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    Goodbye, Obama

    You are DONE

    Ex-president George W. Bush with accustomed candor once shrugged after the end of his eight-year presidency, “People were kind of tired of me.” That ennui happens eventually with most presidents. But in the case of Barack Obama, our modern Phaethon, his fiery crash is coming after 32, not 96, months.

    We can sense the national weariness with Obama in a variety of strange and unexpected ways. There is the self-pitying anguish of liberal columnists who scapegoat him for turning the public against their own leftwing agenda. The current silence of “moderate” Republicans and conservative op-ed writers who once in near ecstasy jumped ship to join Obama is deafening. A growing number of Democratic representatives and senators up for reelection do not want their partisan president to visit their districts in the runup to November 2012. Approval ratings hover around 40 percent.


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    Perhaps strangest of all, there is now a collective “Been there, done that” any time Barack Obama walks up to the podium to give yet another teleprompted speech. The speeches still are well delivered; he still has a way with the mannerisms and cadences. But even his critics pray for his sake that he does not come out with yet another embarrassing “Let me be perfectly clear,” “Make no mistake about it,” or “Let’s be honest” — as he goes back to bashing either the tired Bush bogeyman or yet another strawman Satanic reactionary who, if not for Barack Obama, supposedly would expose children to mercury, neglect roads and bridges, and finally dissolve government altogether. We have all heard ad nauseam that an eight-month-old Republican-controlled Congress has stopped Obama’s legislative agenda for three years.

    In truth, Obama is out of arrows. His quiver is bare, because he came into office as a rhetorical president without much experience or any ideas other than growing even bigger a tired big government. And now the public realizes that both the speeches and the big spending do not work. The result is that we collectively know what the president cannot any longer say — and it proves far greater than what he can say. He is well past the point of Jerry Ford’s WIN buttons or Jimmy Carter’s fist-pounding malaise speech.

    Obama cannot jawbone interest rates down — they are already at near-zero on passbook accounts. Obama cannot ask the EPA to shut down any more powerhouses or the NLRB to try to close any more new manufacturing plants. Obama cannot really ask for any more big borrowing programs — not after running up $5 trillion in new debt and getting little economic activity in response. The bogus vocabulary of “stimulus,” “shovel-ready,” and “investments” provokes laughter; it does not ensure an unemployment rate no higher than 8 percent. He cannot, with a straight face, appeal to the collective wisdom of Geithner, Goolsbee, Orszag, Romer, and Summers — or quote the predictable shrillness of Paul Krugman on the need for ever greater debt. Those academic arrows were long ago shot in vain. In truth, every classical Keynesian remedy has been tried, and we are left only with the hard work of trimming regulations, talking up business, producing more fossil fuels, and returning to budget discipline, thrift, greater productivity, and radical reform of the tax code and entitlements. What Obama might say on all that, his ideological training and shrinking base will not allow him to say — as we saw from his shunning of his own Simpson-Bowles commission.

    Obama cannot give one more speech on “civility.” He has done that for three years — only to violate his own directives by urging voters to “punish” our “enemies” and demonizing those who make over $200,000 as culpable “millionaires and billionaires,” “fat cats,” and owners of “corporate jets.” To oppose Obama is to be a “hostage” taker. The nation got Obama’s accustomed calls to cool the partisan invective while Jimmy Hoffa and Maxine Waters were slurring tea-party members as “son of a *****es” and telling them to “go straight to Hell” — confident that Barack Obama’s collective morality does not apply to them. The result is that another appeal to “civility” would now at best earn laughter.

    He cannot promise a “summer of recovery,” not after chronic 9 percent unemployment, soaring food and fuel costs, a herky-jerky stock market, near-zero growth, record deficits and debt, and the downgrading of the nation’s credit. Perhaps Obama could promise us relief of only a $1 trillion annual deficit, a return to 8 percent unemployment, $3-a-gallon gas, a steady GDP growth rate of 2 percent, holding the debt at $16 trillion, and opening a single new oil field.

    Nor can Mr. Obama any longer call for “millions of green jobs.” Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s personnel adviser, cannot any longer purr out, “Oooh. Van Jones, alright! So, Van Jones. . . . We were watching him for as long as he’s been active out in Oakland.” Between that silliness and today, there have been just too many hundreds of millions of dollars wasted in subsidizing “green” sweetheart deals that ended in bankruptcies. More calls to buy government-produced Chevy Volts I don’t think would work.

