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    Sanchez vs Flacco

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    Sanchez has Qb rating of 83 to Flacco's 75.
    12 Td's to Flacco's 8
    both picked 6 times.
    Both sacked 16 times.
    Sanchez completes 55% to Flacco's 53%

    Sanchez had zero running game for weeks. Flacco has one of the best rb's in NFL.
    If Flacco is Elite, then Sanchez is what?
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    whats their rating on madden 12' with roster updates?!

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    [QUOTE=Mathis81;4215646][url]http://espn.go.com/nfl/hot?id=7178216[/url]


    Sanchez has Qb rating of 83 to Flacco's 75.
    12 Td's to Flacco's 8
    both picked 6 times.
    Both sacked 16 times.
    Sanchez completes 55% to Flacco's 53%

    Sanchez had zero running game for weeks. Flacco has one of the best rb's in NFL.
    If Flacco is Elite, then Sanchez is what?[/QUOTE]

    While I love Joe (UDel alum!) who's calling him elite? He's an average nfl qb. Mark most of the time is an average qb, who tends to play really well when all of the pressure is on.

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    not a statue? :D

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    [QUOTE=Sexi Rexi;4215657]While I love Joe (UDel alum!) who's calling him elite? He's an average nfl qb. Mark most of the time is an average qb, who tends to play really well when all of the pressure is on.[/QUOTE]

    Clayton calls him elite. Never hear him ripped like Sanchez is. Must be a NY thing.

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    Simms on Inside the NFL called Flacco elite as well

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    Flacco did have a [B]pretty good[/B] year, last year. Maybe they're basing this "elite" status off of that?

    Also, you're talking about Clayton and Simms here. Not exactly known for their love of the Jets.

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    These are the same asshoIes that said Josh Freeman is an elite QB

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    John Clayton's an elite toolbag.

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    Flacco's good, I think he has the potential to be really good, but I don't think anyone can really call him "elite" at this point. People love to throw terminology around but "elite" should be saved for the, well, elites like Manning, Brady, Rodgers and Brees.
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    [QUOTE=Green&White51;4215735]Flacco's good, I think he has the potential to be really good, but I don't think anyone can really call him "elite" at this point. People love to throw terminology around but "elite" should be saved for the, well, elites like Manning, Brady, Rodgers and Brees.[/QUOTE]
    I believe you're throwing the term around too. If you take away the current season Rodgers is NOT an ELITE QB. Obviously he won the superbowl and he's tearing it up right now, but there were a few games last year where he really didn't produce. Not to mention he has experienced and very skilled wr's. If he keeps running house like what he's doing now for the rest of the year I think you can start calling him elite. As for now I don't think he deserves to be considered on the same level as Brady and Peyton or Brees.

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    Phil Simms also has a lot of praise and respect for Sanchez. Not exactly the analyst to quote for the "honest" opinion of one particular player.


    In the end, Sanchez > Flacco

    It's really not that much of a debate. Flacco sucks in the playoffs and really is just not much of an impressive QB. Not saying Sanchez is impressive, but he's shown flashes and for 2 consecutive years has stepped up his game during the playoffs.

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    flacco is very limited as a qb. he needs a good team around him to make plays. i don't see the same with sanchez. sanchez has way more mobility and good enough accuracy and arm strength to be a really good qb.

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    [QUOTE=aagarcia;4215679]Simms on Inside the NFL called Flacco elite as well[/QUOTE]

    Simms should worry about his own kids...

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    Flacco is not elite.

    Brady, Brees, Rodgers, P. Manning, Roethlisberger, and Rivers (though he hasn't played like it this season) are elite. No one else is outside possibly Eli Manning.

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    I don't like comparing Sanchez to contemporaries. I prefer to compare him to older QB's
    at the same point of their career. Curiously, Sanchez is very comparable stat-wise to Tom Brady.
    Here are their stats after their first 38 games.

    Brady 771/1238; 62.2%; 8075 yds; 6.5 ypa; 54 td; 33 int; 22 fumbles
    Sanchez 603/1102; 54.7%; 7280 yds; 6.6 ypa; 41 td; 39 int; 16 fumbles

    It should be noted that Brady had 1 year in the NFL under his belt before becoming the starting
    QB and Sanchez started his first game as a rookie. So, one would expect Brady's stats to be better
    after his first 38 games.

    Some judge QB's by wins. So, here is their records through 38 regular season games.

    Brady 25-13
    Sanchez 23-15

    None of this included playoff stats or records. Here is their playoff records
    and stats through the same point of their careers.

    Brady 60/97; 61.9%; 572 yds; 5.9 ypa; 1 td; 1 int; 3 wins, 0 losses
    Sanchez 95/137; 60.5%; 1155 yds ; 7.4 ypa; 9 td; 3 int; 4 wins, 2 losses


    People can obviously draw thier own conclusions. My conclusion is that Sanchez is doing
    just fine, has proven to be at his best in crunch time, and has a very high ceiling. I don't know
    that he'll ever be as good as Brady is right now, but their is really nothing you can point to and
    say Sanchez has no chance of ever being as good as Brady.

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    [QUOTE=BIGKIDD325;4215788]Flacco is not elite.

    Brady, Brees, Rodgers, P. Manning, Roethlisberger, and [B]Rivers (though he hasn't played like it this season)[/B] are elite. No one else is outside possibly Eli Manning.[/QUOTE]

    I don't think you can make that distinction.

    Elite QBs don't play the way Rivers has this year. Sure, if the OL was depleted or something like that -- but he's been his own worst enemy, and that should never describe an "elite" talent . . .

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    People use the term "elite" far too often. IMO, elite means top two or three in the game. It's better than being a pro bowler. Clayton is a buffoon.

    This year, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are elite, with Ben Roehtlisberger and Eli Manning knocking on the door.

    Joe Flacco isn't even sniffing elite.

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    Flacco is worse than Sanchez its plain as day...Flacco's ceiling is much, much lower. His Pocket presence isn't close nor is his escapability and mobility. Flacco's arm may be a little stronger but Sanchez has a good enough arm to make any nfl throw. Both are tough. Both struggle with their accuracy from time to time but when the the chips are down im taking sanchez to win a game for me over Flaccostein

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    Entering November 2011 QB rankings..this is gonna be strange..first time in a long time Peyton Manning is not in the top 1 or 2


    Rodgers, Packers
    Brady, Patriots
    Brees, Saints
    Roethlisberger, Steelers
    Manning, Giants
    Vick, Eagles
    Newton, Panthers
    Stafford, Lions
    Schaub, Texans
    Rivers, Chargers
    Fitzpatrick, Bills
    Sanchez, Jets
    Ryan, Falcons
    Cutler, Bears
    Romo, Cowboys
    Freeman, Bucanneers
    Flacco, Ravens
    Ponder, Vikings
    Cassel, Chiefs
    Dalton, Bengals
    Smith, 49ers
    Hasselbeck, Titans
    McCoy, Browns
    Kolb, Cardinals
    Palmer, Raiders
    Bradford, Rams
    Painter, Colts
    Gabbert, Jaguars
    Tebow, Broncos
    Moore, Dolphins
    Beck, Redskins
    Jackson, Seahawks

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