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Thread: Step Away From the Ledge: Positives from the Jets Loss to New England

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    Step Away From the Ledge: Positives from the Jets Loss to New England

    Look, the team sucked. Every coach and every active player made at least one crucial mistake at some point in the game. But let's dig in a bit.

    The major mistakes were self-inflicted wounds. The biggest blunders involve: a missed chip shot field goal, a muffed punt, a premature timeout call, a missed catch, and a dropped interception. None of these mistakes were induced by the opposition.

    This team was not dominated in any one way other than Andre Carter having some sort of re-birth, and the no-huddle drive engineered by Brady. The Jets lack of ability to close the door on the opponent allowed the Patriots to experience their success.

    We know what this team is capable of doing. They should have realistically had a 17-6 (ish) lead heading into halftime. This would have led to a Shonn Greene gash fest and Rex Ryan blitz bonanza in the second half. Those self-inflicted wounds precluded this from happening.

    We know we have the talent. A lot of teams need a wake-up call to make a deep run. Let's consider this the wake-up call.

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    [QUOTE=JamaicanJetFan;4232765]Look, the team sucked. Every coach and every active player made at least one crucial mistake at some point in the game. But let's dig in a bit.

    The major mistakes were self-inflicted wounds. The biggest blunders involve: a missed chip shot field goal, a muffed punt, a premature timeout call, a missed catch, and a dropped interception. None of these mistakes were induced by the opposition.

    This team was not dominated in any one way other than Andre Carter having some sort of re-birth, and the no-huddle drive engineered by Brady. The Jets lack of ability to close the door on the opponent allowed the Patriots to experience their success.

    We know what this team is capable of doing. They should have realistically had a 17-6 (ish) lead heading into halftime. This would have led to a Shonn Greene gash fest and Rex Ryan blitz bonanza in the second half. Those self-inflicted wounds precluded this from happening.

    We know we have the talent. A lot of teams need a wake-up call to make a deep run. Let's consider this the wake-up call.[/QUOTE]

    so where's the positive? that we beat ourselves? somehow that makes me feel worse.

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    hahaha wake up call... this team keeps hitting the snooze button on their wake up calls.

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    Basically:

    We're not Buffalo, we have actual talent.
    We're not Philadelphia, we still have a chance at a deep run.

    We've been in much worse shape and still rolled to the AFC title game.

    The mistakes are all correctable mistakes. Seriously, there was a perfect storm of horrific events...self-induced blunders, pass rushers tripping on the turf before being able to tackle Brady, Holmes stumbling instead of cruising to a TD, etc. It took a perfect storm of awful play and unluckiness for NE to have that TD lead and eventually pull away.

    The season's far from over.

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    [QUOTE=JamaicanJetFan;4232765]Look, the team sucked. Every coach and every active player made at least one crucial mistake at some point in the game. But let's dig in a bit.

    The major mistakes were self-inflicted wounds. The biggest blunders involve: a missed chip shot field goal, a muffed punt, a premature timeout call, a missed catch, and a dropped interception. None of these mistakes were induced by the opposition.

    This team was not dominated in any one way other than Andre Carter having some sort of re-birth, and the no-huddle drive engineered by Brady. The Jets lack of ability to close the door on the opponent allowed the Patriots to experience their success.

    We know what this team is capable of doing. They should have realistically had a 17-6 (ish) lead heading into halftime. This would have led to a Shonn Greene gash fest and Rex Ryan blitz bonanza in the second half. Those self-inflicted wounds precluded this from happening.

    We know we have the talent. A lot of teams need a wake-up call to make a deep run. Let's consider this the wake-up call.[/QUOTE]

    I completely agree with this. Up until the last 8 minutes or so...the Jets were actually playing a very good football (minus those glaring errors) which doesn't help, but it does say they are talented enough to beat the Pats, just can't beat themselves.

    The Pats don't beat themselves, you have to take it from them. The score does not really indicate the talent level of the two teams.

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    Add Holmes's stumble & fall on his way to the end zone before the missed FG.

    Hopefully a lesson was learned. IF we make the playoffs, and IF we play them again we have to run, run, run. Take a shot here & there, but grind it out all game long. That Patriot hurry-up offense was not a self-inflicted wound. The key is still to keep Brady off the field.

