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    Rep. Barney Frank won't seek re-election

    A day to celebrate. 1 down 434 to go. Time to start over. Term limits for the senate are due too.

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    [B][URL="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/28/rep-barney-frank-wont-seek-re-election/"][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#000000]Rep. Barney Frank won't seek re-election[/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][/B]

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    [B](CNN)[/B] - Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank, a 16-term Democrat, will announce Monday he does not intend to seek re-election in 2012, according to a statement from Frank's office.
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    [QUOTE]a 16-term Democrat[/QUOTE]

    32 Years in Office.

    Term Limits anyone?

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4255005]A day to celebrate. 1 down 434 to go. Time to start over. Term limits for the senate are due too.[/QUOTE]

    Wonder if his anus hurts as much as the taxpayers he has been *ucking for 32 years.

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    There must be some scandal or federal investigation looming.

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    [QUOTE=Bonhomme Richard;4255052]There must be some scandal or federal investigation looming.[/QUOTE]

    It never stopped him before.

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    everyone loves the idea of term limits. they have em in many state legislatures what you find is that everyone is new, no one actually knows how to be a politician. You get all these dudes learning on the go and when they finally know how to do the job their term limits are reached. It's one of those ideas that is much better in theory than in practice.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4255080]everyone loves the idea of term limits. they have em in many state legislatures what you find is that everyone is new, no one actually knows how to be a politician. You get all these dudes learning on the go and when they finally know how to do the job their term limits are reached. It's one of those ideas that is much better in theory than in practice.[/QUOTE]

    Agree to disagree.

    I like the idea that they "don't know how to be a politician". We're not voting for Politicians, we're voting for representatives, remember. The two are not neccessarily mutually inclusive.

    And leanring on the job is fine, it may mean they have less of a vested long-term interest in profiteering, political empire building, and outright obstruction.

    Best of all, I believe term limits supoorts third party opportunity. It's not a wasted vote anymore to give a third party a term (or two) to see how they do.

    Life-Term Politicians are a huge portion of why Washington is as broken, devisive and corrupt as it is. Guys like this are effectively a ruling class of mafia like dons, with far too much power, and far too little time actually serving the people.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4255112]Agree to disagree.

    I like the idea that they "don't know how to be a politician". We're not voting for Politicians, we're voting for representatives, remember. The two are not neccessarily mutually inclusive.

    And leanring on the job is fine, it may mean they have less of a vested long-term interest in profiteering, political empire building, and outright obstruction.

    Best of all, I believe term limits supoorts third party opportunity. It's not a wasted vote anymore to give a third party a term (or two) to see how they do.

    Life-Term Politicians are a huge portion of why Washington is as broken, devisive and corrupt as it is. Guys like this are effectively a ruling class of mafia like dons, with far too much power, and far too little time actually serving the people.[/QUOTE]

    I do think term limits should have an exception for elected officials with broad mandates. If 65% of the electorate thinks you're doing a good job, you should be allowed to run for another term.

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    I actually believe that a 2 year term for Congress is too short. What ends up happening is that the incumbent spends more time campaigning and fundraising than actually representing... unless you're a lifer like Frank and become complacent with the status quo.

    I think Congress should have a 4 year term limited to 3 terms. Senators should have the same amount of time, 6 year terms capped at 2. 12 years is more than enough time to try to create real, positive change in the district or state you represent.

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;4255215]I do think term limits should have an exception for elected officials with broad mandates. If 65% of the electorate thinks you're doing a good job, you should be allowed to run for another term.[/QUOTE]

    How do you determine that except for elections? So if an incumbent come up against his term limit and only gets 62% of the vote, does the runner up get the job? Would drastically change the candidate field that year too, no?

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;4255215]I do think term limits should have an exception for elected officials with broad mandates. If 65% of the electorate thinks you're doing a good job, you should be allowed to run for another term.[/QUOTE]

    An idea designed specificly to re-elected gerimandered district perma-politicians?

    And I have to ask.....65% of the electorate, or 65% of actual voters? Thats a big difference.

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    [QUOTE=Bonhomme Richard;4255225]I actually believe that a 2 year term for Congress is too short. What ends up happening is that the incumbent spends more time campaigning and fundraising than actually representing... unless you're a lifer like Frank and become complacent with the status quo. [/quote]

    Agreed. I'd like to see 4 years terms as well, for both House and Senate, but caped at two terms, just like the Presidency. One election, every four years, for all the seats around.

    Fact is, after 8 years in Washington, even the best have lost touch completely with teh people they are supposed to represent. Hell, most of them by that point have lost touch with everything in society at large by that point.

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    Maxine Waters in line to take over from Frank on Financial Services

    Talk about being careful for what you ask for...

    [QUOTE][B]Maxine Waters in line to take over from Frank on Financial Services :eek:
    [/B]By Peter Schroeder - 11/28/11 12:29 PM ET

    Wall Street executives are bracing for the possibility that Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) will take over as the senior Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee after Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) retires.

