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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4002347]lolz...

    trust me, brother...I've probably read the bible more than anyone here (cover to cover 6 times to be exact). I've given bible sermons in front of crowds of 60,000+ people. I had to give a sermon based on a few chapters of the Song of Solomon(soft core porn) when I was 14...that pretty much sucked.

    After all that, I arrived to the conclusion that I'll take my chances with the big guy alone and don't need fouled up organized religion to represent me in any way, shape or form. I don't need to go into a puny manmade building every Sunday and "praise" him. He's not that vain.

    Besides. The drunk harlot riding the wild beasts back? Organized religion. The "good book" says that the path to righteousness is small and narrow with few people on it. So, belonging to one of the largest religions in the world......probably not the right path, doncha think?[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=shakin318;4002367]My upbringing led me to absolutely despise [U]organized [/U]religion, yet still keep my faith in my own way, without relying on other humans to interpret things for me. It's a big business run by hypocrites, with a layer of freaky brainwashed radicals laid on top for good measure. So if you feel like trashing organized religion, that works for me. But it seems you like taking your shots at God himself, which doesn't really jibe with what you're saying above.[/QUOTE]


    First let me say I love reading PK's posts in religious threads. So funny and so true.

    I'd say my beliefs are similar to shakin's. I believe there's SOMETHING out there, but it sure as f*ck isn't what organized religion says it is.

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    [QUOTE=sourceworx;4003892]First let me say I love reading PK's posts in religious threads. So funny and so true.[/QUOTE]

    I worship PK.

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    [QUOTE=sourceworx;4003892]First let me say I love reading PK's posts in religious threads. So funny and so true.

    I'd say my beliefs are similar to shakin's. I believe there's SOMETHING out there, but it sure as f*ck isn't what organized religion says it is.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed. Or that all those religions/spiritual practices/shamans, etc are somehow touching the same thing... and whatever that thing is it's more than any one religion has "dreamt of in their philosophies" to quote Hamlet. I personally find the idea that God is synonymous with the laws of the universe a pleasing view. If so, science, art, psychology, religion, etc. all are in pursuit of the same goal: ultimate truth. If one guy gets at it through the symbol of a dead guy on a cross, or by making a pilgrimage to a rock in Mecca, by composing a symphony, or by studying smashed atoms in an accelerator, it's all good. When you get one traveler insisting his path is the ONLY one, the problem of organized religion rears its ugly head. JMHO.

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    ps I believe in intelligent design, yet I also believe in evolution and realize that the universe is millions if not billions of years old. Most believe the two can't co-exist.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4004046]Agreed. Or that all those religions/spiritual practices/shamans, etc are somehow touching the same thing... and whatever that thing is it's more than any one religion has "dreamt of in their philosophies" to quote Hamlet. I personally find the idea that God is synonymous with the laws of the universe a pleasing view. If so, science, art, psychology, religion, etc. all are in pursuit of the same goal: ultimate truth. If one guy gets at it through the symbol of a dead guy on a cross, or by making a pilgrimage to a rock in Mecca, by composing a symphony, or by studying smashed atoms in an accelerator, it's all good. When you get one traveler insisting his path is the ONLY one, the problem of organized religion rears its ugly head. JMHO.[/QUOTE]

    But then what of the theory of the power of collective thought? I have read that a reason that organised religion is needed it that it focuses many people on the same purpose and that "power of collective thought" is what makes it all work.

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    [QUOTE=sourceworx;4003892]First let me say I love reading PK's posts in religious threads. So funny and so true.

    I'd say my beliefs are similar to shakin's. I believe there's SOMETHING out there, but it sure as f*ck isn't what organized religion says it is.[/QUOTE]

    Not empty quoting.

    +1 to you, and the PK and Shakin quotes in your post.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4004070]But then what of the theory of the power of collective thought? I have read that a reason that organised religion is needed it that it focuses many people on the same purpose and that "power of collective thought" is what makes it all work.[/QUOTE]

    How exactly are these thoughts being collected? Are they happening at the same time of the day? Are they the same thoughts? Are they focused on the same goal? Work toward what precisely? I would have an easier time believing in the effects of ones astrological sign than the power of collective thought. What goes on in human heads is about as organized and sensible as the racket of a one-man band. :)

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4004102]How exactly are these thoughts being collected? Are they happening at the same time of the day? Are they the same thoughts? Are they focused on the same goal? Work toward what precisely? I would have an easier time believing in the effects of ones astrological sign than the power of collective thought. What goes on in human heads is about as organized and sensible as the racket of a one-man band. :)[/QUOTE]

    I'm with you. The idea is that prayer as a group is what is concentrating it.

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    [QUOTE=FF2;4003962]I worship PK.[/QUOTE]

    One day with the Taxmaster avatar and I'm amassing followers. :D

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    [QUOTE=shakin318;4004062]ps I believe in intelligent design, yet I also believe in evolution and realize that the universe is millions if not billions of years old. [B]Most believe the two can't co-exist.[/B][/QUOTE]

    Closed-minded people.

    And I want to let it be known that not everything associated with organized religion is bad. I recognize and respect the good it has done (feeding the poor, treating the sick and dying, etc). But like every large institution there's corruption. People using faith as a control device over others.

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