Patfan - I think the Pats will take one of the big 3-4 DE prospects...I've said it already but I see me flipping my shyte when they land Heyward...after that I'll have to root for landing Powe/Ellis + Wilkerson. You're right that they've found some good rotation guys lately, but I think they're going to want a 3rd D1 type starter on their DL to go with Wilfork and Warren.
Last edited by JetOrange; 01-06-2011 at 01:12 PM.
If you dump Harris and a year or two down the road on these draft forms we are all talking about the critical need for an ILB then you have gone backwards not forwards imo.
I'm of the belief that if you're a LB in the 6'-6'3" 240-250 range, you can tackle, but you're not a real pass rusher at LB then there's a good chance you can turn into a good 3-4 ILB.
Scott's been our best and most steady player on D the past two seasons...probably our most underrated player even if he isn't underpaid. He's the one player we can't afford to lose. He wasn't even healthy last year and he was our best player after Revis...that's why I said ridiculous...dude blows up all running games...alllllll running games....f'n ridickilous.
Last edited by Much ado about Nothing; 01-06-2011 at 09:35 PM.
As its played out here, its pretty evident that Scott has mainly filled the role of TED, with some mixing up here or there. So, its not surprising that he hasn't really made all that many impact plays - its not his primary role, for the most part.
The problem is is that Scott is extremely overpaid for that role. You don't need a $7m/yr LB to take on Louska Politte in the hole so that Harris can come free. You can find a 2 down stout LB who is proficient in taking on a Guard/FB and then comes out on 3rd down for a couple o' mil. But, when Scott was signed, Rex was looking for more than just a MLB, he was looking for a mouthpiece, a loyal follower of his system who knows how Rex thinks and can get everyone on the same page a heckuva lot faster than without him. Same with Jim Leonhard.
Now we are in the situation of what to do now that we've committed all that money. I don't know what the market is for 3-4 MLBs right now - but I'd be surprised if its as big as what Scott got in his deal. I honestly think the Jets have no idea what will happen - it depends how the new CBA works out. But, with Scott 30 years old, and Harris 26, it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense (money aside), to get rid of the younger, more effective LB and keep the older one. In my mind, the best path forward is to figure out how to lower (or rid yourself) of Scott's $$$ in the future, simply because of his role on this team. After next year, Scott appears to have a dead money hit of $3 million. He's cuttable enough for the Jets to approach him to take a salary cut. Perhaps they'll even do that as soon as the CBA is nailed down.
Bottom line, Harris is a better and younger player than Scott. He had somewhat of a down year, statistics-wise, which bodes somewhat well for the Jets bargaining position. But, that fact that the team voted him MVP demonstrates how valued the team thinks he is. I don't think the team will walk away from him so willingly.
Last edited by crasherino; 01-07-2011 at 09:53 AM.
I'll stick with my previous statement, unless there is a damn good reason to downgrade your talent at a position don't do it. (And inserting Westerman for Harris is a downgrade.) Hey is Harris is asking for the sun the moon and the stars and you can't resign him fine, but your still going to be weaker at the ILB spot if you punt him.
Our DL does a good job against the runs, but we also ask our ILBs, especially Scott, to help out there more than I'm guessing they'd like to.
Crash, as far as Scott being overpaid that's subjective...I don't believe Harris could do what Scott does for this D, and if he could I don't believe he'd do it as well...I maintain that Scott is our most consistently dominant player in the front 7 and our best player against the run...and that's just what he's done here...don't forget in Baltimore under Rex he's also a guy who threw up a 9 sack season and he's got 3 career INTs...he's a guy who's entirely capable of making plays.
Last edited by Much ado about Nothing; 01-07-2011 at 10:43 AM.
For those interested in the PFF grading system, since I reference it a lot, take a look: http://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/
You can see why I'd trust their system
Last edited by TheMo; 01-07-2011 at 11:25 AM.
Will Muschamp appears to have already won his first major recruiting battle -- convincing star junior cornerback Janoris Jenkins to return to Gainesville for his senior season.
"Gator Nation, I'm back..." read an entry from "jenkz1," posted around 5 PM this afternoon.
A source with intimate knowledge of the situation, confirms to Swamp247 that Jenkins plans to return for his senior season.
"He is coming back," the source said. "Will Muschamp did a heck of a job recruiting him [to return to Florida]."
According to the source, a multitude of factors impacted Jenkins' decision to come back. Not the least of those reasons was a torn labrum, suffered in the season-opener against Miami of Ohio on Sept. 4th.
"That really opened things up," the source said of the shoulder injury that Jenkins suffered. "He can even lift his arm right now"
Jenkins had surgery to correct the injury, which kept him out of Florida's 37-24 win over Penn State in the Outback Bowl on Jan. 1st.
Other factors playing into Jenkins' apparent decision to return? A grade from the NFL Draft Advisory Board which apparently was not as high as originally expected.
"The 2nd/3rd round grade concerned him," the source told Swamp247 of the feedback Jenkins had received from the NFL. Several NFL Draft analysts -- including Mel Kiper of ESPN -- have given Jenkins first-round grades for April's NFL Draft.
The potential of an impending NFL lockout by the owners also weighed on Jenkins' decision to return to Florida. However, it seems the chance to help redeem the 2010 season in Will Muschamp's rookie campaign is a strong motivating factor for Jenkins as well.
"[Janoris] wants to go out on the right note," the source told Swamp247. "He wants to win an SEC Championship, he wants to be All-America, and he wants to bring the Jim Thorpe Award back home to Gainesville."
GGI 1 CBTNY 1000