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    [QUOTE=bitonti;3958735]the GOp talks a good game, lets see if they really have the stones to cut entitlements.[/QUOTE]

    Brilliantly mirrored by the fact the Dems also talk a good game about the deficit, and (like their Republican counterparts) lack to stones to cut anything at all, and instead increase spending over and over.

    Lets face it Bit, neither party is truly interested in cutting spending in a meaningful way, especially when in power or on the cusp of retaking power. Too many wheels need greased for that.

    Sadly, I think you like the idea of more spending. Not sure there is an upper limit on tax rates and spending you'd find fault with tbh.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;3958756]NOT the lazy bloated who go there for "The bennies".[/quote]

    Anyone who tells you they choose their job and ignored the payrate/benefits is either:

    A. A ****ign liar.

    B. Already wealthy enough to enjoy such opportunity.

    There is no C option, and painint folsk who care about their own pay/bennies so broadly, as "lazy bloats" is exactly why I made teh comment above I did.

    [quote]We talk budgets..but the reality is 70 percent of government costs are people costs once we leave infrastructure and DOD. i.e. There can be NO meaningful reduction in deficit unless government is made smaller and people costs are made like private co's. That is, less people. No IF's AND's or BUT's.[/QUOTE]

    How about ending two unproductive foreign wars, and making drastic cuts in Millitary/DOD spending? Think that might help too?

    I do.

    How about we end teh Wars, and spend some of that savings on our souther border/immigration reform/enforcement? I like that idea.

    And sure, we also have to make Govt. Efficient, I agree completely. But fixing our problems is far more widespead that just making the manpower of Govt, efficient. It's a deeper and wider problem than that, as any post from tax n' spend Bitonti proves.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;3958759]Bush happened. The TSA, Larger Dept of education, Dept of Energy etc... HE was a spending nightmare "white knuckle drunk" to quote Martin Sheehan.[/QUOTE]

    Is there a coorelation between the Federal tax cuts and the states money issues?

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;3958763]
    Lets face it Bit, neither party is truly interested in cutting spending in a meaningful way, especially when in power or on the cusp of retaking power. Too many wheels need greased for that.

    Sadly, I think you like the idea of more spending. Not sure there is an upper limit on tax rates and spending you'd find fault with tbh.[/QUOTE]

    honestly I don't see why the deficit is some scary terrible thing. Reagan had huge deficits and everyone loved Reagan. It's a fun topic to talk about but the gov't is not like the average consumer. The gov't doesn't NEED to balance their checkbook. When the world stops buying US debt it's time for concern... but that doesn't seem to be the case.

    Most voters love to talk about deficit reduction but if you rephrase the poll question and ask them specifically, what to cut, and how much, the public really has no stomach for any cuts. that goes for both sides. GOP base doesn't want to cut medicare or military. Dem base doesn't want to cut entitlements or social security. no one really wants cuts but we all want deficit reduction.... oh yeah we also want job creation, without raising taxes.

    How is that possible?

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;3958790]honestly I don't see why the deficit is some scary terrible thing. Reagan had huge deficits and everyone loved Reagan. It's a fun topic to talk about but the gov't is not like the average consumer. [B]The gov't doesn't NEED to balance their checkbook. When the world stops buying US debt it's time for concern... but that doesn't seem to be the case. [/B]
    Most voters love to talk about deficit reduction but if you rephrase the poll question and ask them specifically, what to cut, and how much, the public really has no stomach for any cuts. that goes for both sides. GOP base doesn't want to cut medicare or military. Dem base doesn't want to cut entitlements or social security. no one really wants cuts but we all want deficit reduction.... oh yeah we also want job creation, without raising taxes.

    How is that possible?[/QUOTE]

    30 years T bonds did NOT sell well in the last auction. I believe this is the beginning of the time for real concern.

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    [url]http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/the_disability_scam_aplDRASyghguqxzMYAH41N[/url]

    good article from last summer on the FDNY's disability SCAM that's helping to bankrupt the state.

    Last year, 80% of FDNY retiree's did so on "disability"- gimmee a break, it's a rigged welfare game.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;3958790]honestly I don't see why the deficit is some scary terrible thing. Reagan had huge deficits and everyone loved Reagan. It's a fun topic to talk about but the gov't is not like the average consumer. The gov't doesn't NEED to balance their checkbook. When the world stops buying US debt it's time for concern... but that doesn't seem to be the case.

    Most voters love to talk about deficit reduction but if you rephrase the poll question and ask them specifically, what to cut, and how much, the public really has no stomach for any cuts. that goes for both sides. GOP base doesn't want to cut medicare or military. Dem base doesn't want to cut entitlements or social security. no one really wants cuts but we all want deficit reduction.... oh yeah we also want job creation, without raising taxes.

    How is that possible?[/QUOTE]

    Reagan deficits as a % of GDP wasn't even in the same ball park. You would have to go back to WW2 to get to the deficits Obama is running.

    If you asked the public would you take a retirenment a year or two later or had to choose between food and gas in two years they might have a different view.

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;3958885][url]http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/the_disability_scam_aplDRASyghguqxzMYAH41N[/url]

    good article from last summer on the FDNY's disability SCAM that's helping to bankrupt the state.

