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    Obungler-2012.....Hollywood To The Rescue

    [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/Dowd--The-Downgrade-Blues.html?_r=3&ref=opinion[/url]


    [QUOTE]BARACK OBAMA must wonder sometimes if his luck has run out.

    Maybe he used it all up in 2008.

    “Yes, we can!” has devolved into “Hey, we might.”

    “When I said, ‘Change we can believe in,’ I didn’t say, ‘Change we can believe in tomorrow,’ ” he told an audience at a Chicago fund-raiser on Wednesday. “Not, ‘Change we can believe in next week.’ We knew this was going to take time, because we’ve got this big, messy, tough democracy.”

    True enough, but not F.D.R.-inspiring to a deflated and desperate nation that may face higher borrowing rates after the shock of the first credit downgrade in United States history.

    Barack Obama blazed like Luke Skywalker in 2008, but he never learned to channel the Force. And now the Tea Party has run off with his light saber.

    The dissonance of his promise and his reality is jarring.

    When he had power, he didn’t use it. He wanted to be a “transformational” president like Ronald Reagan, but failed to understand that Reagan’s strategic shows of strength allowed him to keep the whip hand without raising his voice.

    And now, just when the high school principal in the Oval has been browbeating Congress to help create jobs, he is once more distracted from that task as he tries to save his own.

    He goes to fund-raisers to tell people to stick with him, but he seems to be trying to reassure himself.

    “I have to admit,” the president said in Chicago, “I didn’t know how steep the climb was going to be.”

    At the large fund-raiser in his hometown, he tried to reassure disillusioned liberals about “unfinished business” to help those in need. Later, at a smaller $35,800-a-head dinner, he defended the unpopular debt package like a proud fiscal conservative.

    The president talks fondly of George Bush the elder, just as Bush the elder does of him. Obama thinks Bush is a poignant figure because he did the right thing, breaking his tax pledge to fix the deficit, even though he got punished for it with one term.

    It is clear that the once cocky Obama is feeling that same poignancy about his own presidency. Left in a giant pickle by the hot-dogging Bush the younger, the president who gloriously made history is now stuck in Sisyphus mode.

    He thinks he’s doing the right things to crawl out of W.’s mudslide, but he ends up being castigated by the right as a socialist, by the left as a conservative, and by the middle as wobbly.

    The one clear-cut, chesty victory that Obama has had may have come too late for beleaguered Americans to much care.

    When the president is asked what it felt like to kill Osama, he’s low-key and modest, even though he personally refocused the mission to capture the 9/11 architect after W. dropped the ball.

    He has told people what a thrill it was to meet Seal Team 6 — and the dog Cairo — which pulled off the hit, noting that the men looked less young and fearsome than he expected, and more like guys working at Home Depot.

    But while Obama takes the high road, his aides have made sure there are proxies to exuberantly brag on him.

    The White House clearly blessed the dramatic reconstruction of the mission by Nicholas Schmidle in The New Yorker — so vividly descriptive of the Seals’ looks, quotes and thoughts that Schmidle had to clarify after the piece was published that he had not actually talked to any of them.

    “I’ll just say that the 23 Seals on the mission that evening were not the only ones who were listening to their radio communications,” Schmidle said, answering readers’ questions in a live chat, after taking flak for leaving some with the impression that he had interviewed the heroes when he wrote in his account that it was based on “some of their recollections.”

    [b]The White House is also counting on the Kathryn Bigelow and Mark Boal big-screen version of the killing of Bin Laden to counter Obama’s growing reputation as ineffectual. The Sony film by the Oscar-winning pair who made “The Hurt Locker” will no doubt reflect the president’s cool, gutsy decision against shaky odds. Just as Obamaland was hoping, the movie is scheduled to open on Oct. 12, 2012 — perfectly timed to give a home-stretch boost to a campaign that has grown tougher.

    [SIZE="6"]The moviemakers are getting top-level access to the most classified mission in history from an administration that has tried to throw more people in jail for leaking classified information than the Bush administration.[/SIZE][/b]

    It was clear that the White House had outsourced the job of manning up the president’s image to Hollywood when Boal got welcomed to the upper echelons of the White House and the Pentagon and showed up recently — to the surprise of some military officers — at a C.I.A. ceremony celebrating the hero Seals.

    Just like W., Obama is going for that “Mission Accomplished” glow (without the suggestive harness). At least in this president’s case, though, something has been accomplished.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=DeanPatsFan;4095679][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/Dowd--The-Downgrade-Blues.html?_r=3&ref=opinion[/url][/QUOTE]

    I can't believe this was written as an opinion piece in the New York Times.:eek:

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    [QUOTE=Jetworks;4095759]I can't believe this was written as an opinion piece in the New York Times.:eek:[/QUOTE]

    I know, right?

    Terrible.

    :P

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    [QUOTE=Jetworks;4095759]I can't believe this was written as an opinion piece in the New York Times.:eek:[/QUOTE]

    When you've lost Maureen Dowd, that pretty much says it all right there.

    I liked the part where this President who is engaging in class warfare, demonizing the rich, held a 35,000 a plate fund raiser. You can't make this crap up.....:D

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    I really don't like the fact that a well established Hollywood director is willing and ready to create and market a film based on a hugely important event simply for partisan campaign purposes. Also, while I'm sure it's a fascinating story, I'm also not comfortable with a classified military endeavor being exploited by wannabes in Hollywood.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4096003]I'm also not comfortable with a classified military endeavor being exploited by wannabes in Hollywood.[/QUOTE]

    They're just emulating Nashville :P:D

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    Who plays bin Laden?

