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    Trent Dilfer tweets on Sanchez film study

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Jets/Schotty: Plenty of deep routes called, QB not pulling trigger & rec/O-line not allowing success. U can't see it on TV copy
    16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Everything that has gone wrong w/Jets 2011 O & Mark specifically is correctable. Takes HUGE investment & self awareness
    18 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez/Schotty:GR8 adjustment w/protection schemes by Schotty vs Bills.Added backs & TE chip/thump help.Made Sanchez comfortable
    22 minutes ago


    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    “@dtrainn77: @TDESPN what you mean audible TD vs DEN?”Sanchez audibled vs Casino blitz to TD play & 10 & 17 didn't run it. Mental errors
    31 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Schotty haters need to chill, solid run schemes, gr8 pass concepts, balanced play calling. This is a player issue!


    #filmstudy Sanchez:Big blame goes to rec as well this year, inconsistent routes makes it hard to trust them. Rec butchered audible TD vs Den
    34 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: He has actually been very good this year throwing to his primary target, his eyes & feet stay calm & stroke is quicker
    38 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Pocket presence & the ability to manipulate the pocket smoothly allows a QB to be accurate to 2-4 in their progressions
    39 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez' bouncing eyes: Think of being on a bumpy road in a car driving 60 & trying to read the small print on a street sign.
    40 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy grammar correction: When your eyes bounce,your footwork gets frenetic instead of rhythmical.Once this happens, accuracy is tough
    43 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez:Worse O-line play than yrs past contribute, but r not excuse. Demons get loud, but the really good ones fight them off.
    46 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: When your eyes bounce, u your footwork gets frenetic instead of rhythmical.Once this happens you pocket presence suffers
    47 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Biggest flaw I notice right now is that is eyes are lying to his feet! Eyes are bouncing instead of staying calm & level

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    Let's hire Trent Dilfer as Mark's QB coach.

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    Interesting. Without access to the All-22 camera angle we really don't know what's going on.


    ALL 22 Info:
    [url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203716204577015903150731054.html[/url]

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    Rich Gannons see's these problems, Dilfer see's these problems. I really hope ANYONE on the Jets coaching staff sees this. We really need a better QB coach as much as a OC.

    And reading about the Wr's not running the routes and not playing well, starting to think it was a bad idea giving a big pay day to Holmes. Jets need to start drafting WR's so Sanchez can be in complete control of this offense.

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    Nice to see he's finally taking a closer look. For the longest time he was blindly blowing sunshine up people's butts about Sanchez(he being a fellow California QB and all).

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    [QUOTE=halfsharkalligatorhalfman;4258768]Interesting. Without access to the All-22 camera angle we really don't know what's going on.


    ALL 22 Info:
    [url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203716204577015903150731054.html[/url][/QUOTE]

    So coaches are too big of p*ssies to take the heat of being actually analyzed?? Seems like some weak BS to me.

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    If every facet of our offense has an issue, which Dilfer is essentially indicating they do, then, I'm sorry, that falls on the OC, imo. As, the OC is responsible for overall quality control of the entire offense. If EVERYTHING is broken, how is that a good job in preparation by the OC?

    How is your QB, your WRs, your tight end, your o-line, everyone not going to be executing well, and I think anything other than... They're lacking something in preparation and coaching?

    It's the coaches jobs, to make the players self aware, and correct the issues. PERIOD.

    I know Mark said today, he and Tone have been talking a lot about the routes and miscommunications, and practicing hard to eliminate their communication issues, route issues, ball placement, etc.

    Mark was saying how it's frustrating for them, because he and Tone know they're better than what they've been doing, how they've been playing, because they know they have such great chemistry, and such open communication, they know they shouldn't be playing games like the one they did against Buffalo.

    Mark noted that they're working through a lot of things, trying to get better, like every detail, like how he was more and more "leading Tone" across the middle in to defenders, in a way that was going to get Tone's head knocked off, so it was starting to be an issue. He noted how Tone needed him to get the ball lower for him, or deliver quicker, and vice versa, Mark was telling Tone that they weren't making the same route adjustments on the plays, and adjustments on the routes were being messed up sometimes, so they had to work to get on the same page. And, Mark said Tone is really open to taking criticism, because he wants to do anything to help the team get better, and has been practicing his "butt" off to fix the issues on his end, and Mark said he's doing the same. Mark said all of that today. So, those two aren't lacking in self awareness.

    SO, again, I say... The players know there are issues, too. And have talked about them.

    The coaches should be helping in getting this righted. No? I mean, what are they doing? The players are aware, where's the coaching/guidance?
    Last edited by lovethejets; 12-01-2011 at 01:40 AM.