    Last year, 80% of FDNY retiree's did so on "disability"- gimmee a break, it's a rigged welfare game.[/QUOTE]

    [B]80 percent of FDNY effectively do NOT work 20 years, retire on 75 percent of their "inflated final 3 year salary" and then drop off the tax system. These 3/4 retirements are tax free. Biggest scam in the city.....[/B]

    They have been cited by both Cuomo and Bloomberg as abusive.

    They then run marathons, work other jobs, swim etc...

    Here in Charlotte and many other cities this does not happen. It is nothing but abuse by the entitlement minded.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;3958914][B]80 percent of FDNY effectively do NOT work 20 years, retire on 75 percent of their "inflated final 3 year salary" and then drop off the tax system. These 3/4 retirements are tax free. Biggest scam in the city.....[/B]

    They have been cited by both Cuomo and Bloomberg as abusive.

    They then run marathons, work other jobs, swim etc...

    Here in Charlotte and many other cities this does not happen. It is nothing but abuse by the entitlement minded.[/QUOTE]

    It's the biggest problem that NY, NJ & CA have right now.....nothing else is even close- Let's have all 80% of these disabled YOUNG men back to non-FDNY affiliated doctors to see how their "disabilities" are doing...& pull/significantly reduce the pensions from these scam artists....

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;3958938]It's the biggest problem that NY, NJ & CA have right now.....nothing else is even close- Let's have all 80% of these disabled YOUNG men back to non-FDNY affiliated doctors to see how their "disabilities" are doing...& pull/significantly reduce the pensions from these scam artists....[/QUOTE]

    Yeah!!

    They keep crying about "9-11" injuries.

    Suck it up.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;3958914][B]80 percent of FDNY effectively do NOT work 20 years, retire on 75 percent of their "inflated final 3 year salary" and then drop off the tax system. These 3/4 retirements are tax free. Biggest scam in the city.....[/B]

    They have been cited by both Cuomo and Bloomberg as abusive.

    They then run marathons, work other jobs, swim etc...

    Here in Charlotte and many other cities this does not happen. It is nothing but abuse by the entitlement minded.[/QUOTE]

    How could this happen under Rudy?

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    [QUOTE=cr726;3958394]Beck thinks the US is going to have a revolution after all the nutty people band together in Europe.[/QUOTE]

    Americans are too lazy to vote in an off-year election. Does he really think the masses will take the time to stop playing xbox and go to the city square and revolt?

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    I never thought that I'm ever gonna say that Bill O'Reilly is the voice of reason. But holy... Beck is nuts. I don't even know where to start. Where does all this communism-talk come from? Even China went away from communism to what they call "socialist free market economy". I don't know in what world that guy lives in.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;3959450]How could this happen under Rudy?[/QUOTE]

    Same reason it's not BIG news today as it should be. Politicians run scared from public employee unions. Especially those under the umbrella "Public Safety".

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    [QUOTE=Raug;3959681]I never thought that I'm ever gonna say that Bill O'Reilly is the voice of reason. But holy... Beck is nuts. I don't even know where to start. Where does all this communism-talk come from? Even China went away from communism to what they call "socialist free market economy". I don't know in what world that guy lives in.[/QUOTE]


    OKAY, call it an "unaffordable Euro-style welfare state"...because that's what he's after...

    Not ONE idea from the "bi-partisan" deficit commission was taken up by B Hussein in his budget, fyi...

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;3959688]OKAY, call it an "unaffordable Euro-style welfare state"...because that's what he's after...
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    Fair enough, but that is a) not communism, not even close. And b) very affordable: the national deficit (as percent of GDP) of all European states except Italy, Greece and Belgium is below the one of the USA. And even though it picked up in recent years in some countries like Spain, others like Sweden or Finland were able to reduce their deficit.

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    [QUOTE=Raug;3959857]Fair enough, but that is a) not communism, not even close. And b) very affordable: the national deficit (as percent of GDP) of all European states except Italy, Greece and Belgium is below the one of the USA. And even though it picked up in recent years in some countries like Spain, others like Sweden or Finland were able to reduce their deficit.[/QUOTE]

    Spain's debt has only "picked up in recent years"???

    Ireland?

    Greece?

    Europe is going through a debt crisis that is bad as it's ever been, & it's born of the European welfare state entitlements...(& a culture that is used to sucking off the govt nipple).

    Didn't England & France recently have riots associated with public education & the retirement age being raised slightly? Isn't that what Obama wants??? To get the USA used to the entitlement culture? That's how I see it.

    His press conference today was terrible. he doesn't do well "on his feet" at all...sh*tty President

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    Ireland haa an actual deficit of 64% GDP, compared to 82% of the USA (both numbers fomr 2009). Also, Japan was leading with 190%(!!!) while Greece was only around 115%, which helps understanding one fact: Deficit is irrelevant as long as people lend you money.

    I'd like to note though that Greece, Spain (which broke down starting 2009 thanks to the global crisis that started in the US, their deficit skyrocketed from 39% 2008 to 53% 2009) and Ireland are not the countries that I would associate with "European welfare state". There I'd go with the northern ones, who are mostly doing quite well.

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