future Hall of Fame back signed two weeks ago, Ryan insisted Tomlinson will have plenty left at age 31 this fall despite more than 3,400 career "touches" (rushes and receptions).

    Ryan even described Greene and Tomlinson as a potential case of Nos. 1 and 1a on the Jets' tailback depth chart.

    "We're just going to ground and pound away," Ryan said. "I'm sure some games he'll have more rushing attempts than Shonn, and I think Shonn will have more than LT in other ones. Hypothetically, we'd see him carry the ball 15 times a game."

    If that happens, Ryan sees another big year from the Jets' running game.

    "I hope we have that opportunity to have that three-headed monster that we talked about last year," Ryan said. "When you can combine what Shonn Greene and LaDainian and Leon would do for you, I think we'd have the best backfield in the league."



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    No successful NFL coach/team would view Leon Washington as a starter.

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    [QUOTE=JetsFanInSec230;3535807]No successful NFL coach/team would view Leon Washington as a starter.[/QUOTE]

    couldn't agree more...
    he's 5'8", 28 years old, and had his leg broken in 2 places...

    I hope he can make a full recovery and be the Leon Washington that we all remember but I don't like his chances.

    If Leon proves that he is fully back and capable of still breaking big runs, Tanny would be stupid not to resign AFTER this season.

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    Could have been making a cool $4-5 mil per year right now. He'll be lucky if he sees $2 mil per now.

    Really needs to fire his agent, before it get worse for him.

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    [QUOTE=JetChefJR;3535824]couldn't agree more...
    he's 5'8", 28 years old, and had his leg broken in 2 places...

    I hope he can make a full recovery and be the Leon Washington that we all remember but I don't like his chances.

    If Leon proves that he is fully back and capable of still breaking big runs,
    [B][U]Tanny would be stupid not to resign AFTER this season[/U][/B].[/QUOTE]

    Tanny would be stupid to give him a big deal after this season. A 29-going on-30 year old scat back with a history of injury? Love the guy, but no thanks to tying up money and a roster spot on him. He isn't starter material now, forget one year from now...

    I genuinley feel bad for Leon. His stupidass agent royally screwed him out of a big contract, and he probably will never again see that type of opportunity.

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    If he returns to form being a great kick and punt returner and a game breaker as a third down situational back he still a hugely valuable asset for any football team.

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    [QUOTE=Green Jets & Ham;3535827]+1, [B]and yet the Jets were prepared to pay him very handsomely last year [/B](prior to breaking his leg) regardless, but that idiot he calls an agent was holding out for Adrian Peterson money :rolleyes:

    He should have grabbed that loot in a nano second and I said that BEFORE he shattered his leg

    I would have served him better as an agent than Alvin Keels[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=greenwichjetfan;3535838]Tanny would be stupid to give him a big deal after this season. A 29-going on-30 year old scat back with a history of injury? Love the guy, but no thanks to tying up money and a roster spot on him. He isn't starter material now, forget one year from now...

    I genuinley feel bad for Leon. [B]His stupidass agent royally screwed him out of a big contract[/B], and he probably will never again see that type of opportunity.[/QUOTE]

    In fairness, we don't truly know what he was being offered. I recall some reports saying that it was closer to $2 million and even with the $4-5 million reports, that could easily have been back loaded money that he never would have seen.

    But, whatever he was offered then, that's ancient history. He was coming off a really explosive year and Keels should have done his best to maximize his leverage. Now, Leon is in a vastly different situation. He still could do ok after this season though. A 4 yr $10-12 million deal (with $3-4 million upfront) isn't out of the realm of possibility. But things have to fall right in order for him to see that.

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    well duh..when the hell was he ever the starter for the Jets? This whole situation is beginning to irritate me. It's a non-issue; if he signs his tender, he's a Jet and part of the team or he's traded or he doesn't sign and signs and offer sheet with another team and is gone. end of story. update me when there's actually something going on.

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    hey, leon johnson was never the same after he tore up his knee. he was another one of those excellent players who just didn't come back whole. not comparing leon's injury to leon's but they were both major and it would be foolish of the jets to pay him more than he's worth as a player. besides, leon could almost never be a starter because he can't pass block very well. if he comes back, rex will give him 10-12 touches per game and that's plenty.

