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    Don't forget OLB Cody Brown...

    Getting him is like getting a solid draft pick for free, the Jets signed him to a future contract in January so that tells me the team feels fairly good about him, any UConn fans here? Anyway here's something I scooped up on Brown:


    [url]http://www.azcardinals.com/photos-videos/videos/Cody-Brown-Highlights/e979c24b-8b16-11de-8e35-0ee8612ec13e[/url]

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    He's like Carl BAnks!:rolleyes: Teams sign like 30 players to future contracts..that doesn't mean anything..

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    [QUOTE=bman;3987524]He's like Carl BAnks!:rolleyes: Teams sign like 30 players to future contracts..that doesn't mean anything..[/QUOTE]




    Well we've had him since the start of the season when we also took Gilbert and Dixon and he stayed with the team, that tells me the team likes him otherwise he would've been let go. Brown is not an UDFA type, he was drafted 63rd overall by AZ, so he's a known quantiy as is Gilbert. Can he make the transition to OLB? That's the tough part, but at least he's got a year in his beltwith us. I also expect Westerman to take on more of an active role now.

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    Why the hell are so many people banking on these complete unknowns like Cody Brown, Jammal Westerman, Martin Teveseu, Jarron Gilbert, etc?

    The only backup along the DL or LB corps that has shown flashes of being even a decent rotational player is Marcus Dixon. That's it.

    I know we have the training camp wonder in Pitoitua, but what the hell has the guy done in meaningful playing time?


    I can pretty much guarantee that the Jets draft a front seven player in the 1st round. Be it a passrushing OLB, a 5-tech DE, or a NT like Phil Taylor. It's pretty obvious to anyone with a set of eyeballs that some more youth and athleticism needs to be added up front before we have a total clusterf*ck on our hands.

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    [QUOTE=Untouchable;3987664]Why the hell are so many people banking on these complete unknowns like Cody Brown, Jammal Westerman, Martin Teveseu, Jarron Gilbert, etc?

    The only backup along the DL or LB corps that has shown flashes of being even a decent rotational player is Marcus Dixon. That's it.

    I know we have the training camp wonder in Pitoitua, but what the hell has the guy done in meaningful playing time?


    I can pretty much guarantee that the Jets draft a front seven player in the 1st round. Be it a passrushing OLB, a 5-tech DE, or a NT like Phil Taylor. It's pretty obvious to anyone with a set of eyeballs that some more youth and athleticism needs to be added up front before we have a total clusterf*ck on our hands.[/QUOTE]

    I think you reflect the general consensus, the Jets need to draft a defensive front seven guy. Talent at 30 is the primary consideration, but a possible determining factor on wether the Jets go OLB, DE or NT, is how they feel about Gilbert, MTV, Dixon, Brown and Westerman. IMO Brown and Westerman have more potential, I also like the fact that the Jets will use a 3rd Safety as a LB, couple that with the post that Ham had about a week ago demonstrating that there would seem to be more talent at 30 at DE/DT indicates that the Jets will draft a DE at 30...
    Last edited by JetOrange; 03-25-2011 at 07:27 AM.

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    ... his highlight reel does show him off as a slimmer sleeker collegiate lavar arrington ...

    ... not sure about the competiion level he was playing against ... but did like the speed and ball awareness he showed in those clips ...










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    In response to the poster as to why we are talking about players that havent done anything, the answer is its the offseason, there is no free agency, and its all we have.

    That being said, Cody Brown is a very interesting player and is an excellent guy to have grabbed when he was released. Former 2nd round pick who was given no time to develop in arizona, nor didt hey even try to give him a legitimate shot at a position. He is a perfect player to develop from a college DE to a 3-4 OLB. Speed, pass rush ability and the college numbers to back up his potential. First team all conference (yes it was the Big East) as well.

    We obviously have no idea if he is the next james harrison or if he will be coaching his high school team next year, but every once in a while one of these guys pans out.Below is his scouting report from the 2009 draft....


    2007: Brown starts all 13 games and leads the defensive line with 50 total tackles including 16.5 tackles-for-loss and 7.5 sacks.

    2008. Brown starts 12 of the 13 games he appears in accumulating 56 tackles, 16.5 tackles-for-loss, 11 sacks and eight pass breakups.

    [B]Instincts/Recognition[/B] - Recognition skills are improving and did an excellent job of getting hands up when saw quarterback start throwing motion last year but still takes too long to locate the ball at times. Doesn't do a great job of recognizing down blocks and tight ends can drive him down the line of scrimmage.

    [B]Pursuit/Point of Attack [/B]- Excellent upper body strength, flashes a mean streak and tougher than size suggests. Motor runs hot and cold making mental toughness a concern. Flashes the ability to slip blocks quickly and disrupt running plays in the backfield. Flashes the ability to set the edge working against tight end but lower-body strength is marginal at best on film. Gets engulfed by offensive tackles too much and going to have problems holding ground when teams commit two blockers to him.

    [B]Tackling [/B]- Inconsistent open field tackler but he shows adequate body control in space and flashes the ability to deliver the big hit.

    [B]Pass Coverage[/B] - Very good initial quickness and closing burst. Agile and shows good lateral mobility. Some stiffness in hips but seems fluid enough to transition to rush-linebacker.

    [B]Pass Rusher[/B] - Displays the first-step quickness necessary to turn the corner in the NFL, shows better closing speed than timed speed suggests and can deliver the big hits when gets to the quarterback. Can redirect inside after starting outside. Active hands and does an adequate job of keeping blockers' hands off him but takes too long to disengage when blockers do get their hands on him.

