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    [QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4257921]I almost went that route but he threw in they had to take a job for less money to help support the kid(s)...

    For a single parent, this is logical. For a two parent working household, this is illogical.

    Live off one check if daycare is absorbing the funds that the secondary spouse is providing...[/QUOTE]

    And why exactly do we need to send these kids to $1,000/week day care centers? I can find a $10/hour college-aged babysitter any day of the week (this is exactly what I do twice a week). More than likely you can spend less than that in other parts of the country. Can't find a job that at least covers that $10/hour? Stay home and take care of your kid. You already have welfare safety nets in place. Or find a friend or family member that can watch your kid. Act like an adult and find a way - your kids should be your primary concern. Nothing else matters.

    This whole thing is possibly the most absurd thing I've ever heard. If there are people that truly believe this is even a viable idea speaks volumes about why we are where we are. Where does it end?

    Know what else is expensive? The car I need to drive to work. Maybe I should get that subsidized from the government too. :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4257958]Government involvement in daycare..the whole thought is such a telling fact about how liberals think.

    It will drive up costs, drive out competition, increase government spending on all the "social workers" needed to monitor the centers. Increased taxes bla bla bla....



    In effect, it will drive UP costs. yet this seems oblivious to some. How can government involvement reduce the REAL cost of anything. they simply subsidize it.[/QUOTE]

    The gov't is already involved, licensing, I guess you feel that there should be zero gov't oversight when it comes to the safety of children?

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4257958]In effect, it will drive UP costs. yet this seems oblivious to some. How can government involvement reduce the REAL cost of anything. they simply subsidize it.[/QUOTE]

    Exactly. Which is why the military should be privatized. Think of all the cost savings a private company would bring. Think about how cheap maintaining our nuclear arsenal would be if a private, for-profit company was doing it.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4257958]Government involvement in daycare..the whole thought is such a telling fact about how liberals think.

    It will drive up costs, drive out competition, increase government spending on all the "social workers" needed to monitor the centers. Increased taxes bla bla bla....



    In effect, it will drive UP costs. yet this seems oblivious to some. How can government involvement reduce the REAL cost of anything. they simply subsidize it.[/QUOTE]



    And the point you miss most of all: Federal day care centers will allow our government to indoctrinate children in the liberal mentality they see as fit.
    All very Hitleresque (or as bit and PK may prefer - Stalinesque).
    There are plenty of "for profit" day care centers everywhere and have been for awhile. Babysitters at night? Have a teen do it or don't go out. Life is tough - had baby sitters cancel sometimes. We dealt with it.
    Pelosi is an idiot. Any statement she makes is "on the record" in her position. A trial balloon.

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    [QUOTE=palmetto defender;4258021]And the point you miss most of all: Federal day care centers will allow our government to indoctrinate children in the liberal mentality they see as fit.
    All very Hitleresque (or as bit and PK may prefer - Stalinesque).
    There are plenty of "for profit" day care centers everywhere and have been for awhile. Babysitters at night? Have a teen do it or don't go out. Life is tough - had baby sitters cancel sometimes. We dealt with it.
    Pelosi is an idiot. Any statement she makes is "on the record" in her position. A trial balloon.[/QUOTE]

    Well Done sir...Well done!

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4257960]And why exactly do we need to send these kids to $1,000/week day care centers? I can find a $10/hour college-aged babysitter any day of the week (this is exactly what I do twice a week). More than likely you can spend less than that in other parts of the country. Can't find a job that at least covers that $10/hour? Stay home and take care of your kid. You already have welfare safety nets in place. Or find a friend or family member that can watch your kid. Act like an adult and find a way - your kids should be your primary concern. Nothing else matters.

    This whole thing is possibly the most absurd thing I've ever heard. If there are people that truly believe this is even a viable idea speaks volumes about why we are where we are. Where does it end?

    Know what else is expensive? The car I need to drive to work. Maybe I should get that subsidized from the government too. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    You're the best.........................................:rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4258007]Exactly. Which is why the military should be privatized. Think of all the cost savings a private company would bring. Think about how cheap maintaining our nuclear arsenal would be if a private, for-profit company was doing it.[/QUOTE]

    Stay on topic and on your meds....;)

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4258030]Stay on topic and on your meds....;)[/QUOTE]

    Government sucks at everything. That's why we haven't won a war in half a century.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4258029]You're the best.........................................:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    Way to take a stance on the topic

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4258044]Government sucks at most everything. .[/QUOTE]

    fixed.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4258054]fixed.[/QUOTE]

    Oh.