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    [QUOTE=Bugg Superstar;4258766]TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    [B]#filmstudy Jets/Schotty: Plenty of deep routes called, QB not pulling trigger & rec/O-line not allowing success. U can't see it on TV copy[/B]
    16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Everything that has gone wrong w/Jets 2011 O & Mark specifically is correctable. Takes HUGE investment & self awareness
    18 minutes ago
    [B]
    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez/Schotty:GR8 adjustment w/protection schemes by Schotty vs Bills.Added backs & TE chip/thump help.Made Sanchez comfortable
    22 minutes ago [/B]


    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    “@dtrainn77: @TDESPN what you mean audible TD vs DEN?”Sanchez audibled vs Casino blitz to TD play & 10 & 17 didn't run it. Mental errors
    31 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer [B][SIZE="7"]
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Schotty haters need to chill, solid run schemes, gr8 pass concepts, balanced play calling. This is a player issue![/SIZE][/B]


    #filmstudy Sanchez:Big blame goes to rec as well this year, inconsistent routes makes it hard to trust them. Rec butchered audible TD vs Den
    34 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: He has actually been very good this year throwing to his primary target, his eyes & feet stay calm & stroke is quicker
    38 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Pocket presence & the ability to manipulate the pocket smoothly allows a QB to be accurate to 2-4 in their progressions
    39 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez' bouncing eyes: Think of being on a bumpy road in a car driving 60 & trying to read the small print on a street sign.
    40 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy grammar correction: When your eyes bounce,your footwork gets frenetic instead of rhythmical.Once this happens, accuracy is tough
    43 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez:Worse O-line play than yrs past contribute, but r not excuse. Demons get loud, but the really good ones fight them off.
    46 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: When your eyes bounce, u your footwork gets frenetic instead of rhythmical.Once this happens you pocket presence suffers
    47 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Biggest flaw I notice right now is that is eyes are lying to his feet! Eyes are bouncing instead of staying calm & level[/QUOTE]

    Im not Pro Schotty or anything, but this is interesting to read--Because Schotty has been the primary scapegoat for everything that has went wrong on O this year.

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    [QUOTE=jxc;4258776][B]Nice to see he's finally taking a closer look.[/B] For the longest time he was blindly blowing sunshine up people's butts about Sanchez(he being a fellow California QB and all).[/QUOTE]

    Or maybe he was the whole time. He says some pretty positive things about mark in there. But I am guessing that doesn't fit your argument... so carry on.

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    [QUOTE=Bugg Superstar;4258766]TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Jets/Schotty: Plenty of deep routes called, QB not pulling trigger & rec/O-line not allowing success. U can't see it on TV copy
    16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    [COLOR="Red"]If the rec and Oline arent "allowing success" could Mark not pulling the trigger because of pressure and not getting the time needed to stand in pocket and deliver?[/COLOR]

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Everything that has gone wrong w/Jets 2011 O & Mark specifically is correctable. Takes HUGE investment & self awareness
    18 minutes ago

    [COLOR="red"]Obviously its correctable, everything in FB is. But if EVERYTHING on the Offense (QB, line, receivers and backs) is messed up doesnt that fall on the OC?[/COLOR]

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez/Schotty:GR8 adjustment w/protection schemes by Schotty vs Bills.Added backs & TE chip/thump help.Made Sanchez comfortable
    22 minutes ago

    [COLOR="red"]Definitly the best game the oline has had in a few weeks [/COLOR]

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    “@dtrainn77: @TDESPN what you mean audible TD vs DEN?”Sanchez audibled vs Casino blitz to TD play & 10 & 17 didn't run it. Mental errors
    31 minutes ago

    [COLOR="red"]Miscommunication shouldnt be [B]THIS[/B] big of a problem this late in the season[/COLOR]

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Schotty haters need to chill, solid run schemes, gr8 pass concepts, balanced play calling. This is a player issue!

