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Thread: Vermont Senate Passes Bill Establishing A Single Payer HealthCare System in the state

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    Vermont Senate Passes Bill Establishing A Single Payer HealthCare System in the state

    [url]http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/26/vermont-senate-single-payer/[/url]

    [QUOTE]As ThinkProgress previously reported, the Vermont legislature, led by Gov. Peter Shumlin (D), has been considering a proposal to establish some sort of single payer health care system — a system in which a single public insurer provides health insurance to all state residents, similar to the Medicare system for American seniors.

    Last month, the Vermont House of Representatives voted 92-49 to advance a bill that would create a single payer system in the state. Now, the Vermont Senate has followed suit, voting 21-9 for the bill:

    The Vermont Senate gave final approval to health care reform legislation Tuesday. The vote came after lengthy debate on amendments– many of them aimed at making the bill more palatable for businesses. Republicans introduced several amendments that they say would reduce the costs for businesses. But the strong Democratic majority easily rejected those amendments. [...] The bill passed 21-9.

    Now that the bill has passed both the House of Representatives and Senate, it will move to a conference committee to reconcile the two versions of the bill. It will then go to the desk of Gov. Peter Shumlin (D), who strongly supports the bill. Shumlin has said that it will make Vermont the first state where “health care will be a right and not a privilege.”

    A bigger hurdle Vermont faces is obtaining a waiver from the federal health care reform act and finding a way around federal ERISA laws — which “pre-empt states from enacting legislation if it is ‘related to’ employee benefit plans” –- that insurers could use to sue the state. The health reform law currently offers a waiver to states who meet certain standards by 2017. Rep. Peter Welch (D-VT) has introduced an amendment that would move the waiver date up to 2014 — an idea that President Obama has endorsed.[/QUOTE]
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    You really won't see many Pubs argue with the bill...

    States rights and all.

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    [QUOTE=Revi$_I$l@nd;4009928]You really won't see many Pubs argue with the bill...

    States rights and all.[/QUOTE]

    Absolutely.

    I applaud Vermont for doing it the right way.

    I won't choose to live there (for many reasons, not just this), but I strongly support their right to do it.

    As long as the people of the State support it (and I believe they do).

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    Arg.

    Socialism.

    Arg.

    Welfare.

    Arg.

    Poor people pay no taxes.

    Arg.

    Freedom.

    Arg.

    Communists.

    Arg.

    Red menace.

    Arg.

    Arg.
    Arg.
    Arg.
    Arg.

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    Vermont has the best cheese.

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;4010085]Vermont has the best cheese.[/QUOTE]

    Communist government cheese.

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    Funny, the two righties in here support the State, if not the policy.

    The two lefties troll and don't touch the OP Topic.

    lol.

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    Vermont is a city not a state.

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    Taxes uppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4009974]Absolutely.

    I applaud Vermont for doing it the right way.

    I won't choose to live there (for many reasons, not just this), but I strongly support their right to do it.

    As long as the people of the State support it (and I believe they do).[/QUOTE]

    What am I missing here? It's only acceptable for states to establish healthcare policy, but not the Federal government? Based on what? Are you suggesting that the Constitution does not convey that right to the National government?

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4010432][B]What am I missing here? [/B]It's only acceptable for states to establish healthcare policy, but not the Federal government? Based on what? Are you suggesting that the Constitution does not convey that right to the National government?[/QUOTE]

    Everything, apparently

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4009974]Absolutely.
    [/QUOTE]

    This

    [QUOTE=Warfish;4009974]
    I applaud Vermont for doing it the right way.
    [/QUOTE]

    This

    [QUOTE=Warfish;4009974]
    I won't choose to live there (for many reasons, not just this), but I strongly support their right to do it.
    [/QUOTE]
    This

    [QUOTE=Warfish;4009974]
    As long as the people of the State support it (and I believe they do).[/QUOTE]
    And this.

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;4010085]Vermont has the best cheese.[/QUOTE]
    and Timmy too :yepper:


    keep your eye on the numbers below, they're sure to change shortly


    edit...can't get the table to display properly

    $0 - 4%
    $34k+ - 7%
    $82,400k+ - 8%
    $171,850+ - 9%
    $373,650+ - 9%
    Last edited by jetswin; 04-27-2011 at 11:10 AM.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4010432]What am I missing here? It's only acceptable for states to establish healthcare policy, but not the Federal government? Based on what? Are you suggesting that the Constitution does not convey that right to the National government?[/QUOTE]

    Holy hell. You can't be serious.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4010432]What am I missing here? It's only acceptable for states to establish healthcare policy, but not the Federal government? Based on what? Are you suggesting that the Constitution does not convey that right to the National government?[/QUOTE]

    What, ran out of Wargarbl already?

    Sorry PK, it's hard to want to engage with you of late, because your posts like this:

    [QUOTE]Arg.

    Socialism.

    Arg.

    Welfare.

    Arg.

    Poor people pay no taxes.

    Arg.

    Freedom.

    Arg.

    Communists.

    Arg.

    Red menace.

    Arg.

    Arg.
    Arg.
    Arg.
    Arg.[/QUOTE]

    Have FAR outnumbered any rational posts of late.

    So, did you want to have a discussion, or will it engender more of the above?

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4010457]

    Have FAR outnumbered any [B]rational posts [/B]of late.
    [/QUOTE]

    Link?
    Last edited by JetPotato; 04-27-2011 at 11:15 AM.

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    [QUOTE=Revi$_I$l@nd;4010453]Holy hell. You can't be serious.[/QUOTE]

    Pretty sure he is. Mind boggling isn't it?

    I think its an excellent summary of why many liberals are liberal in the first place: pure, unadulterated ignorance.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4010432]What am I missing here? It's only acceptable for states to establish healthcare policy, but not the Federal government? Based on what? Are you suggesting that the Constitution does not convey that right to the National government?[/QUOTE]

    One big difference Vermont can't print there way out of an unsustainable plan like the Federal government is doing right now for their limited plans that are supposedly fully funded by each of us.

    If Vermont goes belly up my food and energy prices aren't impacted, my savings aren't stolen. Reality is Vermont, unlike the Federal government has to do it in a fiscally responsible manner. If they don't, only the good people of Vermont will be screwed.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4010457]So, did you want to have a discussion...[/QUOTE]


    Ben and Jerry's Death by Panel Chocolate. There. I said it. :D

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4010529]Ben and Jerry's Death by Panel Chocolate. There. I said it. :D[/QUOTE]

    Lol.:D

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