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    SOLYNDRA....politics the Chicago way

    This scandal seems like it's going to stick...the national media is circling, and a little birdie is chirping in DC. Every day more damaging info gets leaked by someone, and the whole thing stinks. Half a billion taxpayer funds down the drain...This will hopefully be the beginning of the end of this incompetent and corrupt administration.

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;4147373]This scandal seems like it's going to stick...the national media is circling, and a little birdie is chirping in DC. Every day more damaging info gets leaked by someone, and the whole thing stinks. Half a billion taxpayer funds down the drain...This will hopefully be the beginning of the end of this incompetent and corrupt administration.[/QUOTE]

    It'll have as much legs as "this" story:

    [QUOTE][url]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20070981-503543.html[/url]

    The man Congress put in charge of auditing the billions of dollars dumped on Iraq after Saddam Hussein was toppled has told the Los Angels Times he can't rule out the possibility that $6.6 billion in cash sent from the U.S. was stolen.

    Special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction Stuart Bowen told the Times the missing money may represent "the largest theft of funds in national history."

    It was not, it is crucial to note here, U.S. tax-payer dollars which have gone missing in Iraq. The money came from a special fund set up by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York with Iraq's own money -- funds which were withheld from the nation during a decade of harsh economic sanctions under Saddam.

    Now, and here's the real kicker, Iraq wants it's money back. The Los Angeles Times says some officials in Baghdad have threatened to take the U.S. government to court to reclaim the missing loot. The last known holder of the funds, before they mysteriously disappeared into the dusty oblivion of post-war Iraq, was the U.S. government.

    "Congress is not looking forward to having to spend billions of our money to make up for billions of their money that we can't account for, and can't seem to find," Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.) told the Times. Waxman was head of the House Government Reform Committee which held hearings on U.S. waste, fraud and abuse in Iraq about six years ago.[/QUOTE]


    I'm from the GOP:

    Iraq [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o38/fishooked/emoticons/RAGE0116.png[/IMG]


    Obama. Solar. [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o38/fishooked/emoticons/RAGE0079.png[/IMG]


    Halliburton. Iraq. Gay freedom is on the gay march. [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o38/fishooked/emoticons/RAGE0116.png[/IMG]


    Obama. Environment. [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o38/fishooked/emoticons/RAGE0079.png[/IMG]


    Money on pallets. Accounting?? [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o38/fishooked/emoticons/RAGE0116.png[/IMG]

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    the problem with solendra is that it didn't work. if it worked it would be a success story.

    ironically the cheap solar panels coming out of China doomed this venture. So the headline is Solar company fails, but the real story is that solar is cheaper than ever and rapidly becoming a legitimate option.

    Side note I know a friend of my fathers who is a huge tea party dude. Hes really nice most of the time but will occasionally have a couple dozen drinks and tell me how my generation is a bunch of pu$$ies for not wanting to pick fruit in a migrant situation.

    Anywho this guy has gold, silver, shotguns stored away and ya know what else? Solar panels on his house

    if you want to get off the grid, or seriously lower costs, Solar is a smart bet. Smarter than buying all our energy from a terrorist country or ruining the environment with drilling gone wrong. IT's rapidly becoming dirt cheap and that's why the solendra loan went south.

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    Why is the US taxpayer funding venture capitalist investments, which typically have a low chance of success? If O'idjiot had gotten cap and tax passed, solar may have had a better chance...whoever is leaking the juicy emails coming from the co. And Admin, tks very much!!!

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;4147811]Why is the US taxpayer funding venture capitalist investments[/QUOTE]

    Why is US taxpayer funding being used to bring socialized medicine to Iraq?

    Ever stop to think of that?

    Nope.


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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4148560]Why is US taxpayer funding being used to bring socialized medicine to Iraq?

    Ever stop to think of that?

    Nope.


    GOP WORLD!! PARTY TIME!! EXCELLENT!![/QUOTE]

    you always try to sidetrack threads with stupid statements...like you're friggin clever or something. You are not

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;4148582]you always try to sidetrack threads with stupid statements...like you're friggin clever or something. You are not[/QUOTE]

    lmao...


    So there you have it, folks.

    People who said nothing about spending billions in Iraqistan should keep their traps shut about spending...in America... 1/12th of that amount.

    When you bring it up...they get TSD....

