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    I have no idea how things have been rosey this long based on the amount of taxes the average American pays.....Pony up boys and girls.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4066536]where exactly are we? on the verge of default because of the tea party.[/QUOTE]
    Oh, right, the tea party. They're the same ones who ruined California, right?

    Nefarious bunch.

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    [QUOTE=sackdance;4066675]Oh, right, the tea party. They're the same ones who ruined California, right?

    Nefarious bunch.[/QUOTE]

    The past 2 administrations seem to hve NO qualms about simply spending their way into history. They BOTH knew the debt ceiling was and is an issue.

    To blame this on the Tea Party is simply naive.

    We need drastically reduced government in MANY areas but government (especially federal), by design, is meant to grow. It has no fiscal constraints like a real business or entity.

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    Current Debt: 1 Trillion

    Cost of stupid, assinine, dumbf*ck wars to bring "freedom" and "democracy" to a bunch of f*cking goat herders: 1 Trillion

    But now were supposed to trust the lockstep, brainiacs who got us there to begin with to get us out? Yeah. Go pound salt. "We are conservatives. We conserve ****. But we love to spend money on third world countries...no questions asked. Did we have a "debt ceiling" on Iraqistan? F*ck no....we'll spend ANYTHING to help them, right? But when it comes to our country? F*ck that. Freedom isn't on the march.

    Politicians should do the country a favor and load themselves into a plane and fly it into the f*cking ocean.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4066687]Current Debt: 1 Trillion
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    Or 14 1/2 trillion. But what are facts anyway?

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4066687] Did we have a "debt ceiling" on Iraqistan? F*ck no....we'll spend ANYTHING to help them, right? But when it comes to our country? F*ck that. Freedom isn't on the march.
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    +1 it's very convenient how all of a sudden certain people have found fiscal responsibility.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4066679]To blame this on the Tea Party is simply naive.
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    At this point I don't know what can be blamed on the Tea Party.

    If anything, the country owes them a thank you for its efforts in helping frame debate and dialogue where it belongs - on fiscal responsibility.

    But for that they get called racist, bigots, haters, fundamentalists, etc.

    Sh*t.

    It's about nickels and dimes, just what Democrats and RINOs take for granted.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4066815]+1 it's very convenient how all of a sudden certain people have found fiscal responsibility.[/QUOTE]

    How many things have you flipped on from 8 years ago?

    Pretty much everything Obama's done that Bush was doing is a okay with you because you 'changed vantage points'...

    You may want to use whatever logic is allowing you to feel like your not a complete robot and apply it to the Pubs attempting to show fiscal restraint these days...

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    [QUOTE=sackdance;4066836]At this point I don't know what can be blamed on the Tea Party.

    If anything, the country owes them a thank you for its efforts in helping frame debate and dialogue where it belongs - on fiscal responsibility.

    But for that they get called racist, bigots, haters, fundamentalists, etc.

    Sh*t.

    It's about nickels and dimes, just what Democrats and RINOs take for granted.[/QUOTE]

    How this country has gotten to the point where borrowong to fund ongoing entitlements has been deemed ok is shameful. Government is literall y 1/3 bigger than it needs to be.

    For what..name a program that works well???? Check out the article on education spending. NO AMOUNT of money seems to help.

    [url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903554904576461571362279948.html[/url]
    Last edited by southparkcpa; 07-24-2011 at 03:00 PM.

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    [QUOTE=sackdance;4066836]At this point I don't know what can be blamed on the Tea Party.
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    Far-right Tea Party activists in Congress are derailing the negotiations because they are clinging to this retarded idea that people don't have to pay taxes and Americans are getting robbed of all of their money even though taxes are at their lowest point since 1950.

    So yeah, you can blame the Tea Party for that as well as crooked teeth, bad genetics and misspelled signs claiming Obama is a muslim spy born in Kenya.

