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    Obama's opportunity

    Obama's key message that resonated throughout his campaign was that he was going to be a uniter..."no more red states, no more blue states, only the United States" and such. Nobody can argue that since his election, the country and the two parties have been more polarized than ever. We could argue endlessly about why it's more polarized -- the left will blame the "obstructionist and racist right", the right will blame the left for arrogantly ramming home socialist entitlements etc....I'm not interested in having that argument here.

    Obama gained huge political capital with the death of OBL, and I fully expect him to use it in his run to 2012 (as anyone would). But will he use this uniting victory to perhaps work towards his "one America" promise, or will it all just be campaign mojo? All his "victories" up to this point have been partisan and subjective (obamacare, etc), and team Obama goes by Rahm Emanuel's motto of "never let a crisis go to waste" -- how will they handle this unprecedented positive political good fortune? It's gonna be interesting to watch...

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    He'll **** it up.

    I can already see Axelrod and Gibbs releasing statements from Chicago HQ blaming Bush for not being able to capture Bin Laden for 7 years. Making sarcastic comments about birthers and tea partiers as they have always done. Taking Pelosi's lead and talking about both sides of their mouths.

    You know, honestly, it's not so much Obama that is such a huge polarizer, it's the thugs from Chicago that surround him and run his political operations. Axe and Gibbs may not be in the WH anymore but they are running his reelection campaign. I fully expect to hear the same sort of rhetoric from them that we've become accustomed to.

    This event at Ground Zero should be interesting. I think it's a bit crass, to be honest. Obama is going to the WTC site as a conquering hero. Where Bush went there to comfort people but ultimately failed, Obama is now going there to officially end the era of terror from OBL, and "own" the disaster in his own right.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4021822]He'll **** it up.

    I can already see Axelrod and Gibbs releasing statements from Chicago HQ blaming Bush for not being able to capture Bin Laden for 7 years. Making sarcastic comments about birthers and tea partiers as they have always done. Taking Pelosi's lead and talking about both sides of their mouths.

    You know, honestly, it's not so much Obama that is such a huge polarizer, it's the thugs from Chicago that surround him and run his political operations. Axe and Gibbs may not be in the WH anymore but they are running his reelection campaign. I fully expect to hear the same sort of rhetoric from them that we've become accustomed to.

    [B]This event at Ground Zero should be interesting. I think it's a bit crass, to be honest.[/B] Obama is going to the WTC site as a conquering hero. Where Bush went there to comfort people but ultimately failed, Obama is now going there to officially end the era of terror from OBL, and "own" the disaster in his own right.[/QUOTE]

    Shocking :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;4021828]Shocking :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, well, what are ya gonna do -- why else could Obama possibly be doing this than to subtly gloat about the whole thing?

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4021829]Yeah, well, what are ya gonna do -- why else could Obama possibly be doing this than to subtly gloat about the whole thing?[/QUOTE]

    Because he's the President and going to Ground Zero to lay a wreath and meet with families and first responders is exactly what he should do after our country killed the man responsible for it being called Ground Zero. It's part of his job as the head of government, the commander-in-chief, and head of state.
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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4021829]Yeah, well, what are ya gonna do -- why else could Obama possibly be doing this than to subtly gloat about the whole thing?[/QUOTE]

    Obama is having a private meeting with the families of first responders, the same people he made a promise to get Bin Laden to.

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    [QUOTE=shakin318;4021799]
    Obama gained huge political capital with the death of OBL, and I fully expect him to use it in his run to 2012 (as anyone would). But will he use this uniting victory to perhaps work towards his "one America" promise, or will it all just be campaign mojo? All his "victories" up to this point ...[/QUOTE]
    all his victories?

    to me he's finally off the schneid, he was an o-fer to this poiint

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4021829]Yeah, well, what are ya gonna do -- why else could Obama possibly be doing this than to subtly gloat about the whole thing?[/QUOTE]

    You'd rather he was in Brazil on a family vacation? Can't win, it seems...

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    [QUOTE=shakin318;4021799] All his "victories" up to this point have been partisan and subjective (obamacare, etc).[/QUOTE]

    people love medicare they will love obamacare

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    [QUOTE=jetswin;4021848]all his victories?

    to me he's finally off the schneid, he was an o-fer to this poiint[/QUOTE]

    There's a reason I put "victories" in quotes. Up until killing OBL, his accomplishments were tremendously divisive.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4021851]You'd rather he was in Brazil on a family vacation? Can't win, it seems...[/QUOTE]

    Really? I said that? Can you quote me directly next time instead of putting words in my mouth? Thanks.

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;4021836]Because he's the President and going to Ground Zero to lay a wreath and meet with families and first responders is exactly what he should do after our country killed the man responsible for it being called Ground Zero. It's part of his job as the head of government, the commander-in-chief, and head of state.[/QUOTE]

    Yes, I suppose. Like I said, if he gives a speech, the tone he uses will be interesting.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4021920]Yes, I suppose. Like I said, if he gives a speech, the tone he uses will be interesting.[/QUOTE]

    he's not giving a speech

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;4021836]Because he's the President and going to Ground Zero to lay a wreath and meet with families and first responders is exactly what he should do after our country killed the man responsible for it being called Ground Zero. It's part of his job as the head of government, the commander-in-chief, and head of state.[/QUOTE]

    As a NYer and first responder, I disagree 100%. I really don't see the correlation, tbh. Now, seeing the Freedom Tower lit up red, white and blue this morning made sense to me. The POTUS (or any other gubbmint official) going to GZ to mark the killing of the head terrorist like it's deserving of some kind of noteworthy ceremony seems....misplaced. :dunno:

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    Well, it was a nice, somber ceremony. I believe appropriate, as well.

    I don't know who the male anchor is on Fox News, but what a self important douche. Shut up, dude.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4021908]Really? I said that? Can you quote me directly next time instead of putting words in my mouth? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

    Nah, it's more fun putting words in your mouth... ;)

    Problem is, any choice can be turned into a negative:

    1. He doesn't go to NY to lay wreath - he's a selfish, Muslim-lover.
    2. He goes to NY to lay a wreath - he's just being a political hack.

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    There is 1 1/2 years to the 2012 elections. The economy is still in shambles and unemployment went up for the first time in 8 months.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4022030]Nah, it's more fun putting words in your mouth... ;)

    Problem is, any choice can be turned into a negative:

    1. He doesn't go to NY to lay wreath - he's a selfish, Muslim-lover.
    2. He goes to NY to lay a wreath - he's just being a political hack.[/QUOTE]

    Anything can be turned into a negative if that's the first thing you're looking for. You should take cues from the President and be more of a uniter, not a divider. ;)

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;4022066]There is 1 1/2 years to the 2012 elections. The economy is still in shambles and unemployment went up for the first time in 8 months.[/QUOTE]

    Would this be different under McCain? If so, why do you believe this?

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    [QUOTE=King Koopa;4024443]Would this be different under McCain? If so, why do you believe this?[/QUOTE]

    I can see the Obama campaign posters now:

    [B][I][SIZE="3"]Hey, it would have been just as bad under McCain.[/SIZE][/I][/B]

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