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    Reports point to Christie reconsidering getting into presidential race

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    Saturday, September 24, 2011

    BY GINGER GIBSON

    STATE HOUSE BUREAU


    TRENTON -- And the buzz keeps getting louder.

    The steady drum beat of calls for Gov. Chris Christie to run for president took a turn today as reports emerged that the first-term governor is rethinking his decision to stay out of the race.

    But those close to the governor say any suggestion that he would get into the 2012 race are wrong and simply the product of wishful thinking.

    As recently as Thursday, Christie said he's not planning to make a run for the White House next year.

    Today, The New York Post, citing an unnamed source close to the governor, reported that Christie is giving a second thought to running for president. Newsmax, a conservative website, yesterday also reported that Christie was giving a bid renewed consideration.

    Politico, a Washington DC political publication, cited two Beltway fundraisers as saying that Christie could be moving toward changing his mind. But the publication went on to say it was unlikely.

    Politco's Mike Allen, citing someone "familiar with Christie's" said the possibility was unlikely, partly because it would be a tall task to try to overcome Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

    "Newsmax is wrong," Bill Palatucci, a close friend of Christie, said Friday night. "Quote me."

    Unhappiness with the current slate of GOP candidates has driven talk of Christie getting into the race. The party has yet to get excited about a Romney candidacy and Perry's debate performances have left some in the GOP looking elsewhere. The field remains packed, including Minnesota U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, Texas U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorium and former Godfather's Pizza CEO Herman Cain.

    A group of pundits are also pushing the Christie for president mantra. Paul Gigot of the The Wall Street Journal has penned several pieces calling on Christie to change his mind. The Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol pegged Christie as the only possible candidate who could beat Obama. The Washington Post's Jennifer Rubin even wrote up a fake announcement schedule for the governor to declare a bid for president.

    At an event with Christie on Thursday, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels said he's still not taking "no" from the governor, although he wouldn't go further to say if he is talking about the current election cycle or a bid in 2016.

    Christie has remained consistent, saying from the beginning that he won't consider a bid for president. It hasn't stopped Republican donors from traveling to New Jersey in an attempt to convince him to change his mind. A group of donors traveled this spring from Iowa to try to court him for a run. Several high-dollar donors and hedge fund managers met with Christie this summer in New York to try to talk him into reversing his decision.

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    dubious claims

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    Christie has been wonderful for New Jersey. This is a guy that gets is. In NJ he got bipartisan public sector union reforms passed. BIPARTISAN! Thats unthinkable. He would make a wonderful President. That said I don't think he will run. I like Romney alot too but Christie is up there with Rubio and Mitch Daniels as my top GOP politicians.

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    NJ has $50+ billion in unfunded liabilities

    NJ has a 9.7 unemployment rate

    NJ had its bond rating dropped from AA to AA-

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    the unending call for Christie is proof that the religious right doesn't support Romney.

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    The GOP is going to f this up.

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    I hope he waits. I would like to support a candidate that has reasonable experience, and would like to see him govern in NJ a bit longer to see how he problem soves.

    We see the fiasco we have in place now with a guy who never held a job with any responsibility.

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    [QUOTE=Piper;4160696]I hope he waits. I would like to support a candidate that has reasonable experience, and would like to see him govern in NJ a bit longer to see how he problem soves.

    We see the fiasco we have in place now with a guy who never held a job with any responsibility.[/QUOTE]

    While I agree I would like to see him complete a term as governor Christie's background is night and day when compared with the community organizer. Christie spent 6 years "as the chief federal law enforcement officer in New Jersey from January 17, 2002 to December 1, 2008. His office included 137 attorneys, with offices in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newark,_New_Jersey"]Newark[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trenton,_New_Jersey"]Trenton[/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camden,_New_Jersey"]Camden[/URL]. Christie also served as one of the 17 U.S. Attorneys on Attorney General [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Gonzales"]Alberto Gonzales[/URL]' [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney_General%27s_Advisory_Committee_of_United_States_Attorneys"]advisory committee[/URL]."