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    [QUOTE=Green Jets & Ham;3535827]+1, and yet the Jets were prepared to pay him very handsomely last year (prior to breaking his leg) regardless, but that idiot he calls an agent was holding out for Adrian Peterson money :rolleyes:

    He should have grabbed that loot in a nano second and I said that BEFORE he shattered his leg

    [B]I would have served him better as an agent than Alvin Keels[/B][/QUOTE]

    I would think that the majority of us feel the same. I feel sorry for Leon, he screwed up by not taking the Jets offer.

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    [QUOTE=PoconoJetFan;3536456]I would think that the majority of us feel the same. I feel sorry for Leon, he screwed up by not taking the Jets offer.[/QUOTE]

    Yes he did, especially because of his injury. After seeing what Keels has done with Leon, I don't know why any NFL player would ever sign with him again.

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    How is this worthy of an article? "No sh*t" comes to mind.

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    [QUOTE=Kentucky Jet;3535805]Rex doesn't see Leon as starter
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    No other NFL team does either.

    Leon & Keels were fools being hellbent on getting MJD money.

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    [QUOTE=SenorGato;3536478]How is this worthy of an article? "No sh*t" comes to mind.[/QUOTE]

    lol, exactly.

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    [QUOTE=greenwichjetfan;3535838]Tanny would be stupid to give him a big deal after this season. A 29-going on-30 year old scat back with a history of injury? Love the guy, but no thanks to tying up money and a roster spot on him. He isn't starter material now, forget one year from now...

    I genuinley feel bad for Leon. His stupidass agent royally screwed him out of a big contract, and he probably will never again see that type of opportunity.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed Leon should have fired that asswipe "agent" long ago for negligence and stupidity. Alas for his missed opportunity. Sad

    I also hope we don't see any more of these Leon/Keels threads until its resolved definitively. Its just depressing

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    This could be the core issue with Leon looking to move on. If Leon wants to be a starter and knows the CS doesn't intend to ever use him that way then you would definitely have the reason for him wanting to leave.

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    If we get a 2nd round draft pick for Leon... Dexter McCluster would be the Offensive Weapon that I would love to replace him with during the 2nd round.

    McCluster may be small, but he's a football player; This kid could be a special one, and one thing is for sure... He's one of the most explosive Offensive college athletes I've even seen.

    If not... Then I would really love for Leon Washington to come back 100% healthy as our 3rd down back, as well as our special teams return man. Leon has a place on the roster, a healthy Leon could really contribute in a major way; it's up to Leon to make the most of it.

    Take your ass into the voluntary workouts, work as hard as you can to get back to 100%, show the coaching staff that your serious about winning a ring, give it your all during the offseason training camps and overall... Thank god that you've been blessed with the chance to make millions of dollars, doing something that you've loved to do since a kid; Play Football for an NFL Franchise.

    Money is the root of all evil. Leon got greedy because of his agent and guess what happened? Karma came back two times stronger and cost Leon Millions of Dollars that he may never see again. Oh well, he's still made more money than most people will make in a lifetime.

    I'm a huge FSU fan, I remember loving the talent that Leon had with the Noles, I remember Leon winning the ACC Offensive Player of the year award with the Noles... I remember going crazy when the Jets drafted Leon during the 4th round but you know what? As a Jets fan: I would love for Leon to come back, but I would also love to replace him with an explosive talent such as Dexter McCluster during the draft.

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    [QUOTE=DefenseWinsChampionships2;3536747]I would love for Leon to come back, but I would also love to replace him with an explosive talent such as Dexter McCluster during the draft.[/QUOTE]

    That's all you had to say man ;)

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    ... funny that making 1.7mil a year has us feeling bad for him :) ...


    ... we won't know until we see it on the field but if he still has that homerun burst our rb position with be an impressive 3-headed monster next season ...


    ... going into last season we believe him to be our only hr threat ...

    ... this year we know greene & edwards are there as well ...








    l_j_r

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    [QUOTE=ljr@work;3537012]...[B] funny that making 1.7mil a year has us feeling bad for him :) ...[/B]

    l_j_r[/QUOTE]

    I understand where you're going with this, and you'd be absolutely right if this were an annual salary...

    However, as a football player, your earning power is in a very tight window frame. That $1.7mm/year is going to last how long? And after his 35th bday, what is his earning potential?

    Crash, fair enough...it may have been backloaded to your point, but even then, his agent should have been able to seek out a better deal. In all honesty, I still actually feel bad for Leon. But again, I root for the name on the front of the jersey, and if Leon doesn't fit in our plans, then take the second rounder and run like the wind...

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