    Obama cannot promise to close Guantanamo or try KSM in Manhattan. Nor can he even continue the demagogic attacks on the Bush-Cheney national-security protocols — not when he embraced and expanded them all. In 2012 his commercials will highlight killing bin Laden in Pakistan, not closing Guantanamo or ending Predator-drone attacks. And yet, neither can Obama’s team speak any longer of “overseas contingency operations” and “man-caused disasters.” He is between the rock and the hard place of both caricaturing and adopting the policies that work when they were alleged not to work — so he is quiet on that count too.

    His address to Congress last week went nowhere. It was hyped well. It was delivered well. It was comprehensive. But Obama had nothing to say that we have not already heard from him — and that has not already failed or proved to be hypocritical.

    When the quiver is empty, the archer puts his bow away. Silence, not “This is our moment,” is the wisest course for Barack Obama now that the arrows are all gone.

    — NRO contributor Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, the editor of Makers of Ancient Strategy: From the Persian Wars to the Fall of Rome, and the author of The Father of Us All: War and History, Ancient and Modern.

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    If the Republicans don't put up an anti-science, destroy government right wing douche bag they might actually get the center to dump him.

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;4143893]You are DONE


    But even his critics pray for his sake that he does not come out with yet another embarrassing “Let me be perfectly clear,” “Make no mistake about it,” or “Let’s be honest” — as he goes back to bashing either the tired Bush bogeyman or yet another strawman Satanic reactionary

    :rotfl:

    In truth, Obama is out of arrows. His quiver is bare, because he came into office as a rhetorical president without much experience or any ideas other than growing even bigger a tired big government.

    Obama cannot jawbone interest rates down — they are already at near-zero on passbook accounts.

    Obama cannot ask the EPA to shut down any more powerhouses or the NLRB to try to close any more new manufacturing plants.

    Obama cannot really ask for any more big borrowing programs — not after running up $5 trillion in new debt and getting little economic activity in response.

    Obama cannot give one more speech on “civility.” He has done that for three years — only to violate his own directives by urging voters to “punish” our “enemies” and demonizing those who make over $200,000 as culpable “millionaires and billionaires,” “fat cats,” and owners of “corporate jets.”

    He cannot promise a “summer of recovery,” not after chronic 9 percent unemployment, soaring food and fuel costs, a herky-jerky stock market, near-zero growth, record deficits and debt, and the downgrading of the nation’s credit.

    Nor can Mr. Obama any longer call for “millions of green jobs.” there have been just too many hundreds of millions of dollars wasted in subsidizing “green” sweetheart deals that ended in bankruptcies.

    More calls to buy government-produced Chevy Volts I don’t think would work.

    Obama cannot promise to close Guantanamo or try KSM in Manhattan. Nor can he even continue the demagogic attacks on the Bush-Cheney national-security protocols — not when he embraced and expanded them all. In 2012 his commercials will highlight killing bin Laden in Pakistan, not closing

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    Holy ****! That was like watching Sonny beat the crap out of his brother-in-law with the trash can lid in [I]The Godfather[/I].

    Barry is an assclown.

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    [QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4143904]If the Republicans don't put up an anti-science, destroy government right wing douche bag they might actually get the center to dump him.[/QUOTE]

    This.

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    [B][U]Pessimism Rises as 72% See U.S. on Wrong Course[/U][/B]


    tweet7EmailPrint..Mike Dorning, On Wednesday September 14, 2011, 12:01 am EDT

    Americans’ pessimism about the economy has deepened and confidence in both political parties has fallen with only 20 percent saying the country is on the right course even as they remain divided over solutions.


    [url]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Pessimism-Rises-as-72-See-US-bloomberg-450303520.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=[/url]

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    [QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4143922]This.[/QUOTE]

    The Old Man, Viagra-Addled, shake can at cloud wing of the G.Old.P. doesn't agree with you.

    You know, AG...if you don't follow the turkey necked morons who think the internet is a series of tubes, you're essentially voting for Obummer.

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    NA NA!!

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    nice post

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    Considering not to long ago he was the "Chosen One", I think we all should have seen this coming.

    Wasn't BO supposed to "destroy" the corrupt beauracracy in DC and usher in an age of transparency, not join them. And, as I recall he was to bring in an age of liberal/democratic dominance, not leave the party in "darkness".

    The paralells between Anakin Skywalker's powers and good intentions, and his subsequent transformation into the enemy he was chosen to defeat is weirdly scary.

