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    Al-Qaida's No. 2 reported killed by US in Pakistan

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    Al-Qaida's No. 2 reported killed by US in Pakistan
    Saturday, August 27, 2011 Last updated: Saturday August 27, 2011, 3:49 PM

    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

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    WASHINGTON U.S. and Pakistani officials said Saturday that al-Qaida's second-in-command, Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, has been killed in Pakistan, delivering another big blow to a terrorist group that the U.S. believes to be on the verge of defeat.

    Since Navy SEALs stormed Osama bin Laden's compound and killed him in May, the Obama administration has been unusually frank in its assessment that al-Qaida is on the ropes, its leadership in disarray. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said last month that al-Qaida's defeat was within reach if the U.S. could mount a string of successful attacks.

    "Now is the moment, following what happened with bin Laden, to put maximum pressure on them," Panetta said, "because I do believe that if we continue this effort we can really cripple al-Qaida as a major threat."

    A Libyan national, al-Rahman never had the worldwide name recognition of bin Laden or bin Laden's successor, Ayman al-Zawahiri. But al-Rahman was regarded as an instrumental figure in the terrorist organization, trusted by bin Laden to oversee al-Qaida's daily operations.

    When the SEALs raided bin Laden's compound, they found evidence of al-Rahman's deep involvement in running al-Qaida.

    Senior al-Qaida figures have been killed before, only to be replaced. But the Obama administration's tenor reflects a cautious optimism that victory in the decade-long fight against al-Qaida could be at hand.

    "It does hold the prospect of a strategic defeat, if you will, a strategic dismantling, of al-Qaida," incoming CIA Director David Petraeus said in July.

    Since bin Laden's death, counterterrorism officials have hoped to capitalize on al-Qaida's unsettled leadership. The more uncertain the structure, the harder it is for al-Qaida to operate covertly and plan attacks.

    Al-Zawahiri is running the group but is considered a divisive figure who lacks the founder's charisma and ability to galvanize al-Qaida's disparate franchises.

    A U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to summarize the government's intelligence on al-Rahman, said al-Rahman's death will make it harder for Zawahiri to oversee what is considered an increasingly weakened organization.

    "Zawahiri needed Atiyah's experience and connections to help manage al-Qaida," the official said.

    Al-Rahman was killed Aug. 22 in the lawless Pakistani tribal region of Waziristan, according to a senior administration who also insisted on anonymity to discuss intelligence issues.

    A Pakistani intelligence official said al-Rahman died in a U.S. missile strike in Machi Khel village in North Waziristan on Aug. 22.

    The U.S. official would not say how al-Rahman was killed. The Pakistani official did not say how the country's main intelligence agency, the ISI, knew that al-Rahman was dead. This official did not give his name in keeping with agency rules.

    Intelligence officials had said at the time that four people were killed in the attack.

    But a CIA drone strike was reported that day in Waziristan. Such strikes by unmanned aircraft are Washington's weapon of choice for killing terrorists in the mountainous, hard-to-reach area along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

    Al-Rahman has been thought to be dead before. Last year, there were reports that al-Rahman was killed in a drone strike; neither U.S. officials nor al-Qaida ever confirmed them. The officials who confirmed the death Saturday said it represented the consensus opinion of the U.S. government.

    Born in Libya, al-Rahman joined bin Laden as a teenager in Afghanistan to fight the Soviet Union.

    He once served as bin Laden's personal emissary to Iran. Al-Rahman was allowed to move freely in and out of Iran as part of that arrangement and has been operating out of Waziristan for some time, officials have said.

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    I think it's safe to say that "Al Qaeda #2" is the worst job in the world. Talk about a high turnover rate.

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    When they name his replacement we need to kill him as well.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4118838]I think it's safe to say that "Al Qaeda #2" is the worst job in the world. Talk about a high turnover rate.[/QUOTE]

    Or, as many of our forum posters said circa ~4 years ago and earlier:

    "So what, how many #2's does AQ have anyway? Zzzzzzz:zzz:"

    ;)

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;4118838]I think it's safe to say that "Al Qaeda #2" is the worst job in the world. Talk about a high turnover rate.[/QUOTE]

    the bene package and options must boggle the mind

    :D

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    You know they cringe when Al Jezerra lists their power rankings.

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    Bin Laden, Ghadafi and now this guy all go down in 1 year. Not bad for a supposed cream puff like Obama.

