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    How much money does it take?

    [URL="http://www.northjersey.com/news/GOP_rivals_make_Gov_Rick_Perry_their_main_focus_at_debate.html?page=all"]http://www.northjersey.com/news/GOP_rivals_make_Gov_Rick_Perry_their_main_focus_at_debate.html?page=all[/URL]


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    Bachmann, whose candidacy surged and then fell back in the polls in less than a month, said that “to have innocent little 12-year-old girls be forced to have a government injection through an executive order is just flat out wrong. That should never be done. It’s a violation of a liberty interest.”

    Perry said, as he has before, that it was a mistake to issue an executive order on the issue, but he defended wanting to have the vaccinations take effect.

    Bachman didn’t stop there. She said that “a big drug company that made millions of dollars because of this mandate” also had made a campaign contribution to Perry in Texas.

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    “The company was Merck, and it was a $5,000 contribution that I had received from them. I raise about $30 million. And if you’re saying that I can be bought for $5,000, I’m offended,” Perry retorted.
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    [QUOTE=Buster;4141551][URL="http://www.northjersey.com/news/GOP_rivals_make_Gov_Rick_Perry_their_main_focus_at_debate.html?page=all"]http://www.northjersey.com/news/GOP_rivals_make_Gov_Rick_Perry_their_main_focus_at_debate.html?page=all[/URL][/QUOTE]

    LOL, because, like, lobbyists and special interest groups won't contribute monies to campaigns that line up with their moneymakers, right?:rolleyes:

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    he implied he could be bought. just not for $5k.

    reminds me of an old joke:

    [QUOTE]
    At a party, a man approaches a woman and asks if she would sleep with him for $1 million. The woman says, ''I suppose I would.'' The man then inquires if she'd sleep with him for $10. The woman says, ''What do you think I am?'' To which the man replies, ''We've already established that — we're just haggling over the price.''
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    Thats a heck of a spin Buster. Almost as entertaining as your "Ponzi Scheme! Oh noes!" outrage.

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    [B]At a party, a man approaches a woman and asks if she would sleep with him for $1 million. The woman says, ''I suppose I would.'' The man then inquires if she'd sleep with him for $10. The woman says, ''What do you think I am?'' To which the man replies, ''We've already established that — we're just haggling over the price.'' [/B]


    lol - I was at that party: the "woman" was Obama, and the "man" was Lloyd Blankfein. :rofl:

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4142028]Thats a heck of a spin Buster. Almost as entertaining as your "Ponzi Scheme! Oh noes!" outrage.[/QUOTE]


    No spin needed.
    Just read the quote again.


    [QUOTE]
    "...if you’re saying that I can be bought for $5,000, I’m offended..."
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    he could have said

    [QUOTE]"...if you’re saying that I can be bought , I’m offended..."
    [/QUOTE]

    Now google "Texas pay-to-play"

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    Perry is gonna regret making that statement

    it implies he can be bought but 5k is too low.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4142088]Perry is gonna regret making that statement

    it implies he can be bought but 5k is too low.[/QUOTE]

    Only for those who think "How long ago did you stop beating your wife" is an appropriate and valuble question.

    This is lolpolitics at it's silliest and most reaching tbh. Nothign to do with policy, no real issue at all, but a created-controversy over a tossaway reply.:rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4142140]Only for those who think "How long ago did you stop beating your wife" is an appropriate and valuble question.

    This is lolpolitics at it's silliest and most reaching tbh. Nothign to do with policy, no real issue at all, but a created-controversy over a tossaway reply.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    The Governor volunteered this information, he was not asked a misleading question. Perry could have answered differently but he did not. He decided to go with sarcasm.



    PS Merck PAC donated almost $30,000 to his campaign.


    [URL="http://www.texastribune.org/library/data/search-perrys-campaign-contributions/?appSession=122375880861091"]http://www.texastribune.org/library/data/search-perrys-campaign-contributions/?appSession=122375880861091[/URL]

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    Rick Perry’s Contributions From Merck

    Mr. Perry’s rivals pounced with a vicious fervor on his decision (later withdrawn) to require young girls in his state to receive inoculations against the virus that can cause cervical cancer. During the exchange, Mrs. Bachmann reminded the audience that Mr. Perry’s former chief of staff was a lobbyist for Merck, which manufactures the vaccine, and that Mr. Perry got campaign contributions from the drug maker. Mr. Perry said the contribution was for $5,000, adding, “If you’re saying I can be bought for $5,000, I’m offended.”

    But a look at campaign finance reports shows Merck (courtesy of Merck PAC) has donated given almost $30,000 to Mr. Perry in the past 10 years. — RYAN MURPHY, The Texas Tribune

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    [URL="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/fact-check-perry-debates-himself-on-social-security/?partner=rss&emc=rss"]http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/fact-check-perry-debates-himself-on-social-security/?partner=rss&emc=rss[/URL]

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4142207]The Governor volunteered this information, he was not asked a misleading question. Perry could have answered differently but he did not. He decided to go with sarcasm.[/QUOTE]

    Sarcasm is what the question warranted. His answer was completely appropriate, and does not imply he "could be bought", anymore than Perry using "Ponzi Scheme" was somehow new, or even partisan. Many (D) and liberals have used that exact term over the years as well.

    Tbh, the fear over Perry is palpable and obvious. I havn't seen this much outright terror from you since the last time your Governor bought a sandwhich using taxpayer dollars....

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4142140]Only for those who think "How long ago did you stop beating your wife" is an appropriate and valuble question.

    This is lolpolitics at it's silliest and most reaching tbh. Nothign to do with policy, no real issue at all, but a created-controversy over a tossaway reply.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    The bigger picture is the point to which I alluded. The man accepted money from the patent holder of a non-mandated vaccine and bypassed the legislature to have it mandated in his state.