    So the same agency you say is incapable of delivering junk mail, you trust with a nuclear arsenal?

    That's like saying "oh no, I NEVER leave my children unattended. Well, except for the times I let Michael Jackson babysit for me..." :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4257958]Government involvement in daycare..the whole thought is such a telling fact about how liberals think.

    It will drive up costs, drive out competition, increase government spending on all the "social workers" needed to monitor the centers. Increased taxes bla bla bla....



    In effect, it will drive UP costs. yet this seems oblivious to some. How can government involvement reduce the REAL cost of anything. they simply subsidize it.[/QUOTE]

    Except, in this case, the competition has not helped to keep costs down. There are times throughout history when government has had to step in to regulate and it worked. Again, there are many hard working middle and lower class families that HAVE to work to provide. The cost have not gone down despite the competition. That is a fact.
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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4258094]Except, in this case, the competition has not helped to keep costs down. There are times throughout history when government has had to step in to regulate and it worked. Again, there are many hard working middle and lower class families that HAVE to work to provide. [B]The cost have not gone down despite the competition.[/B] That is a fact.[/QUOTE]

    Link? So demand has been static and supply went up yet costs remained the same?

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4258094]Except, in this case, the competition has not helped to keep costs down. There are times throughout history when government has had to step in to regulate and it worked. Again, there are many hard working middle and lower class families that HAVE to work to provide. The cost have not gone down despite the competition. That is a fact.[/QUOTE]

    Please provide an example? I can tell you, the costs to run a REAL daycare center (a franchise for example) is out of control. The rents are usually $10,000 a month, salaries are $10,000 a month, food, administration etc...

    The owners of these places are making LESS than most cops and teachers yet you want to regulate the "excess cost" out?

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4257361]In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater.

    The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. [B]The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. [/B] [/QUOTE]

    Then start a business. The system of capitalism we have in this country is such that voids in profitable endeavors are filled very quickly, especially in an environment of high unemployment. These parents have plenty of alternatives....if they don't, then capitalize on that by providing a quality service at a good price!

    [QUOTE] In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed.[/QUOTE]

    You must have forget your smilie or a :P

    What greed are you talking about?
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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4258142]Please provide an example? I can tell you, the costs to run a REAL daycare center (a franchise for example) is out of control. The rents are usually $10,000 a month, salaries are $10,000 a month, food, administration etc...

    The owners of these places are making LESS than most cops and teachers yet you want to regulate the "excess cost" out?[/QUOTE]

    So tell your owners to become a cop or teacher.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4258148]So tell your owners to become a cop or teacher.[/QUOTE]

    Maybe they aren't working for maximum profit but instead because they want to run their own business and feel they are providing a service.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4258148]So tell your owners to become a cop[/QUOTE]

    They don't have enough cans of pepper spray.

    [QUOTE]... or teacher.[/QUOTE]

    like Hytch Cawke? :P

    [QUOTE]BOSTON – A high school English teacher in Boston has been placed on paid leave as the school investigates allegations he recently appeared in pornographic movies, MyFoxBoston.com reports.

    Kevin Hogan is an English teacher and crew coach at the top-rated public high school Mystic Valley Regional Charter School in Malden, Massachusetts.
    Hogan has worked at the school since September. In addition to his coaching and teaching duties, he also chairs the high school’s English department.

    However, MyFoxBoston reports he can also be found on the Internet and in adult entertainment stores under his screen name: [B]Hytch Cawke.[/B]

    His movie credits include “Fetish World” and “Just Gone Gay 8,” and MyFoxBoston found his third movie, whose title is not appropriate to print, in a local adult store. It features him answering an ad to have sex for money.

    Now Hogan will have to answer to his school, which placed him on paid leave while they conduct their own investigation.

    It’s not the kind of news the school is used to. Just this year, Newsweek magazine named Mystic Valley one of the best high schools in the country and fourth best public high school in Massachusetts....(continued)
    [/QUOTE]

    [url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/30/high-school-teacher-placed-on-leave-for-allegedly-starring-in-porn/#ixzz1fApoM93L[/url]

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4257960]
    Know what else is expensive? The car I need to drive to work. Maybe I should get that subsidized from the government too. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    Bit would tell you to move closer as he has Warfish in the past...

    You can fix your own problem if you're (R) but a (D) needs help.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4258160]Maybe they aren't working for maximum profit but instead because they want to run their own business and feel they are providing a service.[/QUOTE]

    Trust me...they are working for maximum profit. But a facility costs on excess of $1 million or you rent. Either way , the fixed costs are in excess of $40,000 a month for a typical Goddard School or gateway center etc....

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