    [QUOTE=JamaicanJetFan;4232765]Look, the team sucked. Every coach and every active player made at least one crucial mistake at some point in the game. But let's dig in a bit.

    The major mistakes were self-inflicted wounds. The biggest blunders involve: a missed chip shot field goal, a muffed punt, a premature timeout call, a missed catch, and a dropped interception. None of these mistakes were induced by the opposition.

    This team was not dominated in any one way other than Andre Carter having some sort of re-birth, and the no-huddle drive engineered by Brady. The Jets lack of ability to close the door on the opponent allowed the Patriots to experience their success.

    We know what this team is capable of doing. They should have realistically had a 17-6 (ish) lead heading into halftime. This would have led to a Shonn Greene gash fest and Rex Ryan blitz bonanza in the second half. Those self-inflicted wounds precluded this from happening.

    We know we have the talent. A lot of teams need a wake-up call to make a deep run. Let's consider this the wake-up call.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=AJAX40;4232790]hahaha wake up call... this team keeps hitting the snooze button on their wake up calls.[/QUOTE]

    What phone has a snooze button?

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    [QUOTE=bentonjetsfan;4232815]Add Holmes's stumble & fall on his way to the end zone before the missed FG.

    Hopefully a lesson was learned. IF we make the playoffs, and IF we play them again we have to run, run, run. Take a shot here & there, but grind it out all game long. That Patriot hurry-up offense was not a self-inflicted wound. The key is still to keep Brady off the field.[/QUOTE]

    The running game looked great, but on those early possessions they kept getting sacked and making 2nd 16's - forcing them to get away from the run...

    Then they could just never get a lead to go back to the ground and pound.

    Greene was getting 6 yards a pop. Had the Jets had the ball with a lead it may have been a very different game.

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    [QUOTE=JamaicanJetFan;4232797]Basically:

    We're not Buffalo, we have actual talent.
    We're not Philadelphia, we still have a chance at a deep run.

    We've been in much worse shape and still rolled to the AFC title game.

    The mistakes are all correctable mistakes. Seriously, there was a perfect storm of horrific events...self-induced blunders, pass rushers tripping on the turf before being able to tackle Brady, Holmes stumbling instead of cruising to a TD, etc. It took a perfect storm of awful play and unluckiness for NE to have that TD lead and eventually pull away.

    The season's far from over.[/QUOTE]

    i agree the season isn't over....but reality is the jets NEEDED that game....the fact it was a ***** slapping didn't help.

    season is definitely not over...this thursday a win is an absolute MUST.

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    [QUOTE]Positives from the Jets Loss to New England[/QUOTE]

    On the bright side, we got swept, and have almost no chance now to win the division, or host a host a home playoff game.

    Oh, wait, thats not positive at all! :(

    Sorry, my bad, there is no "positive" from last night.

    Jets had to win. The failed, badly and sloppily, on National TV.

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    Without all the unforced errors( including the early timeout by Sanchez) this game could have ended better

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    just saved a bunch of money on playoff tickets

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    [QUOTE=JamaicanJetFan;4232797]Basically:

    We're not Buffalo, we have actual talent.
    We're not Philadelphia, we still have a chance at a deep run.

    We've been in much worse shape and still rolled to the AFC title game.

    The mistakes are all correctable mistakes. Seriously, there was a perfect storm of horrific events...self-induced blunders, pass rushers tripping on the turf before being able to tackle Brady, Holmes stumbling instead of cruising to a TD, etc. It took a perfect storm of awful play and unluckiness for NE to have that TD lead and eventually pull away.

    The season's far from over.[/QUOTE]

    +1

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    Mo Wilkerson made a few plays and consistently drew double-teams :dunno: All I got as far as positives.

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    My hope is that the Jets Brain trust does not "look at the bright side" but instead take the opprtunity to critically evaluate what they have and what they need to do to improve. I fear the deep playoff runs of the past two seasons may have caused them to fail to address some problems that could have and should have been addresssed: FS, OLB, OC. These are the Jets greatest needs with OC being the most glaring and easiest to address.

    Why do Flacco and Ryan seem more polished than Sanchez? They have better OC's. They know the OC's job does not end after he creates a playbook. Schotty's players do not buy into his system. Heck, the HC does not buy into it. The Jets do not even know what they are. They spend all this money on skill positions with Plax, Tone and LT. Do we want to throw the ball to them or ground and pound with our 3d year 4th round RB?

