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    Forcing people to buy health insurance is like forcing the homeless to buy a house...

    just ask obozo...video at link....

    [QUOTE]Long before his administration went into federal court to fight 27 states that are now challenging the constitutionality of the federal government forcing people to buy health insurance, then-presidential candidate Barack Obama told Ellen DeGeneres that—unlike his opponent Hillary Clinton—he opposed forcing the uninsured to buy health insurance, saying that it would be like forcing the homeless to buy homes.

    “Both of us want to provide health care to all Americans. There’s a slight difference, and her plan is a good one. But, she mandates that everybody buy health care. She’d have the government force every individual to buy insurance and I don’t have such a mandate because I don’t think the problem is that people don’t want health insurance, it’s that they can’t afford it,” Obama said in a Feb. 28, 2008 appearance on Ellen DeGeneres' television show. “So, I focus more on lowering costs. This is a modest difference. But, it’s one that she’s tried to elevate, arguing that because I don’t force people to buy health care that I’m not insuring everybody. Well, if things were that easy, I could mandate everybody to buy a house, and that would solve the problem of homelessness. It doesn’t."[/QUOTE]

    [url]http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/federal-judge-cites-quotes-president-rul[/url]

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3947421]just ask obozo...video at link....



    [url]http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/federal-judge-cites-quotes-president-rul[/url][/QUOTE]

    In all fairness, its what the noted Statesman Ellen Degeneres wanted to hear then.

    THey are good at that.:rolleyes:

    Saying what sounds right, to the right audience.

    Now the truth, reality...to a broader audience...is a little harder to pull off as we are now seeing.

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    there is a vocal minority against Obamacare. Most people want the reforms in the bill, and aren't going to yell about it cause it's a settled issue.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;3947932]there is a vocal minority against Obamacare. Most people want the reforms in the bill, and aren't going to yell about it cause it's a settled issue.[/QUOTE]

    Well there it is.


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    [QUOTE=32green;3947936]Well there it is.


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    notice the obama lies are once again dismissed by the faithful...of course minority to obama disciples = >50% and/or > than the majority...:yes:
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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3947942]notice the obama lies are once again dismissed by the faithful...of course minority to obama disciples = >50% and/or > than the majority...:yes:[/QUOTE]

    Didn't he clear all of this up on The View and Springer? :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=cr726;3947957]Didn't he clear all of this up on The View and Springer? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    as previously posted, the obama lies are once again dismissed by the faithful....:yes:

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3947965]as previously posted, the obama lies are once again dismissed by the faithful....:yes:[/QUOTE]

    You mean something the President talked about on a daytime talk show didn't happen? Holy sh*t! This is the smoking gun you have been waiting for!!!!! Get em!

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    [IMG]http://www.gifsoup.com/view/234608/obama-dancing-on-ellen-o.gif[/IMG]

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;3947992][IMG]http://www.gifsoup.com/view/234608/obama-dancing-on-ellen-o.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]

    HOLY SH*T!!! Another lie has been uncovered!!!! Obama said he could dance!!! Good Work Durden!!!!!

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    [QUOTE=cr726;3947978]You mean something the President talked about on a daytime talk show didn't happen? Holy sh*t! This is the smoking gun you have been waiting for!!!!! Get em![/QUOTE]

    makes sense- only GOP "lies" are of consequence to the extreme left....

    still waiting for a coherent response from an obama disciple....the next one will be in a few weeks when he demands the debt limit be raised...:yes:

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;3947932]there is a vocal minority against Obamacare. Most people want the reforms in the bill, and aren't going to yell about it cause it's a settled issue.[/QUOTE]

    I've heard that also. :yes:

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;3947992][IMG]http://www.gifsoup.com/view/234608/obama-dancing-on-ellen-o.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]

    MY GOD - HE DANCES LIKE A WHITE MAN! :eek:

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    Forcing people to buy healthcare is like forcing motorists to buy car insurance.

    Oh wait.

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;3948116]Forcing people to buy healthcare is like forcing motorists to buy car insurance.

    Oh wait.[/QUOTE]

    Please....that's a tired argument.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;3948121]Please....that's a tired argument.[/QUOTE]

    OK, its liking making me buy a motorcycle helmet.

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;3948145]OK, its liking making me buy a motorcycle helmet.[/QUOTE]Seatbelt?

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;3948121]Please....that's a tired argument.[/QUOTE]

    However, a valid one.

    I understand the differences in the scenarios, but I fail to see how "second level" mandates are so very different from "direct" mandates. An argument can be made that if one is illegal / unconstitutional than all of them should be illegal / unconstitutional.

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    You can't make people pay for something they dont want. Even Obama said that before he was elected.

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    [QUOTE=parafly;3948167]However, a valid one.

    I understand the differences in the scenarios, but I fail to see how "second level" mandates are so very different from "direct" mandates. An argument can be made that if one is illegal / unconstitutional than all of them should be illegal / unconstitutional.[/QUOTE]

    not even close considering that:

    1- federal mandate versus state mandate...

    2- not every state requires auto insurance...

    3- in the states that require auto insurance the mandate is not thrown on everyone, just those who decide to own a car...

    but hey- thems the facts...

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