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    [QUOTE=TerminatorJet;4066897]you can blame the Tea Party for that as well as crooked teeth, bad genetics[/QUOTE]

    :rolleyes:

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    A bunch of bs political theater, it's boring. Obama brought this on himself for voting against it when he was a Senator.

    It will get done and nothing will change, the Tea Party can hang their fledgling hats on it. Boy oh boy!

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    Liberals cry because some republicans saw the error of their RINO ways during the Bush era and see that we need to cut spending rather than continue on the path to destruction. What do you want the repub/tea partiers to do? Say, "We realize that we overspent in the past and that is causing an unfundable debt but we will vote to keep doing so because we made a mistake in the past?

    Since when can't you realize you made a mistake and start on the hard road back to redemption? Or has life in America really become make one step in the wrong direction and you must now follow the wrong path to the end?

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    We want real cuts right now not a few billion over ten years.

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;4067136]We want real cuts right now not a few billion over ten years.[/QUOTE]

    the "TEN YEARS" is clearly key because it puts the cuts on another administration.

    This country is ridiculous. We live on credit cards.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4067135]Liberals cry because some republicans saw the error of their RINO ways during the Bush era and see that we need to cut spending rather than continue on the path to destruction. What do you want the repub/tea partiers to do? Say, "We realize that we overspent in the past and that is causing an unfundable debt but we will vote to keep doing so because we made a mistake in the past?

    Since when can't you realize you made a mistake and start on the hard road back to redemption? Or has life in America really become make one step in the wrong direction and you must now follow the wrong path to the end?[/QUOTE]

    The Tea Party thinks it is ok to destroy the U.S.'s credit rating and believe that our place in the world won't be affected.

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    [URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/white-house-stokes-debt-ceiling-crisis/2011/03/29/gIQAvx8DYI_blog.html[/URL]



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    White House stokes debt-ceiling crisis
    By Jennifer Rubin
    A Republican aide e-mails me: “The Speaker, Sen. Reid and Sen. McConnell all agreed on the general framework of a two-part plan. A short-term increase (with cuts greater than the increase), combined with a committee to find long-term savings before the rest of the increase would be considered. Sen. Reid took the bipartisan plan to the White House and the President said no.”
    If this is accurate the president is playing with fire. By halting a bipartisan deal he imperils the country’s finances and can rightly be accused of putting partisanship above all else. The ONLY reason to reject a short-term, two-step deal embraced by both the House and Senate is to avoid another approval-killing face-off for President Obama before the election. Next to pulling troops out of Afghanistan to fit the election calendar, this is the most irresponsible and shameful move of his presidency.
    As for the House, why not pass the deal that Sen. Harry Reid agreed to, send it to the Senate and leave town? Enough already.
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    [QUOTE=cr726;4067226]The Tea Party thinks it is ok to destroy the U.S.'s credit rating and believe that our place in the world won't be affected.[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, that is what they believe. :rolleyes:

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    [URL]http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/272560/planless-dems-mark-steyn?page=2[/URL]

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    [INDENT]The only “plan” Barack Obama has put on paper is his February budget. Were there trillions and trillions of savings in that? Er, no. It increased spending and doubled the federal debt.

    How about Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader? Has he got a plan? No. The Democrat Senate has shown no interest in producing a budget for two-and-a-half years. Unlike the president, Senator Reid can’t even be bothered pretending he’s interested in spending reductions. But he is interested in spending, and, if that’s your bag, boring things like budgets only get in the way.

    It seems reasonable to conclude from the planlessness and budgetlessness of the Obama/Reid Democrats that their only plan is to carry on spending without limit. Otherwise, someone somewhere would surely have written something down on a piece of paper by now. But no, apparently the Department of Writing Down Plans is the only federal expense the president is willing to cut.[/INDENT][/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4067419][URL]http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/272560/planless-dems-mark-steyn?page=2[/URL][/QUOTE]

    lol :D

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