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4147389]It'll have as much legs as "this" story:

    [/QUOTE]

    or this one:


    [QUOTE]

    The dismissal of U.S. Attorneys controversy was initiated by the unprecedented midterm dismissal of seven United States Attorneys on December 7, 2006 by the George W. Bush administration's Department of Justice. Congressional investigations focused on whether the Department of Justice and the White House were using the U.S. Attorney positions for political advantage. Allegations were that some of the attorneys were targeted for dismissal to impede investigations of Republican politicians or that some were targeted for their failure to initiate investigations that would damage Democratic politicians or hamper Democratic-leaning voters. The U.S. attorneys were replaced with interim appointees, under provisions in the 2005 USA PATRIOT Act reauthorization

    [/QUOTE]
    [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy[/URL]

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4149568]or this one:



    [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy[/URL][/QUOTE]

    Wow things are that bad in Obama land, eh??

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4149568]or this one:[/QUOTE]

    Or this:


    [QUOTE]Halliburton Questioned on $1.8 Billion Iraq Work - WSJ
    Reuters

    Wednesday 11 August 2004

    New York - Pentagon auditors have concluded that Halliburton Co. failed to adequately account for more than $1.8 billion of work in Iraq and Kuwait, the Wall Street Journal said on Wednesday, citing a Pentagon report.

    The amount represents 43 percent of the $4.18 billion that Houston-based Halliburton's Kellogg Brown & Root unit has billed the Pentagon to feed and house troops in the region, the newspaper said.

    It said the findings in the 60-page Pentagon audit report, dated Aug. 4 but not publicly released are likely to increase pressure on the U.S. government to withhold hundreds of millions of dollars of payments to Halliburton.

    This, it said, potentially threatens the services that KBR provides U.S. troops and other personnel in Iraq and Kuwait. [/QUOTE]


    Republicans.

    Because wasting 6 billion on a 3rd world terrorist country is patrio-orgasmic...

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    From the Chicago Tribune- the people who know him best. Go ahead, PK...try to hijack the thread & change the subject AGAIN


    Obama's Solyndra scandal reeks of the Chicago Way
    Those of us from Chicago know exactly what the Solyndra scandal smells like. And It doesn't smell fresh and green.

    The Solyndra scandal cost at least a half-billion public dollars. It is plaguing President Barack Obama. And it's being billed as a Washington story.

    But back in Obama's political hometown, those of us familiar with the Chicago Way can see something else in Solyndra — something that the Washington crowd calls "optics." In fact, it's not just a Washington saga — it has all the elements of a Chicago City Hall story, except with more zeros.

    The FBI is investigating what happened with Solyndra, a solar panel company that got a $535 million government-backed loan with the help of the Obama White House over the objections of federal budget analysts.

    Obama and Vice President Joe Biden got a nice photo op. They got to make speeches about being "green." But then Solyndra went bankrupt. Americans lost jobs. Taxpayers got stuck with the bill. And members of Congress are now in high dudgeon and making speeches.

    Federal investigators want to know what role political fundraising played in the guarantee of the questionable loan. Washington bureaucrats warned the deal was lousy. And White House spokesmen flail desperately, like weakened victims in a cheesy vampire movie.

    So forget optics. What about smell? It smells bad, and it's going to smell worse.

    Or, did you really believe it when the White House mouthpieces — who are also Chicago City Hall mouthpieces — promised they were bringing a new kind of politics to Washington?

    This is not a new kind of politics. It's the old kind. The Chicago kind.

    And now the Tribune Washington Bureau has reported that the U.S. Department of Energy employee who helped monitor the Solyndra loan guarantee was one of Obama's top fundraisers.

    Fundraising? Contracts? Imagine that.

    Steve Spinner was the Obama administration official in charge of handing out billions and billions of tax dollars to "green" energy deals. According to the Tribune story, Spinner the other day invited Obama's national political finance committee to a meeting in Chicago.

    The name of the Obama fundraising initiative?

    "Technology for Obama."

    The idea of the Obama fundraisers getting together, talking "green," and perhaps offering taxpayer loan guarantees to insider businesses in the interest of helping the environment — it all seems rather fresh.

    Like a mountain meadow.

    Until you realize it's the same old politics, the same kind practiced in Washington and Chicago and anywhere else where appetites are satisfied by politicians. When the government picks winners and losers, who's the loser? Just look in the mirror, hold that thought, and tell me later.

    Republicans are hoping to hang this around Obama's political neck, and they're doing a good job of it now because his approval ratings are low and the jobless numbers are abysmal and the Democrats are in full killer-rabbit panic. But there have been Republican national scandals, too, and they're always ridiculously and depressingly similar.

    At least in Illinois our scandals are quite ecumenical, with Republicans eager to help Democrats steal whatever they can grab.

    In Solyndra, like any proper City Hall political scandal, there are similar archetypes.

    There are the guys who count. The guys who bring the cash. They count because they do the counting. They have leverage. They're always there at the fundraisers. And so they're the ones who are allowed to gorge at the public trough.