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;4099561]Who plays bin Laden?[/QUOTE]

    No doubt liberal Hollywood will cast a conservative actor to fill that role....

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    [QUOTE]The White House is also counting on the Kathryn Bigelow and Mark Boal big-screen version of the killing of Bin Laden to counter Obama’s growing reputation as ineffectual. [/QUOTE]

    Had to laugh at that quote, in one sentence it brings up how he got Bin Laden, but later says he is ineffectual.

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;4099561]Who plays bin Laden?[/QUOTE]

    [IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rU0DhdoaHwM/Sq5TR7n9vfI/AAAAAAAAFAE/-Bos7aZulzE/s320/pippen_s.jpg[/IMG]

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4096003]I really don't like the fact that a well established Hollywood director is willing and ready to create and market a film based on a hugely important event simply for partisan campaign purposes. Also, while I'm sure it's a fascinating story, I'm also not comfortable with a classified military endeavor being exploited by wannabes in Hollywood.[/QUOTE]

    But this crap has gone on for generations. As an example, the government hired top hollywood talent to develop the news reels that were shown before movies back in the day. Those "news" reels were filled with propogandist nonsense and drummed up sentiment for what the government wanted. Hollywood and the government has a long history of being in cahoots.

    Shockingly, DizzyDean found out about this practice only when a democratic president was in office. :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=DizzyDean;4095679][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/Dowd--The-Downgrade-Blues.html?_r=3&ref=opinion[/url][/QUOTE]

    :zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz:

    [url]http://victoryfilmgroup.com/theundefeatedmovie/[/url]

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4096003]I really don't like the fact that a well established Hollywood director is willing and ready to create and market a film based on a hugely important event simply for partisan campaign purposes. [/QUOTE]

    they aren't making it for partisan purposes. they are doing it to make money.

    everything is always about money

    as a side note I like "Obungler" better than "Odumba" keep em coming Dean-o. Obungler sounds like an Adam West Batman era villain. Odumba sounds like an african festival.

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    [QUOTE=Jetspennyfan;4099589]Had to laugh at that quote, in one sentence it brings up how he got Bin Laden, but later says he is ineffectual.[/QUOTE]

    lol the right's strategy: say a bunch of crap and hope some of it sticks

    the actual facts are not kind to their cause

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4099747]lol the right's strategy: say a bunch of crap and hope some of it sticks

    the actual facts are not kind to their cause[/QUOTE]

    As though the left doesn't do the same?

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    It doesn't matter. Like most liberal ideas, they sound great in theory but don't really work in reality.

    1. Americans have avoided war movies set in modern day Iraq and Afghanastan like the plague. This movie will bomb at the box office.

    2. It will be almost impossible to make this movie and not have it exposed for the propaganda that it is. Releasing it *right* before the election? Can you be more obvious?

    I'm just sorry that Kathryn Bigelow agreed to do this. I think The Hurt Locker was one of the best war pictures ever made - and part of the reason was because it didn't have any political subtext. I'm sad to see her sell out like this.

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    [QUOTE=Jetdawgg;4099612][IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rU0DhdoaHwM/Sq5TR7n9vfI/AAAAAAAAFAE/-Bos7aZulzE/s320/pippen_s.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

    bin Laden had lighter skin and no mini afro!

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    [QUOTE=Traitor Jay & the Woodies;4099762]
    2. It will be almost impossible to make this movie and not have it exposed for the propaganda that it is. Releasing it *right* before the election? Can you be more obvious?
    .[/QUOTE]

    unless you guys have a link that says this movie is sponsored by the DNC (like how Top Gun was sponsored by the Navy) this is all bull crap. they make movies to make money. the hurt locker won best picture and I'm sure made money. people will go to see OBL get jacked up by Navy seals (an elite strike force, another frequent movie subject), it's a business and that business is entertainment.

    it's not political. if W Bush wasn't such a jackass they would have made this movie in 2004 about what happened in Tora Bora. or they would have made this movie in 10 years when President Jeb Bush sends the order to kill OBL. this movie was getting made, no matter who was in charge. it's cathartic and people will watch it.
    Last edited by bitonti; 08-11-2011 at 11:32 AM.

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4099719]
    Shockingly, DizzyDean found out about this practice only when a democratic president was in office. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    What movie has Hollywood shot to portray a Republican President in a positive way and released three weeks before an election to help him get elected?

    Oliver Stone's Dubyah?

    Your comedy never gets old....

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4099794]unless you guys have a link that says this movie is sponsored by the DNC (like how Top Gun was sponsored by the Navy) this is all bull crap. they make movies to make money. the hurt locker won best picture and I'm sure made money. people will go to see OBL get jacked up by Navy seals (an elite strike force, another frequent movie subject), it's a business and that business is entertainment.

    it's not political. if W Bush wasn't such a jackass they would have made this movie in 2004 about what happened in Tora Bora. or they would have made this movie in 10 years when President Jeb Bush sends the order to kill OBL. this movie was getting made, no matter who was in charge. it's cathartic and people will watch it.[/QUOTE]

    If there is no political motivation for releasing a patriotic feature film featuring the dashing and bold young incumbant president 30 days before election day, Sony Studios (who holds fund raisers for said president) will have no issue in moving the release date until after the election.

    Besides, this is about making money. Everyone knows the best films are released in December anyway. October release dates are for crap films.


    And yes, war movies are box office death...

    [url]http://blogs.reuters.com/fanfare/2010/03/15/war-films-what-are-they-good-for-not-box-office/[/url]

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