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4160776]While I agree I would like to see him complete a term as governor Christie's background is night and day when compared with the community organizer. Christie spent 6 years "as the chief federal law enforcement officer in New Jersey from January 17, 2002 to December 1, 2008. His office included 137 attorneys, with offices in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newark,_New_Jersey"]Newark[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trenton,_New_Jersey"]Trenton[/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camden,_New_Jersey"]Camden[/URL]. Christie also served as one of the 17 U.S. Attorneys on Attorney General [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Gonzales"]Alberto Gonzales[/URL]' [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney_General%27s_Advisory_Committee_of_United_States_Attorneys"]advisory committee[/URL]."[/QUOTE]

    Christies job as the U.S Attorney is a political appt job, he takes credit the good and hides from the bad. Not exactly a tough job. Being on anything Gonzalez related is not a good thing.

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4160375]NJ has $50+ billion in unfunded liabilities

    NJ has a 9.7 unemployment rate

    NJ had its bond rating dropped from AA to AA-[/QUOTE]

    All true. NJ also has been governed by Democrats for years. The legislature remains Democrat and has been for years. It is a state plagued by scandal and corruption. Christie is doing a great job fixing the mess left to him. NJ hadn't made a contribution to the State Pension fund in more then 10 years. Last year they made their first.

    The difference between a Politician like Barry and Christie is that Christie is taking steps to fix things. Barry is doubling down on the policies that got us in to trouble and not even attempting to find solutions. Another difference is that Christie has been successful in reaching across the aisle and bringing the opposition party on board with his ideas. Barry has no such ability.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4160823]All true. NJ also has been governed by Democrats for years. The legislature remains Democrat and has been for years. It is a state plagued by scandal and corruption. Christie is doing a great job fixing the mess left to him. NJ hadn't made a contribution to the State Pension fund in more then 10 years. Last year they made their first.

    The difference between a Politician like Barry and Christie is that Christie is taking steps to fix things. Barry is doubling down on the policies that got us in to trouble and not even attempting to find solutions. Another difference is that Christie has been successful in reaching across the aisle and bringing the opposition party on board with his ideas. Barry has no such ability.[/QUOTE]

    And I don't think I have ever heard Christie crying about the hand he was dealt by his predecessor.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4160838]And I don't think I have ever heard Christie crying about the hand he was dealt by his predecessor.[/QUOTE]

    No he blames unions for everything and then wants the federal govt to give him money.

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    I want Christie to run, just so I can watch Buster have a coniption fit for the next year and a half.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4160981]I want Christie to run, just so I can watch Buster have a coniption fit for the next year and a half.[/QUOTE]

    Every cop and teacher in NJ would have a party!

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4160989]Every cop and teacher in NJ would have a party![/QUOTE]

    I know plenty of public workers and teachers who appreciate what Christie is trying to accomplish.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4160823]All true. NJ also has been governed by Democrats for years. The legislature remains Democrat and has been for years. It is a state plagued by scandal and corruption. Christie is doing a great job fixing the mess left to him. [B]NJ hadn't made a contribution to the State Pension fund in more then 10 years[/B]. Last year they made their first.

    The difference between a Politician like Barry and Christie is that Christie is taking steps to fix things. Barry is doubling down on the policies that got us in to trouble and not even attempting to find solutions. Another difference is that Christie has been successful in reaching across the aisle and bringing the opposition party on board with his ideas. Barry has no such ability.[/QUOTE]



    Not true.

    Governor Corzine made partial payments his first 3 years as Governor. That was until the stock market crashed. Getting the pension system healthy was part of his campaign platform.



    [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/22/nyregion/new-jersey/22pensionnj.html"]www.nytimes[/URL]

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    Mr. Corzine included about $3 billion in pension contributions in his first three state budgets. But this year, as the economy soured and tax revenues plunged, he cut his proposed payment by $784 million, opting to pay only $500 million into the system this June, said Tom Vincz, a Treasury Department spokesman.
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    Governor Christie is dealing with reasonable men willing to compromise. President Obama has 50 congressmen who will vote for nothing unless it is exactly what they want.