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    Is Shawn Crable still a part of the Jets in some capacity?

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    [QUOTE=David Harris;3987875]Is Shawn Crable still a part of the Jets in some capacity?[/QUOTE]

    Don't believe so..

    [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Crable[/URL]

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    ugh... another #50... moral of the story is don't draft a player who wore 50 in college.

    But, I do admit Brown looks a lot more fluid than the other 50.

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    [QUOTE=eaglenj;3987741]In response to the poster as to why we are talking about players that havent done anything, the answer is its the offseason, there is no free agency, and its all we have.

    That being said, Cody Brown is a very interesting player and is an excellent guy to have grabbed when he was released. Former 2nd round pick who was given no time to develop in arizona, nor didt hey even try to give him a legitimate shot at a position. He is a perfect player to develop from a college DE to a 3-4 OLB. Speed, pass rush ability and the college numbers to back up his potential. First team all conference (yes it was the Big East) as well.

    We obviously have no idea if he is the next james harrison or if he will be coaching his high school team next year, but every once in a while one of these guys pans out.Below is his scouting report from the 2009 draft....


    2007: Brown starts all 13 games and leads the defensive line with 50 total tackles including 16.5 tackles-for-loss and 7.5 sacks.

    2008. Brown starts 12 of the 13 games he appears in accumulating 56 tackles, 16.5 tackles-for-loss, 11 sacks and eight pass breakups.

    [B]Instincts/Recognition[/B] - Recognition skills are improving and did an excellent job of getting hands up when saw quarterback start throwing motion last year but still takes too long to locate the ball at times. Doesn't do a great job of recognizing down blocks and tight ends can drive him down the line of scrimmage.

    [B]Pursuit/Point of Attack [/B]- Excellent upper body strength, flashes a mean streak and tougher than size suggests. Motor runs hot and cold making mental toughness a concern. Flashes the ability to slip blocks quickly and disrupt running plays in the backfield. Flashes the ability to set the edge working against tight end but lower-body strength is marginal at best on film. Gets engulfed by offensive tackles too much and going to have problems holding ground when teams commit two blockers to him.

    [B]Tackling [/B]- Inconsistent open field tackler but he shows adequate body control in space and flashes the ability to deliver the big hit.

    [B]Pass Coverage[/B] - Very good initial quickness and closing burst. Agile and shows good lateral mobility. Some stiffness in hips but seems fluid enough to transition to rush-linebacker.

    [B]Pass Rusher[/B] - Displays the first-step quickness necessary to turn the corner in the NFL, shows better closing speed than timed speed suggests and can deliver the big hits when gets to the quarterback. Can redirect inside after starting outside. Active hands and does an adequate job of keeping blockers' hands off him but takes too long to disengage when blockers do get their hands on him.[/QUOTE]

    Great response and very informative. I get tired of the naysayers who never have a decent word to say. I love the fact that Mr.T and Rex look under every rock for talent. Only to hear some doom and gloomers mock it. If we do find a gem under a rock, these types of naysayers will still not be happy. Go CODY BROWN shut some of these guys UP!

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    [QUOTE=Kentucky Jet;3988044]Great response and very informative. I get tired of the naysayers who never have a decent word to say. I love the fact that Mr.T and Rex look under every rock for talent. Only to hear some doom and gloomers mock it. If we do find a gem under a rock, these types of naysayers will still not be happy. Go CODY BROWN shut some of these guys UP![/QUOTE]

    and then they turn around and question / rip the Jets for not trying him out and/or signing the guy

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    why do teams sign tons of udfa's? because every once in a while they strike some serious paydirt like bart scott or james harrison. sometimes the players just aren't big enough in college to raise eyebrows but become better as they get older. this also applies to veteran players. who would've thought that vinny would've been so good if you just looked at tampa bay? how about doug williams before the redskins? jim plunkett before the raiders? it's all about being in the right place at the right time and working hard.

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    they sign UDFAs because at seasons end, they only have 53 players plus 8 practice squadders --- they lose a few players through retirement or releases which brings this down to about 47 --- the draft is only seven rounds so that brings totals things up to about 55

    the bodies needed for TC are 80 so there is a need to add guys waived from other teams and rookies that fall through the cracks in the draft. There used to be 17 draft rounds in the old days of the Joe Walton training camps with 130 players

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    Brown's got enough talent to make himself legitimately interesting.

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    [QUOTE=sameoldjets;3988351]why do teams sign tons of udfa's? because every once in a while they strike some serious paydirt like bart scott or james harrison. sometimes the players just aren't big enough in college to raise eyebrows but become better as they get older. this also applies to veteran players. who would've thought that vinny would've been so good if you just looked at tampa bay? how about doug williams before the redskins? jim plunkett before the raiders? it's all about being in the right place at the right time and working hard.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed, we unearthed guys like de vito and moore who are more than passable starters. who's to say we won't hit pay dirt again with this crop?

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    [QUOTE=FijiJet;3988420]Agreed, we unearthed guys like de vito and moore who are more than passable starters. who's to say we won't hit pay dirt again with this crop?[/QUOTE]

    Exactly. Im excited to see Brown make some noise this preseason (if we have one) and see how he is coming along. I like the chances that between Westerman and Brown that atleast one of these guys will be a solid rotational player with some upside for us in 2011.

    Not to say you dont draft a pass rusher in the 1st round, especially if the right one falls, as you can never have enough pass rushers. Still its nice to see that Tannenbaum and Rex are looking under every rock trying to find the next James Harrison or Bart Scott.

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