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    Government Gone Wild

    I thought only the evil corporations overpaid their executives...

    [url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=xOAgT8L_BqQ&feature=player_embedded[/url]

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    [QUOTE=Piper;4111353]I thought only the evil corporations overpaid their executives...

    [url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=xOAgT8L_BqQ&feature=player_embedded[/url][/QUOTE]

    Mind Boggling....... I wonder what IJF and CR have to say?????

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    I think it is hysterical, this guy is a hack and is a GOP Politician and was a construction guy (speculator) in Florida. This guy hates gov't, yet is in gov't. Typical Tea Party BS, do not look behind the curtain!!!! This guy should live in a glass house.

    [QUOTE]Blaise Ingoglia, who touted himself as "CEO of one of the largest homebuilding companies in one of the fastest growing states in America."

    Ingoglia said his Spring Hill company, Hartland Homes, could build no-frills houses at far below market value, according to Morea's notes from his seminar. With no money down, he said, investors could buy these homes and resell them before they were even completed.

    "The message was that with very little effort or risk, you could easily make $25,000 and do it again and again,'' said Morea, 45, a Los Angeles area real estate investor who quickly agreed to buy a house from Hartland.

    It wasn't until February 2008 that Morea visited Hernando County and discovered the full truth about Ingoglia's resale plan and her home, which Ingoglia had never told her was on a lime rock road.

    Ingoglia's pitch:

    Ingoglia told his audience that "1,900 people a day move to Florida'' and handed out a collection of upbeat newspaper quotes about Florida real estate under this heading: "Housing Bubble? Think Again!!!"

    In such a robust market, a house that Hartland could build for $218,000 would be appraised for $305,000. Even after closing costs and incentives offered to ensure a quick sale a year's worth of homeowners insurance, for instance investors could easily clear $25,000.

    Ingoglia doesn't argue with the accuracy of Morea's notes, just the context.

    He was not trying to lure investors, he said. "We were teaching people how to make money in new home construction.''

    But for an earlier expo in 2007, Hartland billed itself as an "investor only'' company. Advertisements for the seminar in Los Angeles repeatedly mentioned opportunities for "investing'' and "investors.'' And Hartland representatives were on hand to take orders for homes.

    "He was there specifically to sell houses to investors,'' Morea said.

    The charismatic salesman Morea described at the Los Angeles seminar is the same one who led the "Government Gone Wild'' crusade against county spending in 2007. His self-funded advertising campaign helped defeat two Democratic incumbents in the 2008 County Commission elections. [B]His election, in April, as chairman of the Hernando Republican Executive Committee[/B] means his influence will probably continue to grow.[/QUOTE]

    [url]http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/realestate/blaise-ingoglia-used-deceptive-sales-tactics-burned-real-estate-investors/1027943[/url]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4112505]I think it is hysterical, this guy is a hack and is a GOP Politician and was a construction guy (speculator) in Florida. This guy hates gov't, yet is in gov't. Typical Tea Party BS, do not look behind the curtain!!!! This guy should live in a glass house.



    Hey, if you can't dispute the evidence, attack the messenger.

    Typical.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4112505]I think it is hysterical, this guy is a hack and is a GOP Politician and was a construction guy (speculator) in Florida. This guy hates gov't, yet is in gov't. Typical Tea Party BS, do not look behind the curtain!!!! This guy should live in a glass house.



    [url]http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/realestate/blaise-ingoglia-used-deceptive-sales-tactics-burned-real-estate-investors/1027943[/url][/QUOTE]

    OK...but where are his facts wrong???? YOUR position here is pathetic, simply a blind eye.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4112505]Blaise Ingoglia, who touted himself as "CEO of one of the largest homebuilding companies in one of the fastest growing states in America."

    Ingoglia said his Spring Hill company, Hartland Homes, could build no-frills houses at far below market value, according to Morea's notes from his seminar. With no money down, he said, investors could buy these homes and resell them before they were even completed.
    [/QUOTE]

    LMFAO!!! F*Ck this a**hole.

    1.) Make $$$ ripping people off
    2.) Make $$$ convincing people he ripped off that he can stop the gubbermint from ripping you off
    3.) Profit.


    Hope his house gets leveled by a hurricane. :yes:

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4112575]OK...but where are his facts wrong???? YOUR position here is pathetic, simply a blind eye.[/QUOTE]

    I can generalize numbers to make my point, but I am not a glory whore looking for my next big pay day. This guy is a partisan hack.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4112647]LMFAO!!! F*Ck this a**hole.

    1.) Make $$$ ripping people off
    2.) Make $$$ convincing people he ripped off that he can stop the gubbermint from ripping you off
    3.) Profit.


    Hope his house gets leveled by a hurricane. :yes:[/QUOTE]

    Where are his facts wrong????