    It is Rex's failure to understand what he wants the O to be and making it happen. He has this great desire to just hand off all responsibility to Schotty but when things don't go well, Rex wants to ground and pound. Well, if that's what Rex wanted then we should have spent $$ and/or high draft picks on LG and RT to get some Road Graders in there and found a punishing RB who can carry the load or share it with Greene. While there at it, why have a talented pass catching TE like Keller if your not going to throw it to him and you'd rather ground and pund with a guy like Kyle Brady at TE.

    Rex needs to figure this whole O thing out and put his own OC in. If he wants to pass, he's already got the players for it. If he wants to ground and pound he needs to upgrade LG and RT, get a blocking TE, second RB capable of carrying the load, and stop spending so much money on Recievers we never intend to throw the ball to. While he's at it, he might as well bring CP back to manage the game.

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    [QUOTE=JamaicanJetFan;4232765]Look, the team sucked. Every coach and every active player made at least one crucial mistake at some point in the game. But let's dig in a bit.

    The major mistakes were self-inflicted wounds. The biggest blunders involve: a missed chip shot field goal, a muffed punt, a premature timeout call, a missed catch, and a dropped interception. None of these mistakes were induced by the opposition.

    [B]This team was not dominated in any one way other than Andre Carter[/B] having some sort of re-birth, and the no-huddle drive engineered by Brady. The Jets lack of ability to close the door on the opponent allowed the Patriots to experience their success.

    We know what this team is capable of doing. They should have realistically had a 17-6 (ish) lead heading into halftime. This would have led to a Shonn Greene gash fest and Rex Ryan blitz bonanza in the second half. Those self-inflicted wounds precluded this from happening.

    We know we have the talent. A lot of teams need a wake-up call to make a deep run. Let's consider this the wake-up call.[/QUOTE]

    Rob Gronkowski says hello. Give the other team some credit. Geez.

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    [QUOTE=sect313;4232839]just saved a bunch of money on playoff tickets[/QUOTE]

    Haha, there is a positive! I will be able to focus on some other things on sunday now, tuning out this constantly underachieving team. At least the Texans are doing well.

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    [QUOTE=Jets Things;4232819]What phone has a snooze button?[/QUOTE]

    You think you may be taking it a little too literal there professor...

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    Here in Charlotte everyone knows I am a JETS fan.... at the gym this morning someone said

    "Well the good news is...They looked better than the Panthers".


    Lipstick on a pig IMO.

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    [QUOTE=SONNY WERBLIN;4232856]My hope is that the Jets Brain trust does not "look at the bright side" but instead take the opprtunity to critically evaluate what they have and what they need to do to improve. I fear the deep playoff runs of the past two seasons may have caused them to fail to address some problems that could have and should have been addresssed: FS, OLB, OC. These are the Jets greatest needs with OC being the most glaring and easiest to address.

    Why do Flacco and Ryan seem more polished than Sanchez? They have better OC's. They know the OC's job does not end after he creates a playbook. Schotty's players do not buy into his system. Heck, the HC does not buy into it. The Jets do not even know what they are. They spend all this money on skill positions with Plax, Tone and LT. Do we want to throw the ball to them or ground and pound with our 3d year 4th round RB?

    It is Rex's failure to understand what he wants the O to be and making it happen. He has this great desire to just hand off all responsibility to Schotty but when things don't go well, Rex wants to ground and pound. Well, if that's what Rex wanted then we should have spent $$ and/or high draft picks on LG and RT to get some Road Graders in there and found a punishing RB who can carry the load or share it with Greene. While there at it, why have a talented pass catching TE like Keller if your not going to throw it to him and you'd rather ground and pund with a guy like Kyle Brady at TE.

    Rex needs to figure this whole O thing out and put his own OC in. If he wants to pass, he's already got the players for it. If he wants to ground and pound he needs to upgrade LG and RT, get a blocking TE, second RB capable of carrying the load, and stop spending so much money on Recievers we never intend to throw the ball to. While he's at it, he might as well bring CP back to manage the game.[/QUOTE]

    + 1

    The FA acquisitions (and guys let go) and draft picks seem to indicate and a high flying passing game, yet the HC seems to want a strong running game.

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