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;4149630]From the Chicago Tribune- the people who know him best. Go ahead, PK...try to hijack the thread & change the subject AGAIN


    Obama's Solyndra scandal reeks of the Chicago Way
    Those of us from Chicago know exactly what the Solyndra scandal smells like. And It doesn't smell fresh and green.

    The Solyndra scandal cost at least a half-billion public dollars. It is plaguing President Barack Obama. And it's being billed as a Washington story.

    But back in Obama's political hometown, those of us familiar with the Chicago Way can see something else in Solyndra — something that the Washington crowd calls "optics." In fact, it's not just a Washington saga — it has all the elements of a Chicago City Hall story, except with more zeros.

    The FBI is investigating what happened with Solyndra, a solar panel company that got a $535 million government-backed loan with the help of the Obama White House over the objections of federal budget analysts.

    Obama and Vice President Joe Biden got a nice photo op. They got to make speeches about being "green." But then Solyndra went bankrupt. Americans lost jobs. Taxpayers got stuck with the bill. And members of Congress are now in high dudgeon and making speeches.

    Federal investigators want to know what role political fundraising played in the guarantee of the questionable loan. Washington bureaucrats warned the deal was lousy. And White House spokesmen flail desperately, like weakened victims in a cheesy vampire movie.

    So forget optics. What about smell? It smells bad, and it's going to smell worse.

    Or, did you really believe it when the White House mouthpieces — who are also Chicago City Hall mouthpieces — promised they were bringing a new kind of politics to Washington?

    This is not a new kind of politics. It's the old kind. The Chicago kind.

    And now the Tribune Washington Bureau has reported that the U.S. Department of Energy employee who helped monitor the Solyndra loan guarantee was one of Obama's top fundraisers.

    Fundraising? Contracts? Imagine that.

    Steve Spinner was the Obama administration official in charge of handing out billions and billions of tax dollars to "green" energy deals. According to the Tribune story, Spinner the other day invited Obama's national political finance committee to a meeting in Chicago.

    The name of the Obama fundraising initiative?

    "Technology for Obama."

    The idea of the Obama fundraisers getting together, talking "green," and perhaps offering taxpayer loan guarantees to insider businesses in the interest of helping the environment — it all seems rather fresh.

    Like a mountain meadow.

    Until you realize it's the same old politics, the same kind practiced in Washington and Chicago and anywhere else where appetites are satisfied by politicians. When the government picks winners and losers, who's the loser? Just look in the mirror, hold that thought, and tell me later.

    Republicans are hoping to hang this around Obama's political neck, and they're doing a good job of it now because his approval ratings are low and the jobless numbers are abysmal and the Democrats are in full killer-rabbit panic. But there have been Republican national scandals, too, and they're always ridiculously and depressingly similar.

    At least in Illinois our scandals are quite ecumenical, with Republicans eager to help Democrats steal whatever they can grab.

    In Solyndra, like any proper City Hall political scandal, there are similar archetypes.

    There are the guys who count. The guys who bring the cash. They count because they do the counting. They have leverage. They're always there at the fundraisers. And so they're the ones who are allowed to gorge at the public trough.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;4149630]From the Chicago Tribune- the people who know him best. Go ahead, PK...try to hijack the thread & change the subject AGAIN


    Obama's Solyndra scandal reeks of the Chicago Way
    Those of us from Chicago know exactly what the Solyndra scandal smells like. And It doesn't smell fresh and green.

    The Solyndra scandal cost at least a half-billion public dollars. It is plaguing President Barack Obama. And it's being billed as a Washington story.

    But back in Obama's political hometown, those of us familiar with the Chicago Way can see something else in Solyndra — something that the Washington crowd calls "optics." In fact, it's not just a Washington saga — it has all the elements of a Chicago City Hall story, except with more zeros.

    The FBI is investigating what happened with Solyndra, a solar panel company that got a $535 million government-backed loan with the help of the Obama White House over the objections of federal budget analysts.

    Obama and Vice President Joe Biden got a nice photo op. They got to make speeches about being "green." But then Solyndra went bankrupt. Americans lost jobs. Taxpayers got stuck with the bill. And members of Congress are now in high dudgeon and making speeches.

    Federal investigators want to know what role political fundraising played in the guarantee of the questionable loan. Washington bureaucrats warned the deal was lousy. And White House spokesmen flail desperately, like weakened victims in a cheesy vampire movie.

    So forget optics. What about smell? It smells bad, and it's going to smell worse.

    Or, did you really believe it when the White House mouthpieces — who are also Chicago City Hall mouthpieces — promised they were bringing a new kind of politics to Washington?

