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    Our Pakistani "Allies"

    Killings of newborn babies on the rise in Pakistan
    by Hasan Mansoor Hasan Mansoor
    Mon Jan 17, 2:40 am ET

    .KARACHI (AFP) The lifeless bodies of two tiny babies are being given their final bath before burial in Karachi, after they were left to die in the southern Pakistani city's garbage dumps.

    "They can only have been one or two days old," says volunteer worker Mohammad Saleem, pointing at the two small corpses being gently washed by his colleagues at a charity's morgue.

    In the conservative Muslim nation, where the birth of children outside of marriage is condemned and adultery is a crime punishable by death under strict interpretations of Islamic law, infanticide is a crime on the rise.

    More than 1,000 infants -- most of them girls -- were killed or abandoned to die in Pakistan last year according to conservative estimates by the Edhi Foundation, a charity working to reverse the grim trend.

    The infanticide figures are collected only from Pakistan's main cities, leaving out huge swathes of the largely rural nation, and the charity says that in December alone it found 40 dead babies left in garbage dumps and sewers.

    The number of dead infants found last year -- 1,210 -- was up from 890 in 2008 and 999 in 2009, says the Edhi Foundation manager in Karachi, Anwar Kazmi.

    Tragic tales abound.

    Kazmi recounts the discovery of the burnt body of a six-day-old infant who had been strangled. Another child was found on the steps of a mosque having been stoned to death on the orders of an extremist imam who has since disappeared, he says.

    "Do not murder, lay them here," reads a sign hanging outside the charity's Karachi base where it has left cradles in the hope that parents will abandon their unwanted children there, instead of leaving them to die.

    "People leave these children mostly because they think they are illegitimate, but they are as innocent and loveable as all human beings," says the charity's founder, well-known humanitarian Abdul Sattar Edhi.

    Most children found are less than a week old.

    Khair Mohammad, 65, works as a watchman in the charity's vast graveyard in the city outskirts. It is dotted with tiny unnamed graves.

    "We acquired this land to bury children after another plot was filled with hundreds of bodies," he says.

    The death toll is far worse among girls, says manager Kazmi, with nine out of ten dead babies the charity finds being female.

    "The number of infanticides of girls has substantially increased," Kazmi says, a rise attributed to increased poverty across the country.

    Girls are seen by many Pakistanis as a greater economic burden as most women are not permitted to work and are considered to be the financial responsibilty of their fathers, and later their husbands.

    A Pakistani family can be forced to raise more than one million rupees (11,700 dollars) to marry their daughter off.

    Edhi says that up to 200 babies are left in its 400 cradles nationwide each year and that it handles thousands of requests for adoption by childless couples.

    Abortion is prohibited in Pakistan, except when the mother's life is at risk from her pregnancy, but advocates say that legalisation would reduce infanticide and save mothers from potentially fatal back-street terminations.

    According to Pakistani law, anyone found to have abandoned an infant can be jailed for seven years, while anyone guilty of secretly burying a child can be imprisoned for two years. Murder is punishable with life imprisonment.

    But crimes of infanticide are rarely prosecuted.

    "The majority of police stations do not register cases of infanticide, let alone launch investigations into them," said lawyer Abdul Rasheed

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    When it comes to the religion of p*ss, nothing surprises me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanPatsFan View Post
    When it comes to the religion of p*ss, nothing surprises me....
    Yes because poor Christians have never done anything like this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    Yes because poor Christians have never done anything like this.

    That was a few hundred years ago...while far from perfect we've evolved a bit more than them since.

    You really want to be ticked off read about the Afghans having harems of young boys...that's the norm over there. Some of the US troops were more horrified about this than battle. Absolutely disgusting.
    Last edited by PatriotReign; 01-18-2011 at 07:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotReign View Post
    That was a few hundred years ago...while far from perfect we've evolved a bit more than them since.

    You really want to be ticked off read about the Afghans having harems of young boys...that's the norm over there. Some of the US troops were more horrified about this than battle. Absolutely disgusting.


    My point is that a few hundred years ago our ancestors were as poor as present day Pakistanis and were dominated by a clergy much as present day Pakistanis are.

    The human race really sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanPatsFan View Post
    When it comes to the religion of p*ss, nothing surprises me....
    I've decided to lock this thread because of this comment.

    There's nothing wrong with the thread per se, the topic is a sad state of affairs and global current events is something we should all always be aware of, so Jet Engine did nothing wrong in posting about it.

    A comment like this, however, does not belong in civil discourse.

    It's true that many atrocities happen under the guise of Islam, but seeing as how it is the single largest religion in the world (I think), I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that these terrible things are the exception, not the norm.

    From time to time there's a lot of Muslim bashing on this forum and frankly it has to stop. I know for a fact that it turns a lot of posters off, and we've actually lost one or two good posters all together because of the heavy-handed vitriol that is commonly directed towards Muslims.

    Simply put, hate speech on here is not tolerated, and the post above by Dean is nothing but.

    Consider this a warning.

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