    [COLOR="red"]Jets fans have seen schotty for 6 years, we know what to expect with him running the O, we dont need to "chill". If everything is
    "solid" then why can the players, all of them, correct it. I find it hard to believe that the 11 starters on offense are all to blame for the errors with such "solid" play designs[/COLOR]

    #filmstudy Sanchez:Big blame goes to rec as well this year, inconsistent routes makes it hard to trust them. Rec butchered audible TD vs Den
    34 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: He has actually been very good this year throwing to his primary target, his eyes & feet stay calm & stroke is quicker
    38 minutes ago

    [COLOR="red"]Magnus says fcuk you[/COLOR]

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Pocket presence & the ability to manipulate the pocket smoothly allows a QB to be accurate to 2-4 in their progressions
    39 minutes ago

    [COLOR="red"]We've all seen Sanchez escape multiple near sacks and shake off 300+ DT's but i would love to see Mark watch video of Brady, Brees, and Manning and study the slides they do. Just one step can make all the difference between a sack and an extra 2-3 sec[/COLOR]

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez' bouncing eyes: Think of being on a bumpy road in a car driving 60 & trying to read the small print on a street sign.
    40 minutes ago

    [COLOR="red"]I would love for Dilfer to explain how to correct this problem to the fans. I would think/hope it comes with experience and vet savvy[/COLOR]

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy grammar correction: When your eyes bounce,your footwork gets frenetic instead of rhythmical.Once this happens, accuracy is tough
    43 minutes ago

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez:Worse O-line play than yrs past contribute, but r not excuse. Demons get loud, but the really good ones fight them off.
    46 minutes ago

    [COLOR="red"]cant tell if hes talking about Sanchez or Oline play[/COLOR]

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: When your eyes bounce, u your footwork gets frenetic instead of rhythmical.Once this happens you pocket presence suffers
    47 minutes ago

    [COLOR="red"]cant help but to think of Peyton Manning and his "happy feet", this seems like it comes with experience and maturity at the QB position[/COLOR]

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Sanchez: Biggest flaw I notice right now is that is eyes are lying to his feet! Eyes are bouncing instead of staying calm & level[/QUOTE]

    [COLOR="red"] I think Dilfer (whos opinion i respect and appreciate being that he is the only talking head who seems to know what the F hes talking about) would be an excellent QB coach. [/COLOR]

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    Dillfer simply OUTSTANDING as always!!!!:yes:

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    [QUOTE=jxc;4258776]Nice to see he's finally taking a closer look. For the longest time he was blindly blowing sunshine up people's butts about Sanchez(he being a fellow California QB and all).[/QUOTE]

    he was mostly giving Sanchez AND Schotty (that hurt) props. But i guess that doesnt fit your agenda, no go watch Freeman suck and tell me he's teh awesomest QB everz

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    [QUOTE=Charlie Brown;4258796]Dillfer simply OUTSTANDING as always!!!!:yes:[/QUOTE]

    Would love to have him on the staff coaching Sanchez, Dilfer is easily my favorite analyst to listen to along with Mayock.

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    [QUOTE=Pavilion;4258797]he was mostly giving Sanchez AND Schotty (that hurt) props. But i guess that doesnt fit your agenda, no go watch Freeman suck and tell me he's teh awesomest QB everz[/QUOTE]

    This link is going to create a lot of emotional confusion in your head. Please sit down before you read it:
    [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=6976713&_slug_=nfl-tampa-bay-buccaneers-josh-freeman-most-potential-qbs-age-27&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fstory%3fid%3d6976713%26_slug_%3dnfl-tampa-bay-buccaneers-josh-freeman-most-potential-qbs-age-27"]Trent Dilfer thinks Josh Freeman has the highest ceiling among young QBs.[/URL]

    1. Josh Freeman (23), Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Strengths: Freeman is one of a few quarterbacks in history who made 16 starts in a season before he ever turned 23. That group includes good company, such as Manning and Drew Bledsoe. Freeman is blessed with maturity, poise and the kind of build evaluators look for, at 6-foot-6, 248 pounds. He's an athletic guy in a frame that seems to imply durability. He also has elite arm talent. He has a fastball, but can dial it down well for his age. He's far too often called a big-armed quarterback. He has a lot more, and is still growing, which is key for this exercise. Freeman's greatest skill so far is how he extends plays -- he uses his legs but keeps his head up, like a more athletic version of Roethlisberger.

    2. Mark Sanchez
    3. Sam Bradford
    4. Matthew Stafford
    5. Matt Ryan
    6. Joe Flacco

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    [QUOTE=jxc;4258801]This link is going to create a lot of emotional confusion in your head. Please sit down before you read it:
    [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=6976713&_slug_=nfl-tampa-bay-buccaneers-josh-freeman-most-potential-qbs-age-27&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fstory%3fid%3d6976713%26_slug_%3dnfl-tampa-bay-buccaneers-josh-freeman-most-potential-qbs-age-27"]Trent Dilfer thinks Josh Freeman has the highest ceiling among young QBs.[/URL]

    1. Josh Freeman (23), Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Strengths: Freeman is one of a few quarterbacks in history who made 16 starts in a season before he ever turned 23. That group includes good company, such as Manning and Drew Bledsoe. Freeman is blessed with maturity, poise and the kind of build evaluators look for, at 6-foot-6, 248 pounds. He's an athletic guy in a frame that seems to imply durability. He also has elite arm talent. He has a fastball, but can dial it down well for his age. He's far too often called a big-armed quarterback. He has a lot more, and is still growing, which is key for this exercise. Freeman's greatest skill so far is how he extends plays -- he uses his legs but keeps his head up, like a more athletic version of Roethlisberger.