    This is not a new kind of politics. It's the old kind. The Chicago kind.

    And now the Tribune Washington Bureau has reported that the U.S. Department of Energy employee who helped monitor the Solyndra loan guarantee was one of Obama's top fundraisers.

    Fundraising? Contracts? Imagine that.

    Steve Spinner was the Obama administration official in charge of handing out billions and billions of tax dollars to "green" energy deals. According to the Tribune story, Spinner the other day invited Obama's national political finance committee to a meeting in Chicago.

    The name of the Obama fundraising initiative?

    "Technology for Obama."

    The idea of the Obama fundraisers getting together, talking "green," and perhaps offering taxpayer loan guarantees to insider businesses in the interest of helping the environment — it all seems rather fresh.

    Like a mountain meadow.

    Until you realize it's the same old politics, the same kind practiced in Washington and Chicago and anywhere else where appetites are satisfied by politicians. When the government picks winners and losers, who's the loser? Just look in the mirror, hold that thought, and tell me later.

    Republicans are hoping to hang this around Obama's political neck, and they're doing a good job of it now because his approval ratings are low and the jobless numbers are abysmal and the Democrats are in full killer-rabbit panic. But there have been Republican national scandals, too, and they're always ridiculously and depressingly similar.

    At least in Illinois our scandals are quite ecumenical, with Republicans eager to help Democrats steal whatever they can grab.

    In Solyndra, like any proper City Hall political scandal, there are similar archetypes.

    There are the guys who count. The guys who bring the cash. They count because they do the counting. They have leverage. They're always there at the fundraisers. And so they're the ones who are allowed to gorge at the public trough.[/QUOTE]

    Yeah but Bush 5 years ago, 5 years ago Bush Bush Iraqistan, 5 years ago. Obama good, you racist. Bush 2006. Sand look funny at this depth, it tickle my nostrils.

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    Didn't the article state Biden's office was pushing this? Wouldn't have been the Delaware way? No state sales tax!

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;4149630]From the Chicago Tribune- the people who know him best. Go ahead, PK...try to hijack the thread & change the subject AGAIN[/QUOTE]

    Just answer this:

    Are you against taxpayer funds being wasted?

    Simple enough question....

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;4149630]From the Chicago Tribune- the people who know him best. Go ahead, PK...try to hijack the thread & change the subject AGAIN
    [/QUOTE]
    PK?

    Suggest something that doesn't happen to be true (like, for instance that Obama has AIDS) and PK gets as dry and clinical as a Law & Order detective using DNA evidence to crack a cold murder case.

    Think of him as Richard Belzer of JI.

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    [QUOTE=sackdance;4150566]PK?

    Suggest something that doesn't happen to be true (like, for instance that Obama has AIDS) and PK gets as dry and clinical as a Law & Order detective using DNA evidence to crack a cold murder case.

    Think of him as Richard Belzer of JI.[/QUOTE]

    lolz...

    Jeez, Sack. I thought you'd be proud of me for not jumping in and going all "GEORGE WILLLLL WHARGHARBLE!!!" :)

    Contrary to popular belief, I can sniff BS (some of the time). I read George Will more often than you'd probably guess and realized he's too sound to have said something as preposterous as that...even if he was just trying to be "metaphor-a-liscious"....he's have a better one up his sleeve...

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4147609]the problem with solendra is that it didn't work. if it worked it would be a success story.[/QUOTE]

    It's going to be tough to blame this one on the Bush administration but I believe you'll find a way.

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    House to launch probe of Obama actions on Solyndra-

    quick, bring up Iraq-istan!

    Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said Tuesday that his committee plans to investigate government loan programs to private corporations in light of allegations of improper dealings between the White House and failed energy company Solyndra and wireless start-up LightSquared.

    "I want to see when the president and his cronies are picking winners and losers… it wasn't because there were large contributions given to them," the chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee said Tuesday morning on C-SPAN.


    Issa said the committee was looking at whether it was improper for members of Congress or White House staff to select companies eligible for subsidized government loans when those companies could give campaign donations. Loan programs have been a popular tool to provide funding for popular industries — like tech, green energy, and American auto companies — at more favorable terms than could be secured privately.

    The Obama administration has been defending itself against criticism by Republicans that it exerted improper influence to the aid of both companies.

    Solyndra abruptly filed for bankruptcy earlier this month, surprising both employees and the administration, which had secured $535 million in low-interest loans for the company.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;4151561]quick, bring up Iraq-istan![/QUOTE]

    So...you ARE against taxpayer funds being wasted?

    Excellent....

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