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    [QUOTE=Jetworks;4142247]The bigger picture is the point to which I alluded. The man accepted money from the patent holder of a non-mandated vaccine and bypassed the legislature to have it mandated in his state.[/QUOTE]

    Indeed, a policy I would strongly disagree with, from a politician I would not vote for personally.

    But many in this thread are making the issue his comment, not the policy in question.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4142243]Sarcasm is what the question warranted. His answer was completely appropriate, and does not imply he "could be bought", anymore than Perry using "Ponzi Scheme" was somehow new, or even partisan. Many (D) and liberals have used that exact term over the years as well.

    Tbh, the fear over Perry is palpable and obvious. I havn't seen this much outright terror from you since the last time your Governor bought a sandwhich using taxpayer dollars....[/QUOTE]


    Sure he did. He put it on the table for his foes to run with. It was the move of a cocky amateur.


    And I am not the first person to point out that Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme. Many people use the terms Republic and Democracy, Socialist and Communist & Jealousy and Envy interchangeably. That doesn't make it proper or true. SSI is not a Ponzi scheme that is a fact. And if a political opponent is wrong, you point it out.


    Again read up on Governor Perry's "Pay-to-play" record. Michele Bachmann did not hit on this by accident. In her view she got him on use of excessive government power AND on his sketchy campaign contribution record.


    As a supporter of the President I fear a Romney nomination more than Perry nomination. Perry will have a difficult time moving to the center when the General Election rolls around. He can also be easily painted as yet another smarmy Texas Republican and allow Obama to Run against President Bush again. This comment is a clear example of that. IMHO a Perry nomination concedes to the President the lions-share of the votes in the center of the electorate.

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4142333]Sure he did. He put it on the table for his foes to run with. It was the move of a cocky amateur.[/quote]

    Selective Outrage is funny. Wonder if anyoen asked Obama if he could be bought for $5,000 last cycle?

    [QUOTE]And I am not the first person to point out that Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme. Many people use the terms Republic and Democracy, Socialist and Communist & Jealousy and Envy interchangeably. That doesn't make it proper or true. SSI is not a Ponzi scheme that is a fact. And if a political opponent is wrong, you point it out.[/QUOTE]

    Emphasis on "political opponent", i.e. political hypocricy, right? Because last I checked, you've not once called out any on your political side for making the same comment.

    [QUOTE]Again read up on Governor Perry's "Pay-to-play" record. Michele Bachmann did not hit on this by accident.[/QUOTE]

    You're right, it was no accident. She hit it because it's a last ditch effort to stay in the race, somethign she won't be doing for long come primary season.....if she even makes it that long. Projecting your own motivations onto Bachmann is a stretch, she is exploiting anything left for her to regain teyh spot (Ultra-right-tea-con-faith-party) that Perry stole from her.

    [QUOTE]As a supporter of the President I fear a Romney nomination more than Perry nomination.[/QUOTE]

    I don't believe that for a second. A battle of a waffling big-govt. "moderate" Republican vs. Obama is no battle at all. Libs all vote Obama, Moderates split, Republicans stay home.

    Only a true difference of policy and position will get both bases out voting, and moderates split along policy lines. A progressive-right big-govt. Republican will never ever win vs. an actual Progressive/Liberal.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4142378]Libs all vote Obama, Moderates split, Republicans stay home.[/QUOTE]

    There is zero chance Republicans stay home in an election against Obama.

    Democrats/Liberals all vote Obama, Republicans/Conservatives all vote for the Republican candidate, and the remaining 20% will decide the winner.

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    [QUOTE=parafly;4142402]There is zero chance Republicans stay home in an election against Obama.

    Democrats/Liberals all vote Obama, Republicans/Conservatives all vote for the Republican candidate, and the remaining 20% will decide the winner.[/QUOTE]

    Oversimplification. "Bases" can and do stay home.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4142437]Oversimplification. "Bases" can and do stay home.[/QUOTE]

    Of course they can and do, but there is no chance it's going to happen with the base of the right wing in an election against Obama.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4142378]





    I don't believe that for a second. [/QUOTE]

    No, you and I are coming to different sets of conclusions taken from the facts given.

    Nothing more.

    If I were President Obama I would fear Governor Romney more than Governor Perry.

    Why would I lie about that?

    Are you feeling ok?
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    [QUOTE=parafly;4142402]There is zero chance Republicans stay home in an election against Obama.

    Democrats/Liberals all vote Obama, Republicans/Conservatives all vote for the Republican candidate, and the remaining 20% will decide the winner.[/QUOTE]

    agreed

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4142464]No, you and I are coming to different sets of conclusions taken from the facts given.

    Nothing more.

    If I were President Obama I would fear Governor Romney more than Governor Perry.

    Why would I lie about that?

    Are you feeling ok?[/QUOTE]

    Feeling fine personally. Not so much politically, as I continue to forsee an Obama domination and a much more policy-aggressive Obama 2nd term.

    As for why you'd lie, thats easy. Same reason everyone lies, to further their own causes. In this case, the big lie being rounded about is that Romney is so great, even libs might think about voting for him, and that he's a great candidate who can beat Obama (the only one!), and that he's moderate and smart, and on and on and on.

    Truth is, Romney has not a shot in hell of beating Obama, and I happen to think just about ever politically-active Liberal knows it. "Moderate" Big-Govt. Republican waffler vs. Obama? Lol, it's not even going to be close.

    Guess time will tell. Because as with McCain, I think Romney WILL win, then get his ass handed to him.

    A happy day for our resident liberals indeed. Obama II will be better (for Libs) than Obama I, I'd also be willing to bet.

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