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    [QUOTE=TerminatorJet;4119829]Bin Laden, Ghadafi and now this guy all go down in 1 year. Not bad for a supposed cream puff like Obama.[/QUOTE]

    As though Obama had anything to do with it. Taking Ghadafi out is going to be seen as a HUGE mistake in the coming years. Replacing the devil you know with the one you don't. It will take 10-20 years for Lybia to stabilize and there is little to no American interest in Lybia. They only product 1% of the worlds oil. It would have been better and cheaper to just increase American output.

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    [QUOTE=TerminatorJet;4119829]Bin Laden, Ghadafi and now this guy all go down in 1 year. Not bad for a supposed cream puff like Obama.[/QUOTE]

    I blame every President since Lockerbie for not killing Ghadafi. We helped the rebels for their 2011 interests but didn't do anything against him relative to our interests in 1986 when hundreds of Americans were blown up in mid flight.:steamin:

    The bombing of his tent was in retaliation for the German club bombing that targeted Americans not for the bombed plane. BTW there is now proof his daughter did NOT die- she is now a doctor.

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    The one thing that has surprised me about Obama is how much of a war monger he has been. We have stepped up targeted killings under this administration. Gotten in to another war. Definitely not what I would have expected. Unfortunately his foreign policy and economic policies have been horrific. If the election was based on targeted assassinations of Al-Qaeda leaders he should win.

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    [QUOTE=PatriotReign;4120006]I blame every President since Lockerbie for not killing Ghadafi. [/QUOTE]

    All we had to do was support Giscard when we wanted to do it himself...

    Didn't even have to get our hands dirty...

    Sadly all of that falls on Reagan...

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4120003]As though Obama had anything to do with it. Taking Ghadafi out is going to be seen as a HUGE mistake in the coming years. Replacing the devil you know with the one you don't. It will take 10-20 years for Lybia to stabilize and there is little to no American interest in Lybia. They only product 1% of the worlds oil. It would have been better and cheaper to just increase American output.[/QUOTE]

    Yeah Obama had nothing to do with Bin Laden getting killed he only increased the amount of troops in Afghanistan from 30,000 when he took office to 100,000 thus putting an insanely greater amount of heat on him than the previous administration ever did. He also had nothing to do with ordering the bombing of Ghaddafi's forces (a move that was politically unpopular in this country) and providing aid to the rebels.

    As far as Ghaddafi goes that is just a ridiculous statement. If that's the case why depose any brutal dictator - you never know maybe the replacement is worse. Ghaddafi has only been up America's Ass for the past 40 years.
    Last edited by TerminatorJet; 08-29-2011 at 06:47 PM.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4120517]The one thing that has surprised me about Obama is how much of a war monger he has been. We have stepped up targeted killings under this administration. Gotten in to another war. Definitely not what I would have expected. Unfortunately his foreign policy and economic policies have been horrific. If the election was based on targeted assassinations of Al-Qaeda leaders he should win.[/QUOTE]

    Obama a war monger? He inherited two wars from the previous administration. He is drawing down forces in Iraq and doing in it in a responsible and gradual manner. He escalated the war in Afghanistan because our true enemy Osama Bin Laden was involved in that conflict and needed to die.

    Yeah we got into another war which is now basically won and did not cost the life of 1 single American servicemember and resulted in the overthrow of one of America's biggest and most long-standing enemies not to mention one of the world's worst dictators.

    I guess you conservatives can't call Obama a secret muslim or a Kenyan anymore so you have to come up with new ridiculous garbage.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4120003]
    [B]As though Obama had anything to do with it.[/B]

    Taking Ghadafi out is going to be seen as a HUGE mistake in the coming years. Replacing the devil you know with the one you don't. It will take 10-20 years for Lybia to stabilize and there is little to no American interest in Libya. They only product 1% of the worlds oil. It would have been better and cheaper to just increase American output.[/QUOTE]



    President Obama moved the folks who got OBL from hunting nit-wits in Iraq whose biggest crime as far as the USA was concerned was embarrassing President Bush to hunting America's most wanted murder hiding in Afghanistan/Pakistan. Spin it anyway you want to that was smart leadership.

    Qaddafi is a jerk-off who had it coming. All we did was spend some money and man-hours to bring him down. Now every lack-wit dictator in the world has to consider when his actions will cross the line and NATO and or the USA will lay out some more money (and no lives) to ruin his paradise. That is good stuff.

    We shall see what occurs with their oil. I think the amount of oil (I’ve heard it is 2% of worlds reserves) they have and their relatively small population (6.5 million) will push them to get it to market. But we shall see

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