Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Rossi's Self Sustaining One Megawatt Reactor

  1. #1
    Jets Insider VIP
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    6,278

    Rossi's Self Sustaining One Megawatt Reactor

    I won't post the whole article here but if this is real it could be huge. I couldn't find anything refuting this but did find many other articles claiming it is real and has been independently confirmed.

    From the bottom of the page @ the second link below.
    [QUOTE]The energy catalyzer
    [B]The energy catalyzer[/B] was demonstrated publicly for first time on the 14th January 2011. According to its inventor Andrea Rossi it has a closed reactor of steel that is loaded with nickel powder plus secret catalysts and pressurized with hydrogen.
    It’s ‘ignited’ by heating from two electrical resistances. In a copper tube around the reactor, water heated by the reactor is flowing.
    The heat is generated from an unknown reaction, according to Rossi himself, and [URL="http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3144827.ece"][COLOR=#0084ff]according to Professor Sven Kullander and Associate Professor Hanno Essén[/COLOR][/URL] probably a nuclear reaction.
    The concept of cold fusion has been mentioned and would refer to a nuclear reaction between hydrogen and nickel, producing copper. Another term is LENR – Low Energy Nuclear Reaction.
    Many physicists are very skeptical. Partly because fusion of nuclei, which with their positive charges repel each other (the Coulomb barrier), requires hundreds of millions of degrees according to current knowledge, and partly because fusion should produce very high levels of gamma radiation.
    [B]The debate has gained new momentum[/B] after Professor Sven Kullander and Associate Professor Hanno Essén participated in a test on 29 March and [URL="http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3144827.ece"][COLOR=#0084ff]found that the measured values can only be explained by a nuclear reaction[/COLOR][/URL], while an isotopic analysis of the used nickel powder raised questions.
    Among the most critical is [URL="http://nuclearphysics.nuclear.lu.se/staff/peter/cv_eng.htm"][COLOR=#0084ff]Peter Ekström[/COLOR][/URL], lecturer at the Department of Nuclear Physics at Lund University in Sweden. After a [URL="http://www.fysik.org/WebSite/fragelada/resurser/cold_fusion.pdf"][COLOR=#0084ff]thorough discussion[/COLOR][/URL] he concludes: ‘I am convinced that the whole story is one big scam, and that it will be revealed in less than one year.’
    Slightly more cautious in his skepticism, [URL="http://www.fysast.uu.se/ges/sv/kjell-aleklett"][COLOR=#0084ff]Kjell Aleklett[/COLOR][/URL], physics professor at Uppsala University in Sweden, summarizes [URL="http://aleklett.wordpress.com/2011/04/11/rossi-energy-catalyst-a-big-hoax-or-new-physics/"][COLOR=#0084ff]his discussion[/COLOR][/URL]: ’I myself have nothing against to reveal a scam, or join in and verify something that no one could imagine. Both extremes belong to that which makes life as a researcher incredibly interesting.’
    An intense debate is also being held on the Wikipedia [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Energy_Catalyzer"][COLOR=#0084ff]discussion page[/COLOR][/URL] related to [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer"][COLOR=#0084ff]the article ‘Energy catalyzer’[/COLOR][/URL], and in many other forums.
    However, to date no one have been able to explain the measured values that Ny Teknik now has been able to confirm.
    The inventor Andrea Rossi is planning an installation of 300 energy catalyzers at a total of one megawatt in Greece in October 2011.
    [/QUOTE]

    [URL]http://pesn.com/2011/07/21/9501874_Rossis_Self_Sustaining_One_Megawatt_Reactor/[/URL]

    [QUOTE]
    [I]Among the breaking news items about Andrea Rossi's [B]cold fusion E-Cat (Energy Catalyzer) technology[/B] is the announcement that the one megawatt reactor launching this October will likely self sustain with no external input power. Clarification on recent NASA meeting.[/I]
    [/QUOTE]

    [URL]http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3166552.ece[/URL]

    [QUOTE]
    [B]The results of the two tests[/B] showed a developed net power of between 2.3 and 2.6 kilowatts – of the order of a large stove plate. Input electric power was in the order of 300 watts.
    [/QUOTE]

  2. #2
    Very interesting!

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8eIhth8Iw8[/url]

    :jets17

  3. #3
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Oceanside, Long Island
    Posts
    10,787
    I was around for Pons and Fleishman and that whole thing made a huge splash in the media before the news started to come out that other labs could not recreate the reported phenomenon and in fact that the original experimenters had difficulty reproducing their own results. Oddly enough some of the elder statesmen from the world of physics were reporting that this kind of idea seems to pop up every 30 years or so, usually accompanied by tremendous excitement.

    Practically limitless free energy without any nasty side effects would be the single greatest discovery in the history of mankind. Obviously it is an attractive idea and I am sure that the DOW would go to 50,000 overnight if it ever tuned out to be true. Let's see how it plays out.

  4. #4
    All League
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Midland Park, NJ
    Posts
    3,704
    [QUOTE=EM31;4067043]I was around for Pons and Fleishman and that whole thing made a huge splash in the media before the news started to come out that other labs could not recreate the reported phenomenon and in fact that the original experimenters had difficulty reproducing their own results. Oddly enough some of the elder statesmen from the world of physics were reporting that this kind of idea seems to pop up every 30 years or so, usually accompanied by tremendous excitement.

    Practically limitless free energy without any nasty side effects would be the single greatest discovery in the history of mankind. Obviously it is an attractive idea and I am sure that the DOW would go to 50,000 overnight if it ever tuned out to be true. Let's see how it plays out.[/QUOTE]

    If anybody could break the law of thermodynamics and repeat the findings they'd be the richest person on the planet... but until then cold fusion is quackery

  5. #5
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Oceanside, Long Island
    Posts
    10,787
    [QUOTE=FreshBaked 24 7;4067077]If anybody could break the law of thermodynamics and repeat the findings they'd be the richest person on the planet... but until then cold fusion is quackery[/QUOTE]
    The potential energy is in there at the atomic level and scientists have known this for years. In part this is why this story manages to get legs every thirty years give or take. The ability however to induce the required reaction at temperatures normally found at the center of stars is where the problem occurs.

    Of course if we could go to the moon and harvest Helium 3 in quantity then the physics problem becomes a little easier.

    Anyway it seems as if this fellow is rather publicly committed to an October 2011 date and claims to be on schedule so we shall see what we shall see.
    Last edited by EM31; 07-25-2011 at 09:03 AM.

  6. #6
    All League
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Midland Park, NJ
    Posts
    3,704
    [QUOTE=EM31;4067162]The potential energy is in there at the atomic level and scientists have known this for years. In part this is why this story manages to get legs every thirty years give or take. The ability however to induce the required reaction at temperatures normally found at the center of stars is where the problem occurs.

    Of course if we could go to the moon and harvest Helium 3 in quantity then the physics problem becomes a little easier.

    Anyway it seems as if this fellow is rather publicly committed to an October 2011 date and claims to be on schedule so we shall see what we shall see.[/QUOTE]

    The harvesting/production of tritium is the elephant in the room. Unless we have expensive missions to the moon to collect it like you suggested the only way to exploit the power of deuterium/tritium is to heat plasma... which on it's own takes a lot of the energy (if not more energy produced) to even make happen.

    In my opinion a hybrid system fusion reactor is needed. Concede the prospect of setting engineering benchmarks and find a means of separately heating/powering the plasma and let the rest of the process take care of its self

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Follow Us