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4161170]
    Governor Christie is dealing with reasonable men willing to compromise. President Obama has 50 congressmen who will vote for nothing unless it is exactly what they want.[/QUOTE]

    There are 300 plus congressmen in the house. You are worried about 50 or so of them that caucus as the Tea Party? Those are offest by the CBC. Obama cant get his own party to introduce his new stimulus plan. His budget was voted down 97-0 in the senate. Now we have Senate Democrats ready to shut down the government over cutting a measly 3 billion to fund FEMA.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4160838]And I don't think I have ever heard Christie crying about the hand he was dealt by his predecessor.[/QUOTE]



    Really?

    [URL="http://www.northjersey.com/news/opinions/108343659_Christie_can_be_a_bit_sloppy_with_scapegoats.html"]http://www.northjersey.com_Christie_can_be_a_bit_sloppy_with_scapegoats.html[/URL]



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    ...It's a lonely and unforgiving place for late-career patronage hires, late-career school officials and a former governor who spent $100 million sorting out a mid-life career crisis. He has branded them as selfish or cowardly caretakers of the public weal. They are beyond redemption.

    Trotting them out for a news-cycle slam has its pitfalls. Christie can be sloppy, diving into diatribes without always having his facts in order, as we learned in the "Race to the Top" fiasco in August. And some targets are singled out more for being Democrats, while Republican offenders are treated with kid gloves...
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    Former Gov. Jon Corzine.

    No former governor has taken such a humiliating, almost daily kick-in-the-pants like Corzine. Christie refuses to let him fade into anonymity or into an overpriced oil painting on a State House wall. He blames the Democrat for masking the depth of the state's fiscal woes, for speeding up work on a now-defunct Hudson rail tunnel to curry reelection favor with labor, or cowardly averting NJ Transit fare hikes. The list goes on.

    The strategy is pretty clear. Attacking Corzine evokes a kind of subconscious sympathy for Christie and buys him time. "He's left me with the mess to mop up," he complains.

    It also contrasts Christie as the problem-solver, with Corzine, the problem-maker. And as long as voters remain angry and impatient for results, Corzine's name will be summoned for a public flogging.

    It's worth noting that Christie has pinned the state's festering fiscal problems on past Republican regimes, but rarely by name. Not much is said specifically about Christie Whitman's pension bond deal or Republican acting Gov. Donald T. DiFrancesco's 9-percent boost in public employee pensions in 2001, a decision so reckless and costly that the federal Securities and Exchange Commission described it as the root of a colossal fraud.

    People are not angry at Whitman and DiFrancesco. They have faded into the honey-glow of history. Corzine is still fresh in the voter's memory they only dumped the guy from office a year ago. And besides, Whitman and DiFrancesco sit on the advisory board of Reform Jersey Now," the non-profit group created to promote Christie's agenda. You don't bash members of the team.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4161187]There are 300 plus congressmen in the house. You are worried about 50 or so of them that caucus as the Tea Party? Those are offest by the CBC. Obama cant get his own party to introduce his new stimulus plan. His budget was voted down 97-0 in the senate. Now we have Senate Democrats ready to shut down the government over cutting a measly 3 billion to fund FEMA.[/QUOTE]

    Ther are 435 congressmen in the house

    Republicans voted with the Democrats in the senate to "shut down the government"

    There has NEVER been offsets included in emergency disaster funding.

    You can try to blame this on Democrats but it will not work.

    Governor Christie (your hero) is saying pass the bill without cuts

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4161225]Really?

    [URL="http://www.northjersey.com/news/opinions/108343659_Christie_can_be_a_bit_sloppy_with_scapegoats.html"]http://www.northjersey.com_Christie_can_be_a_bit_sloppy_with_scapegoats.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

    Well, I still haven't heard it... though I have read it now.

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