I'm a Gullible Red Sox and/or Met fan
I'm going with Nomar. Still laughing at all the Red Sox fans in the late 90's and early 2000s who screamed about how much better he was than Jeter.
I'm going with Piazza. Almost every Met fan I know swears he was never juiced.
Can we just turn this forum into New York Yankees circle jerk? There is no objectivity here anymore.
Have fun rooting for ARod and Andy to carry you through the post season. I hope it was as fun as watching Giambi rack up his .400 OBPs for five years, or watching Jim Leyritz hit the HR to turn the 1996 world series, or watching Clemens in the late 90's...oh wait...
Plus unexposed is an operative word before you lump in Piazza and Nomar with some of the others. Just because you hate on a guy doesnt automatically mean he roided. If we want to talk about steroids as if they are a) something that is bad and b) a matter of suspicion, then how about Soriano, Robinson Cano, Kevin Brown etc.
Plenty of Yankees did roids - so did plenty of Red Sox and Met players. Alex Gonzalez on the D-Backs in 2001 - he basically did a metamporphosis on steroids to beat the Yankees in the WS that year.
Tons of players all over the league did roids. I don't even care anymore. Do I think Piazza did them, yep. That evens it up for Clemens pitching to him in the WS and throwing a bat at the guy.
The only player I really hold out hope for is MO. It just doesn't seem in his nature to have juiced, (not for size, but for the ability to pitch again and again).
Anyone else who juiced, no surprise. Than includes the Randy Velardes, kevin Elsters, and all the other bit players who hung around. And you know what, i would have too.
Hmmm, take roids, earn millions and millions of dollars, and be set for life, or don't and spend 6 years riding a bus in the minors.
Neither are bigger. Both are obvious. I'm 100% sure that Piazza did roids, and a bit less than that with Nomar.
And I don't blame either one. It was rampant back then - everyone did.
They all cheated. Every team. A's may have started it back in the 80's.
Pretty dumb thing for you to say.
I can understand reacting when he threw the bat at him (cowardly), but honestly, you expected him to charge when he is leveled from a beanball?
Pretty much guaranteed that both were roiders.
Among Braves greats I feel confident saying that Maddux and Glavine never juiced, Andruw Jones doesnt give enough of a crap about his body to juice, Smoltz probably did, Chipper im 50/50 on, and David Justice probably did. Amongst current braves star players, Martin Prado screams juicing, Brian McCann is a fat slob a la Andruw Jones, and Heyward probably didnt.
Last edited by hamburglar; 09-02-2010 at 11:23 AM.
I think Andruw Jones juiced. He seemed to suffer from the same itis that hit Nomar and made both of them fall off the face of the earth. It would suck if a great young player like Heyward juiced. Ditto for Strasburgh who all of a sudden now needs Tommy John surgery.
Piazza would have probably been a great offensive player without the juice but he was a spoiled b*tch who hurt his team for years with below-average defensive play at Catcher and when the Mets tried to improve themselves defensively by putting Piazza at 1B he always cried and complained like a twat.