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    Obama Speech: Americans looked for a leader, and what we got was the professor again.

    A pretty balanced article citing both the left and right's criticisms of the President. Although I disagree with most of the President's policies I am often impressed with his presence and communication skills....but he clearly flopped yesterday - both on message and delivery. It's obvious that behind the scenes the administration was still struggling with the message and he came out to the podium almost an hour late. He then opened his mouth to talk about the economy and the stock market tanked.

    This President is in a tight spot, stuck between a rock and a hard place IMO. He clearly inherited some tough problems not of his own doing (in fairness, he also inherited a AAA credit rating two years ago), but it looks like he can't make anybody happy right now.


    [QUOTE][B][SIZE="5"]In Debt Downgrade Aftermath, Obama Serves Up a Silly Speech[/SIZE][/B]
    By Judith Miller

    Published August 08, 2011

    First, do no harm. That is a useful injunction for doctors, lawyers, and, it turns out, U.S. presidents.

    But President Obama’s useless speech Monday about the basic soundness of the American economy managed to reinforce all the concerns Americans on the left and right have about his stewardship of the country.

    The speech did at least temporary harm. As soon as he finished speaking, the already jittery financial markets plunged.

    Americans didn’t want to hear that we’re fine people or that Warren Buffett thinks that we should have an impeccable credit rating.

    They didn’t want him to repeat his basic talking points: the need to marshal the “political will” to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance benefits, or create an infrastructure bank.

    They didn’t want to hear his perfectly reasonable desire to solve the debt crisis over time by cutting spending after the economy recovers and by raising more revenue from what the president now calls “tax reform” rather than new taxes.

    Americans wanted to hear what President Obama was planning to do to create jobs and stop our economy from slipping over an economic abyss into a double-dip recession.

    His calm, passionless, “voice of reason” message, without a single new proposal except his pledge to make specific proposals in the future and work with the Congressionally designated super-committee to address the deficit and debt crises – “leading from behind again” – actually panicked the markets. And no wonder. Americans were looking for a leader, and what we got was the professor again.

    One must sympathize with the president. Last week was his worst week ever in the job.

    First, he turned 50, usually traumatic for most people, even politicians.

    Then he became the first president to have a downgrading of America’s credit worthiness on his watch – an action taken by Standard & Poor’s, a company that made a two trillion dollar mistake in its own budget calculations and which gave the highest credit rating to Lehman Brothers on the verge of bankruptcy and to the mortgage-backed securities that helped cause the 2008 financial crisis. How do you spell “chutzpah” on Wall Street?

    Then he presided over the deadliest day in Afghanistan – the loss of 30 Americans soldiers, most of them Navy Seal commandos, some from the same unit that killed Usama Bin Laden. (He lauded their courage and sacrifice in the only convincing part of his today’s speech – at the end of that speech, which he introduced with the world’s most awkward transition: “One More Thing.”)
    Then markets plunged.

    The president has now managed to deepen the alienation of the right – which I believe unfairly accuses him of being a free-wheeling tax and spender whose profligacy is responsible for the nation’s slow growth and falling credit worthiness.

    Now, the left of his party, too, is in full rebellion. On Sunday, Drew Westen, a professor of psychology at Emory, articulated the fury of liberal Democrats in a New York Times Sunday Review essay.

    He excoriated Obama for failing to provide a “counternarrative” to that of the right and for engaging in “the politics of appeasement” with the Tea Party. The public, he wrote, was desperate for a Roosevelt who would name names and assign blame – to his predecessors. (Hasn’t Obama done a lot of that?) Instead, it got more rhetoric. Instead of indicting his predecessors’ economic policies that had eliminated eight million jobs, “in the most damaging of the tic-like gestures of compromise that have become the hallmark of his presidency,” Westen wrote, “he backed away from his advisers who proposed a big stimulus, and then diluted it with tax cuts that had already been shown to be inert.” The predictable result was a “half-stimulus that half-stimulated the economy.”

    How can one explain this lack of leadership? Westen offered several harsh theories. Perhaps Obama is, as conservatives have alleged, too inexperienced and hence, incompetent. Obama, he wrote, “had accomplished very little before he ran for president, having never run a business or a state.” He had a “singularly unremarkable career as a law professor, publishing nothing in 12 years at the University of Chicago other than an autobiography.” Finally, before joining the Senate, he had voted "present" rather than "yea" or "nay" 130 times, “sometimes dodging difficult issues.”

    But wait. Westen has an even harsher explanation, namely that America is being “held hostage not just by an extremist Republican Party but also by a president who either does not know what he believes or is willing to take whatever position he thinks will lead to his re-election.”

    Ouch. No wonder Mr. Obama looked so very shaken during a speech that was intended to boost the nation’s confidence.
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    His speech was 45 minutes late.

    And he gave it [B]while[/B] the stock market was in the process of declining.

    A 10th grader could have realized that giving the speech [B]while[/B] the market was going down was a stupid idea. He should have waited until the close of trading. Not Obama, though! :tsk:

    So the market took into consideration what Senator-In-The-Role-of-President Obama said. Then it tanked 400 points. :yes:

    :jets17

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    Market back up.