    Waters is in line for Frank’s spot and could become chairwoman of the panel if Democrats retake the House. Frank announced Monday that he will not seek another term in the House.

    The California liberal is considered left of Frank, an architect of 2010’s Wall Street reform bill, on financial issues.

    While banks and other financial institutions often battled Frank, he was seen as someone they could work with. Wall Street views Waters as more of an opponent.

    “She's not a good face of the issues,” one financial executive said. “She's too much of a bomb thrower.”

    Democratic leaders may look to someone other than Waters, the second-ranking Democrat on the panel, to take over for Frank.

    Waters is wrestling with a long-running ethics investigation over whether she helped secure federal funding for a bank in which her husband owned stock and previously served as a board member. Waters has maintained her innocence, and two attorneys on the House ethics committee were placed on leave for mishandling the case. An outside attorney is now investigating the matter.

    “They're going to go with people who are universally respected,” said the financial executive. But a trade group president and former Hill staffer believed the top spot is Waters's to lose. This source pointed out that Waters brings geographical and racial diversity to the committee.

    Jumping over Waters to another Democrat would also be a headache for Democratic leaders because it would risk angering the Congressional Black Caucus.

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    I hear he's going to pursue his lifelong dream of touring with Elton John. He's hoping he can be the guy who pushes his stool in.

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    If Ted Kennedy was the Lion of the Senate, is Barney Frank the Lioness of the House?

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4255050]Wonder if his anus hurts as much as the taxpayers he has been *ucking for 32 years.[/QUOTE]

    Before opening the thread, I set the over/under for number of replies before the first homophobic comment at 3.5. Congrats on realizing the under.

    [QUOTE=bitonti;4255080]everyone loves the idea of term limits. they have em in many state legislatures what you find is that everyone is new, no one actually knows how to be a politician.[/QUOTE]

    And that's a bad thing? Maybe they will actually govern instead of waste our time and money doing nothing and speaking in talking points and campaign slogans.

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    [QUOTE=parafly;4255529]
    And that's a bad thing? Maybe they will actually govern instead of waste our time and money doing nothing [/QUOTE]

    alot of the "doing nothing" is party-level. You can nominate Popeye the Sailor man to the GOP congressman's seat he's not going to break with his party to pass a bill.

    also I think people underrate how hard it is to be a politician. Like you can just take a CEO from some company and he'd be just as good. There are certain skills involved in being a politician and it's not the same as the world of business. or that a guy with 3 decades of gov't experience is just as good at being a congressman as joe blow off the street. that's tea party thinking and it's already proven to be a failure (Sharon Angle, Christine OConnell, this walsh dude who yells at his constituents)

    here's another question if there are term limits, who is the speaker of the house? or runs the committees? Term limits destroys the idea of seniority.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4255607]alot of the "doing nothing" is party-level. You can nominate Popeye the Sailor man to the GOP congressman's seat he's not going to break with his party to pass a bill.

    also I think people underrate how hard it is to be a politician. Like you can just take a CEO from some company and he'd be just as good. There are certain skills involved in being a politician and it's not the same as the world of business. or that a guy with 3 decades of gov't experience is just as good at being a congressman as joe blow off the street. that's tea party thinking and it's already proven to be a failure (Sharon Angle, Christine OConnell, this walsh dude who yells at his constituents)

    here's another question if there are term limits, who is the speaker of the house? or runs the committees? Term limits destroys the idea of seniority.[/QUOTE]

    TLDR Translation:

    It's all the GOP's fault. All lifetime Liberal (D) Legislators are the perfect balance of Honour and Integrity, the perfect embodiment of Democracy in action! Gooooooooo (D)!

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4255616]TLDR Translation:
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    You have 50 congressmen all on their 3rd and final term, who is the speaker.?

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4255607]alot of the "doing nothing" is party-level. You can nominate Popeye the Sailor man to the GOP congressman's seat he's not going to break with his party to pass a bill.

    also I think people underrate how hard it is to be a politician. Like you can just take a CEO from some company and he'd be just as good. There are certain skills involved in being a politician and it's not the same as the world of business. or that a guy with 3 decades of gov't experience is just as good at being a congressman as joe blow off the street. that's tea party thinking and it's already proven to be a failure (Sharon Angle, Christine OConnell, this walsh dude who yells at his constituents)

    here's another question if there are term limits, who is the speaker of the house? or runs the committees? Term limits destroys the idea of seniority.[/QUOTE]

    Your idea of a good politician is the cleanest professional bullsh*tter. Although that's clearly the golden standard of the day, it's a broken system which needs to be fixed in my view.

    Seniority is good for organizational structure in situations where people "move up" or "outrank" others. An assembly of elected and theoretically equal set of officials is the last place it's needed. If push comes to shove, we can figure out a better way to determine speakers and committee heads.

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