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4112670]Where are his facts wrong????[/QUOTE]

    Show us where he got his numbers and we can all agree with this great guy.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4112670]Where are his facts wrong????[/QUOTE]

    I had a mechanic who tried to rip my ex-wife off. He pulled bolts from the exhaust system while changing the tires (his shop did tires and exhaust). My guess is he was hoping a clueless woman would bring the car back when the exhaust got loud. Too bad I was driving it when it happened and saw what the a**hole tried to do.

    So basically the guy is a thief.

    So...now, my new van needs new tires. Like a dipsh*t moron...I'm going to bring my car there because "his facts aren't wrong...he does have 'the cheapest tires this side of Buffalo'"...or so it says in his local commercials.

    I mean, I know dude is a ripoff artist...but I'll trust him to do more work on my van because of his low, low prices :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4112692]Show us where he got his numbers and we can all agree with this great guy.[/QUOTE]

    I found these in about 2 minutes...I think most of his points are factual and can be supported. I am sure you will shoot any messenger supporting the facts.

    [url]http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-san-francisco/half-million-federal-employees-earning-100-000-plus-have-99-82-job-security[/url]

    [url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-12-10-federal-pay-salaries_N.htm[/url]

    [url]http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/federal_employees_at_the_troug_1.html[/url]

    [url]http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm[/url]

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4112739]I found these in about 2 minutes...I think most of his points are factual and can be supported. I am sure you will shoot any messenger supporting the facts.

    [url]http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-san-francisco/half-million-federal-employees-earning-100-000-plus-have-99-82-job-security[/url]

    [url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-12-10-federal-pay-salaries_N.htm[/url]

    [url]http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/federal_employees_at_the_troug_1.html[/url]

    [url]http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

    Nice work, but I am glad you only wasted 2 minutes...

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4112739]I found these in about 2 minutes...I think most of his points are factual and can be supported. I am sure you will shoot any messenger supporting the facts.

    [url]http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-san-francisco/half-million-federal-employees-earning-100-000-plus-have-99-82-job-security[/url]

    [url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-12-10-federal-pay-salaries_N.htm[/url]

    [url]http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/federal_employees_at_the_troug_1.html[/url]

    [url]http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

    In the 2 minutes I used to read some of these links, the American Thinker uses USA Today's numbers and there are a lot of ways to manipulate #'s and the American piece does it pretty nicely.

    My salary has been frozen for 2 years and they are planning on freezing it an additional 3. Private sector f's their own on a regular basis and big business and gov't are intertwined.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4112898]My salary has been frozen for 2 years and they are planning on freezing it an additional 3. [/QUOTE]

    :sad violin song:

    C'mon, bro. Who are you fooling? We all know you make $185,000/year, only work 10-12 hours a week, have health insurance without a single deductible and have a pension plan that is guaranteed at $26,000,000 a year when you retire at the age of 26 1/2.

    :yes:

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4112898]In the 2 minutes I used to read some of these links, the American Thinker uses USA Today's numbers and there are a lot of ways to manipulate #'s and the American piece does it pretty nicely.

    My salary has been frozen for 2 years and they are planning on freezing it an additional 3. Private sector f's their own on a regular basis and big business and gov't are intertwined.[/QUOTE]

    Yep....filthy liars at the USA today! Thank God for all you open minded civil servants defending the democracy for us taxpayers.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4112739]I found these in about 2 minutes...[/QUOTE]

    Which clients did you bill for this time?

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4112962]:sad violin song:

    C'mon, bro. Who are you fooling? We all know you make $185,000/year, only work 10-12 hours a week, have health insurance without a single deductible and have a pension plan that is guaranteed at $26,000,000 a year when you retire at the age of 26 1/2.

    :yes:[/QUOTE]

    How does $151K a year + Bennies sound?

    [url]http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/US-Department-of-Homeland-Security-Salaries-E34085.htm[/url]

    If I recall, our boy works in the field. If he's not a Special Agent yet, he can thank me for finding him a better job.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4113271]How does $151K a year + Bennies sound?

    [url]http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/US-Department-of-Homeland-Security-Salaries-E34085.htm[/url]

    If I recall, our boy works in the field. If he's not a Special Agent yet, he can thank me for finding him a better job.[/QUOTE]

    You'd be wrong on the salary, not sure where they are getting their numbers from?

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4113130]Yep....filthy liars at the USA today! Thank God for all you open minded civil servants defending the democracy for us taxpayers.[/QUOTE]

    Who said they were lying? You should know better, that is the beauty in being able to f with numbers.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4113271]How does $151K a year + Bennies sound?

    [url]http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/US-Department-of-Homeland-Security-Salaries-E34085.htm[/url]

    If I recall, our boy works in the field. If he's not a Special Agent yet, he can thank me for finding him a better job.[/QUOTE]

    Friend of mine is a secret service agent, I know for a FACT he made in excess of 130K last year. Just sayin...CR will dispute this fact along with every other.

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