    Speech must have helped. :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;4097572]Market back up.

    Speech must have helped. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    The market went up after the Federal Reserve announced no increase in interest rates until at least June 2013. They expect tepid increase in business and jobs until then. If that's the case, Obama is a one-term President. :cool:

    :jets17

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    [QUOTE=AlbanyJet;4097619]The market went up after the Federal Reserve announced no increase in interest rates until at least June 2013. They expect tepid increase in business and jobs until then. If that's the case, Obama is a one-term President. :cool:

    :jets17[/QUOTE]

    Obama should be a one term, but if the Tea Party gets its way, he won't be. :yes:

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    [QUOTE=AlbanyJet;4097619]The market went up after the Federal Reserve announced no increase in interest rates until at least June 2013. They expect tepid increase in business and jobs until then. If that's the case, Obama is a one-term President. :cool:

    :jets17[/QUOTE]

    So in other words...speeches don't matter. Thank you for making my point.

    Did you not see the smiley face?

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;4097907]Did you not see the smiley face?[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, but I felt that documenting the Fed's opinion of lack of future business and jobs was warranted.

    :jets17

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4097805]Obama should be a one term, but if the Tea Party gets its way, he won't be. :yes:[/QUOTE]
    :D

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    There is a job waiting for Obama waiting at the Reverends Church counting the money. Church goes broke! HE HE!

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;4098347]There is a job waiting for Obama waiting at the Reverends Church counting the money. Church goes broke! HE HE![/QUOTE]

    Who is going to be the GOP candidate?

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4098374]Who is going to be the GOP candidate?[/QUOTE]

    At this point it doesnt even matter..... independents have abandoned him and most Americans realize that he is not a leader in any way shape or form. I wouldnt be surprised if someone from his own party runs in a primary against him.

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    [QUOTE=sec.101row23;4098389]At this point it doesnt even matter..... independents have abandoned him and most Americans realize that he is not a leader in any way shape or form. I wouldnt be surprised if someone from his own party runs in a primary against him.[/QUOTE]

    But it actually does matter.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4098443]But it actually does matter.[/QUOTE]

    Romney will most likely win the nomination.....with the current trajectory this country is heading...and the record that this President has accumulated...it wont matter much. If H. Clinton decides to run against him he will not make it out of his own primary.

    Its still very early in this whole process and candidates come out of nowhere and gain momentum....but I can not see the American people re-electing this guy. Too many people I know who supported him...are now dead set against him.

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    [QUOTE=sec.101row23;4098456]Romney will most likely win the nomination.....with the current trajectory this country is heading...and the record that this President has accumulated...it wont matter much. If H. Clinton decides to run against him he will not make it out of his own primary.

    Its still very early in this whole process and candidates come out of nowhere and gain momentum....but I can not see the American people re-electing this guy. Too many people I know who supported him...are now dead set against him.[/QUOTE]

    Wasn't Romney the front runner in 2008 until about the 4th primary?

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4098374]Who is going to be the GOP candidate?[/QUOTE]

    If he/she can walk and talk it is better then the person in the White House.
    Do you still Hope and Change! I hope for a change. Send the donkey back to Chicago!

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    [QUOTE=sec.101row23;4098456]Romney will most likely win the nomination.....with the current trajectory this country is heading...and the record that this President has accumulated...it wont matter much. If H. Clinton decides to run against him he will not make it out of his own primary.

    Its still very early in this whole process and candidates come out of nowhere and gain momentum....but I can not see the American people re-electing this guy. Too many people I know who supported him...are now dead set against him.[/QUOTE]

    It matters who is running, no matter what you may think now. I would not vote for Obama if there is a good candidate, but the Tea Party is going to screw that up as well.

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    [QUOTE=sec.101row23;4098456]Romney will most likely win the nomination.....with the current trajectory this country is heading...and the record that this President has accumulated...it wont matter much. If H. Clinton decides to run against him he will not make it out of his own primary.
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    delusional

    this thread calls for a leader... like a man who says "bring it on" and "watch this drive"

    ill take my chances with the professor over the cowboy.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4098480]delusional

    this thread calls for a leader... like a man who says "bring it on" and "watch this drive"

    ill take my chances with the professor over the cowboy.[/QUOTE]

    What are you talking about??

    Obama has been a miserable leader in his term as President....so bad that his own party would probably not nominate him if H. Clinton ran against him.

    Not sure what the whole cowboy thing you mentioned is about.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4098478]It matters who is running, no matter what you may think now. I would not vote for Obama if there is a good candidate, but the Tea Party is going to screw that up as well.[/QUOTE]

    I agree about the TEA party...it should be interesting to see what effect they have next year. Just as Obama won over the majority of independents in his election...I think he has lost them now.

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    [QUOTE=sec.101row23;4098488]Not sure what the whole cowboy thing you mentioned is about.[/QUOTE]

    lolz.

    Did you just wake up from a 10 year coma?

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