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrqYKFft324&feature=related[/url]

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4143986]The Old Man, Viagra-Addled, shake can at cloud wing of the G.Old.P. doesn't agree with you.

    You know, AG...if you don't follow the turkey necked morons who think the internet is a series of tubes, you're essentially voting for Obummer.

    NA!!


    NA NA!!

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    More of a Newport guy myself...

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4144020]nice post[/QUOTE]

    tks for responding....substantitive, as always

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    you want a response?

    14 months before the general election is a little early to say good bye

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4144215]you want a response?

    14 months before the general election is a little early to say good bye[/QUOTE]

    What's gonna change? Even if B.O. was reasonable enough to take practical advice and actually implement pragmatic economic policies that work, there isn't enough time to turn this economy around.

    As it is, he's doubling down on stupid.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4143986] Obummer.

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    can we stick with Obuttocks? It has Hampur written all over it.

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    by the way Obama polls 11 points better than Perry and 4 points better than Romney. How is the GOP gonna win this election? Magic?

    [IMG]http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/.a/6a0133f2dd8001970b01543564ee5c970c-800wi[/IMG]

    [url]http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/09/obama-leads-romney-by-4-perry-by-11-nationally.html#more[/url]

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4145152]by the way Obama polls 11 points better than Perry and 4 points better than Romney. [/QUOTE]

    In which states?

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    [QUOTE=Frequent Flyer;4145162]In which states?[/QUOTE]

    all of em. it's a national poll.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4145152]by the way Obama polls 11 points better than Perry and 4 points better than Romney. How is the GOP gonna win this election? Magic?

    [IMG]http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/.a/6a0133f2dd8001970b01543564ee5c970c-800wi[/IMG]

    [url]http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/09/obama-leads-romney-by-4-perry-by-11-nationally.html#more[/url][/QUOTE]

    You should look to polls that use "Likely Voters" for their information. Random polls of all households don't produce reliable results. They are better for determining trends. During a primary season polling of an incumbent vs a potantial challenger can also be somewhat misleading because if I for example am a Romney guy then when the pollster asks if it were obama vs bachman who would i vote for i may say Obama or even undecided.

    Every Rassmussen poll has Romney by 4-6 points over Obama. Obama barely got a one point bounce off of his stimulus redux speech (that was seen by 40million people). That spells horrible news for his reelection chances. It says that people have tuned him out.

    I am looking at the Republican primaries at this point as the race to determine the presidency. Do we want Perry and his Texas swagger or Romney with his "Americas CEO" image.

    If the General election were tomorrow Romney wins in a landslide, Perry could squeak by with a win, but he could actually lose as well.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4144215]you want a response?

    14 months before the general election is a little early to say good bye[/QUOTE]

    But apparently 18 months before is just right....

    [QUOTE=bitonti;4032231]jeez this whole "searching for a perfect candidate" thing is getting annoying

    let's get down to brass tax there is no perfect candidate

    the base is too far right and the independents won't vote for a loon. [B]the GOP is set up to get spanked badly in 2012. like a 40 state spanking.[/B][/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4145188]You should look to polls that use "Likely Voters" for their information.[/QUOTE]

    this was a survey of 665 registered voters

    from a non partisan organization (predicted Scott Brown victory) based out of NC

    [url]http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_US_0913925.pdf[/url]

    bottom line you can pick and choose and find a poll that you like but this thread with teh "goodbye obama" in the title is wishful thinking

    best case the GOP eeks out a tiny victory. worst case they get demolished. The "romney wins in a landslide" Scenario doesn't exist.

    the demographics are what they are... we forget because we are partisan wonk heads in a politics forum but there are more likely Obama voters than likely GOP voters in this cycle. Maybe in 2016, with a better candidate (Christie? Rubio? the Spanish Bush?) and a weaker candidate than Obama on the DEm side, there's a better GOP shot.

    But objectively the GOP are in fair to poor shape for 2012. they certainly aren't favorites to win

    and if you disagree, go to the Irish betting sites im sure you'll get crazy good odds on anyone but Obama, and you can make a mint betting against him.

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    Dear Leader has donned his safety goggles and rolled up his sleeves to pay his respects to yet another cutting edge company. Using the unknown element, Deceivium as its source of cheap renewable energy, the Amerikan Schemepunk Corporation is so forward thinking that they claim to be able to alter history to conform with the dreams of 19th century American Progressives. To Barry's way of thinking, it's well worth investing a couple of billion to get them off the ground.

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