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    Sec Gates on Bin Laden raid

    [B]Gates praises Obama's call on bin Laden raid
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    [QUOTE]CNN) -- President Barack Obama's decision to order a raid against Osama bin Laden in Pakistan was a courageous and gutsy call, said U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
    "I've worked for a lot of these guys and this is one of the most courageous calls -- decisions -- that I think I've ever seen a president make," he said during a CBS "60 Minutes" interview that aired Sunday night.
    "It was a very gutsy call."
    The outgoing defense secretary said he had "real reservations" about the intelligence surrounding the raid.
    "I was very concerned, frankly," he said. "My worry was the level of uncertainty about whether bin Laden was even in the compound. There wasn't any direct evidence that he was there. It was all circumstantial, but it was the best information that we had since probably 2001."
    U.S. officials had tracked a trusted bin Laden courier for years, who they believed was living with and protecting the al Qaeda leader. They were confident the courier lived at the Pakistan compound, but were not certain that bin Laden lived there too.
    The courier and his brother were among those killed in the raid.
    Gates said it would be "premature" to talk about whether bin Laden's death could accelerate the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, now slated to start in July, but said he believes the United States is gaining the upper hand there.
    "We have over the last 18 months put in place, for the first time, the resources necessary to ensure that this threat does not rebuild -- does not re-emerge -- once we're gone. I think we could be in a position by the end of this year where we have turned the corner in Afghanistan," he said.
    Gates, the only Cabinet member from the previous administration to stay on when Obama came into office, is expected to step down this year.
    Former President George W. Bush nominated Gates as the nation's 22nd secretary of defense in December 2006 to replace Donald Rumsfeld, one of the architects of the Iraq war.
    During the early months of his tenure, Gates focused on implementing the "troop surge" in Iraq, a strategy change that was under consideration before he became secretary. It called for increasing the number of troops in Iraq and focusing their efforts in Baghdad. The goal was to have Iraqi troops take the lead in military matters and allow political progress to proceed by isolating extremists.
    Although many on both sides of the political spectrum opposed the idea of 20,000 more American troops in Iraq, by 2008 violence declined, and Gates began overseeing the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country, an endeavor that continues.
    "I think had we left here with our tail between our legs, and with chaos, it would have been very bad for our army and for our military," he said.
    Still, Gates told CBS that he was worried the United States would be "penny-wise and pound-foolish" in Iraq in the months and years to come.
    The defense secretary also lashed out at the institution he runs during the wide-ranging interview, criticizing Pentagon bureaucracy.
    "I think the hardest thing for me to deal with is leading a department that is organized to plan for war but not to fight a war. And so everything that I wanted to do to try to help the men and women in the field, I've had to do outside the normal Pentagon bureaucracy ... that's been very frustrating," he said.
    "I've ruffled a few feathers at all the institutions I've led, but I think that's part of leadership."[/QUOTE]

    [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7366134n[/url]

    - I will say in that clip that Couric definitely came off as biased for Obama... but hopefully this thread doesn't deteriorate into a "liberal media" discussion.

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    Gates also publicly blamed the White House for leaking the exact SEALS detail team that performed the act.

    These SEALS and now their families are in grave danger thanks to the OBAMA team. Almost 90 percent of all SEALS live in a town in Virginia which is now basically under seige for protection. (google it... I'm too tired to provide the link).

    Nothing like politics.....

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    Dam Neck, VA? It's common knowledge that East Coast SEALS are located there, just as West Coast SEALS are in San Diego. And Dam Neck isn't a small town where big beefy guys stand out, it's right next to Virginia Beach and Norfolk, a city full of Navy/military.

    I'm actually surprised and glad that they didn't leak anything about "Delta" being involved.

    anyway, you can read all about DEVGRU on wikipedia. Much of the info comes from the book of a former member.

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    [QUOTE=majormajor42;4029487]Dam Neck, VA? It's common knowledge that East Coast SEALS are located there, just as West Coast SEALS are in San Diego. And Dam Neck isn't a small town where big beefy guys stand out, it's right next to Virginia Beach and Norfolk, a city full of Navy/military.

    I'm actually surprised and glad that they didn't leak anything about "Delta" being involved.

    anyway, you can read all about DEVGRU on wikipedia. Much of the info comes from the book of a former member.[/QUOTE]

    I was traveling this weekend and listened to someone on NPR talk about how the EXACT unit was leaked , and GATES made it clear in a talk at Camp Legeune that the leak came from the White House. I googled it and that story is readily available. The SEALS in the EXACT unit have legit concerns over their safety.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4029544]I was traveling this weekend and listened to someone on NPR talk about how the EXACT unit was leaked , and GATES made it clear in a talk at Camp Legeune that the leak came from the White House. I googled it and that story is readily available. The SEALS in the EXACT unit have legit concerns over their safety.[/QUOTE]

    I don't get this. We are talking about Seal team 6? The identities of who is in that unit is classified. So what if they know what the team name is? What am i missing?

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4029550]I don't get this. We are talking about Seal team 6? The identities of who is in that unit is classified. So what if they know what the team name is? What am i missing?[/QUOTE]

    I am not clear either except what I heard and read. That the identities of some of the exact men can be ascertained and or because the town is small, the identity is difficult to conceal.

    The SEALS are not happy over the leak is the jist of the story.

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