This is why we are so F. SS and Medicare are untouchable because we all have paid into it for what was advertised as a guaranteed pension. They even send me statements every year just like my private pension plans do telling me how much I put in and what I'm entitled to.
What they failed to tell everyone is without the government being fiscally responsible Medicare and SS would either not live up to its obligations or the government would have to inflate the currency and not report the corresponding inflation in order to destroy the value of the benefit.
The Ryan plan cuts benefits that people expect. The President’s plan cuts benefits that people expect. Seniors who have paid into this system for decades aren’t going to be rolled over by the ugly facts that Democrats and Republicans have been so irresponsible with their money that their benefits no longer exist as advertised.
Both Ryan and the President kick the savings down the road. Down the road the Congress and the President will face the same problem with the electorate they face now as the reason to kick it down the road. The projected savings that the CBO, the President or Paul Ryan tells us are going to happen is nonsense.
When we are all crushed by inflation and our worthless currency real painful austerity is going to be needed.
[QUOTE=FF2®;4010324]Lots of cane shaking going on there!
Good for the old timers. They worked all their life and now some snot-nosed know-it-all kid tries to explain why they don't deserve their benefits.
Democracy in action.[/QUOTE]
You do realize that most of the riots going on around the world are mostly about food and energy prices. If the Fed keeps monitizing the debt and allows our government officials to continue to spend their asses off there are likely to be food riots in the good old USA.
[QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4010357]You do realize that most of the riots going on around the world are mostly about food and energy prices. If the Fed keeps monitizing the debt and allows our government officials to continue to spend their asses off there are likely to be food riots in the good old USA.[/QUOTE]
So lets fix it on the backs of out most vulnerable citizens.
Rather than reduce wasteful miiltary spending a penny.
CONSTITUENT: I’ve been around this area for quite a long time but once all the factories moved out and there’s no work for our grandchildren or children to get jobs. And if they did have have jobs and those factories were open if you applied a tariff on companies that left, they would come back, or our government could take the money they have and reinvest in the factories that are still here and get apprenticeship programs for people like electricians, pipefitters, plumbers, sheet metal men and put it back to work. You would have the money you need to balance all that. [referring to the budget] (applause from the audience)
RYAN: I agree with the first — I totally agree with that sentiment. First of all the tax system we have is a corrupt system it doesn’t work. It benefits a handful of people and businesses at the expense of everybody else. What I would say is let’s get rid of the tax shelters that let’s some pay get away with paying no taxes –
CONSTITUENT: Do it first! (cheers from audience)
RYAN: Come on, it’s not worth the peanut gallery. Let’s clean up the tax code and lower our tax rates. The reason why I say, the president’s commission said the same thing, we’re taxing our businesses our employers, a lot more than our competitors are taxing theirs –
(Audience boos, hisses)
CONSTITUENT: He’s lying!
RYAN: If you’re yelling I just want to ask you to leave. It’s just not polite.
[QUOTE=FF2®;4010624]So lets fix it on the backs of out most vulnerable citizens.
Rather than reduce wasteful miiltary spending a penny.[/QUOTE]
Let me get this straight the Dems took over the entire Congress in 06 the Presidency in 08 and since then we have escallated the war in AG and entered a war in Libya.
I think we should end the wars today withdraw troops from most of the world and take a chain saw to the military.
Granted when it comes to war and the military the Republicans won't touch it. On the other hand what is the justification of expanded wars and expanded entitlements under the Democrats that is absolutely maulling the middle class with inflation.
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[QUOTE=FF2®;4010624]So lets fix it on the backs of out most vulnerable citizens.[/quote]
I always enjoy it when posters quote party talking points verbatim.
[quote]Rather than reduce wasteful miiltary spending a penny.[/QUOTE]
End the Wars, End Millitary Basing in places like Germany, S.Korea and Japan, and do a top-to-bottom evaluation of Millitary spending and programs to ensure we're #1 in tech. and lethality in conventional service, while being as cheap (and as safe for the troops) as possible.
Does that sound like "not reducing millitary spending a penny"?;)
[QUOTE=Warfish;4010651]I always enjoy it when posters quote party talking points verbatim.
The Democrats aren't taking care of the most vulnurable in our society. They are taking care of middle class Union workers. The Health care bill kept in place huge tax deductions for their gold plated health benifits.