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    How does removing Shotty fix Sanchez?

    Think about it.

    Sanchez is inaccurate and gets down on himself after mistakes. His teammates and coaches all see this.

    Which type of offense would allow Sanchez to excel?

    The answer: the same one he's in now, but with new OC leadership.

    My personal feeling is there is a rift between the QB and OC, and that it's been there for awhile. And it's not going to go away unless the OC or
    Sanchez goes away. And we know who wins that battle...

    Prediction: Jets miss the playoffs, bring in a new OC and 2 new safeties, and make a SB run next year.

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    Sanchez was awful last night.

    He has no pocket presence whatsoever. He needs to be able to feel pressure and react - he was horrible.

    The problem with the Jets offense is not the OC but the QB. The sooner the Jets face this issue the sooner they will be able to begin the process of finding their QB of the future.

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    No joke, I really think the next OC is going to come in and see the mindset installed by Schotty on Sanchez and just be taken aback by what he has been taught and the check down system he has learned. It'd be like opening the hood of a car and just seeing it in such disarray you have no idea how this car even goes.

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    It doesn't. He should be better at this point, Shottenheimer or not. End of story.

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    Norv Turner will get canned after the season. If Rex hasnt burned that bridge, bring him in. He is an excellent OC.

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    How come when QBs like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are on the sideline, you always see an offensive coach sitting next to them going over photos of the defensive schemes, but when Mark Sanchez is on the sideline you see him moping, picking his fingernails, and wiping boogers on Mark Brunell?

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    [QUOTE=Klingon;4232799]How come when QBs like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are on the sideline, you always see an offensive coach sitting next to them going over photos of the defensive schemes, but when Mark Sanchez is on the sideline you see him moping, picking his fingernails, and wiping boogers on Mark Brunell?[/QUOTE]

    Or eating a hot dog. Good point though.

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    It doesn't fix Sanchez. In fact it will probably hurt him.

    BUT. Schotty is horrible. He is more concerned with confusing other teams and making himself look smart than he is with winning. Jets end up confusing themselves with this offense. They need to simplify.

    Sanchez has limitations that will never overcome. He is what he is, but the team can win with him if they tailor an offense to help him.

    Schotty is a losing coach. It is in his pedigree.

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    [QUOTE=Klingon;4232799]How come when QBs like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are on the sideline, you always see an offensive coach sitting next to them going over photos of the defensive schemes, but when Mark Sanchez is on the sideline you see him moping, picking his fingernails, and wiping boogers on Mark Brunell?[/QUOTE]

    i was wondering that too. don't they discuss how to improve? it's as if the offensive players know their system is flawed so there's no reason to try to fix it.

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    [QUOTE=Klingon;4232799]How come when QBs like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are on the sideline, you always see an offensive coach sitting next to them going over photos of the defensive schemes, but when Mark Sanchez is on the sideline you see him moping, picking his fingernails, and wiping boogers on Mark Brunell?[/QUOTE]

    or on that stupid exercise bike!!!

    What is that all about - he's an NFL QB - does he really need to be riding an exercise bike?

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    Shotty was kept on the job precisely to oversee Sanchez's development. He has failed at that. So why is he still here? Shotty has had at least three QB's to work with now and has failed all of them. Sanchez has had one OC to work with so far and hasn't progressed. Which is the more obvious move? Which person still at least has a chance to do something positive? its not rocket science here.

    If Sanchez still sucks with a different OC, then, well, he sucks. But you can't trash him without trashing the OC that was supposed to develop him into the franchise QB

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    [QUOTE=Jetspennyfan;4232795]No joke, I really think the next OC is going to come in and see the mindset installed by Schotty on Sanchez and just be taken aback by what he has been taught and the check down system he has learned. It'd be like opening the hood of a car and just seeing it in such disarray you have no idea how this car even goes.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed Penny. Sanchez will be a much better QB, once Schotty hits the highway.

    Question: Does anyone really believe that Alex Smith has more ability than Mark Sanchez? Of course not. It's Harbaugh's system that's making the difference. The same thing could happen in New York, with the correct OC hiring and Rex's agreement to get out the way and hand the offense over.

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    [QUOTE=fidelioion;4232811]or on that stupid exercise bike!!!

    What is that all about - he's an NFL QB - does he really need to be riding an exercise bike?[/QUOTE]

    If this is sarcasm, you should have included :rolleyes:

    If it's not sarcasm, then clearly you don't know anything.

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    It doesn't.

    We have two problems.

    1. The Shotty System

    2. The Slow and Ponderous Development of Mark Sanchez

    Dealing with #1 might help a little with #2, but #2 is more on Sanchez himself.

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    [QUOTE=Jets Things;4232830]If this is sarcasm, you should have included :rolleyes:

    If it's not sarcasm, then clearly you don't know anything.[/QUOTE]

    Sorry :-)

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    Here's how --

    Schotty's system, statistically at least, hurts QBs. Pennington put up better numbers before and after him. Favre did the same.

    Before we bail on Sanchez, we need to see what a better offensive mind can get out of him. Look how awful Alex Smith was for years, and how he's playing now that he has a HC that knows what he's doing.

    I'd really like to see a guy known as a QB guru come in and work with our offense. Schotty has proven over the years he simply doesn't get the most from his QBs -- it's not just Sanchez.

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    [QUOTE=SDJETS;4232816]Shotty was kept on the job precisely to oversee Sanchez's development. He has failed at that. So why is he still here? Shotty has had at least three QB's to work with now and has failed all of them. Sanchez has had one OC to work with so far and hasn't progressed. Which is the more obvious move? Which person still at least has a chance to do something positive? its not rocket science here.

    If Sanchez still sucks with a different OC, then, well, he sucks. But you can't trash him without trashing the OC that was supposed to develop him into the franchise QB[/QUOTE]

    This.

    I want a new OC to see if he can get Sanchez to progress further/faster. If another voice can't do it well then you draft a new QB. But I think one change at OC is worth a shot to see if Sanchez, a QB who has shown potential, can be the real deal before cutting the cord.

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    EX. Alex Smith and the 49ers. Now With Harbaugh he finding himself as a qb in the NFL

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    [QUOTE=TheMo;4232867]This.

    I want a new OC to see if he can get Sanchez to progress further/faster. If another voice can't do it well then you draft a new QB. But I think one change at OC is worth a shot to see if Sanchez, a QB who has shown potential, can be the real deal before cutting the cord.[/QUOTE]

    Look what a change of OC's did for Jim Plunkett,Rich Gannon,Vinny,Chad with the Fins,Drew Bree's,Alex Smith etc..

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    [QUOTE=Austin;4232852]Here's how --

    Schotty's system, statistically at least, hurts QBs. Pennington put up better numbers before and after him. Favre did the same.

    Before we bail on Sanchez, we need to see what a better offensive mind can get out of him. Look how awful Alex Smith was for years, and how he's playing now that he has a HC that knows what he's doing.

    I'd really like to see a guy known as a QB guru come in and work with our offense. Schotty has proven over the years he simply doesn't get the most from his QBs -- it's not just Sanchez.[/QUOTE]

    For people here who remember Jason who used to post here (he now posts exclusively on his own site and provides GREAT game write-ups). He wrote this back in 2008 and explained how Schotty's scheme encourages INTs.
    [url]http://nyjetscap.com/Schottenheimer.html[/url]

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