    2. Mark Sanchez
    3. Sam Bradford
    4. Matthew Stafford
    5. Matt Ryan
    6. Joe Flacco[/QUOTE]

    WHAT!! Dilfer thinks a 6'6 248 mobile QB with a rocket arm has a high ceiling!! GTFO!!!

    Yeah thats ceiling, i could give a damn about a "ceiling", Ryan Leaf had a high ceiling also :rolleyes:

    Now why dont you sit down and tell me what kind of season Freeman is having, does he have more TD's than Sanchez? How about passer rating? Who has more INT's?

    Now learn something about football and remove Freemans nuts from your chin but i assume you like them just where they are :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=jxc;4258801]This link is going to create a lot of emotional confusion in your head. Please sit down before you read it:
    [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=6976713&_slug_=nfl-tampa-bay-buccaneers-josh-freeman-most-potential-qbs-age-27&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fstory%3fid%3d6976713%26_slug_%3dnfl-tampa-bay-buccaneers-josh-freeman-most-potential-qbs-age-27"]Trent Dilfer thinks Josh Freeman has the highest ceiling among young QBs.[/URL]

    1. Josh Freeman (23), Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Strengths: Freeman is one of a few quarterbacks in history who made 16 starts in a season before he ever turned 23. That group includes good company, such as Manning and Drew Bledsoe. Freeman is blessed with maturity, poise and the kind of build evaluators look for, at 6-foot-6, 248 pounds. He's an athletic guy in a frame that seems to imply durability. He also has elite arm talent. He has a fastball, but can dial it down well for his age. He's far too often called a big-armed quarterback. He has a lot more, and is still growing, which is key for this exercise. Freeman's greatest skill so far is how he extends plays -- he uses his legs but keeps his head up, like a more athletic version of Roethlisberger.

    2. Mark Sanchez
    3. Sam Bradford
    4. Matthew Stafford
    5. Matt Ryan
    6. Joe Flacco[/QUOTE]

    Dated 9/18

    I would assume that Stafford and Newton would be at the top of that list now.

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    [QUOTE=TheMo;4258780]So coaches are too big of p*ssies to take the heat of being actually analyzed?? Seems like some weak BS to me.[/QUOTE]

    By opponents, ABSOLUTELY! And they should be. You want Belichick watching A22 film of the Jets all day?

    This is like criticizing Coca-Cola because it doesn't want to release its secret formula so that people can analyze it. It's because they don't want Pepsi to see it.

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    [QUOTE=jxc;4258801]This link is going to create a lot of emotional confusion in your head. Please sit down before you read it:
    [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=6976713&_slug_=nfl-tampa-bay-buccaneers-josh-freeman-most-potential-qbs-age-27&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fstory%3fid%3d6976713%26_slug_%3dnfl-tampa-bay-buccaneers-josh-freeman-most-potential-qbs-age-27"]Trent Dilfer thinks Josh Freeman has the highest ceiling among young QBs.[/URL]

    1. Josh Freeman (23), Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    [B][SIZE="5"]Strengths: Freeman is one of a few quarterbacks in history who made 16 starts in a season before he ever turned 23. That group includes good company, such as Manning and Drew Bledsoe.[/SIZE][/B] Freeman is blessed with maturity, poise and the kind of build evaluators look for, at 6-foot-6, 248 pounds. He's an athletic guy in a frame that seems to imply durability. He also has elite arm talent. He has a fastball, but can dial it down well for his age. He's far too often called a big-armed quarterback. He has a lot more, and is still growing, which is key for this exercise. Freeman's greatest skill so far is how he extends plays -- he uses his legs but keeps his head up, like a more athletic version of Roethlisberger.

    2. Mark Sanchez
    3. Sam Bradford
    4. Matthew Stafford
    5. Matt Ryan
    6. Joe Flacco[/QUOTE]

    Didn't Sanchez start 16 games before he turned 23?

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    [QUOTE=Pavilion;4258804]WHAT!! Dilfer thinks a 6'6 248 mobile QB with a rocket arm has a high ceiling!! GTFO!!!

    Yeah thats ceiling, i could give a damn about a "ceiling", Ryan Leaf had a high ceiling also :rolleyes:

    Now why dont you sit down and tell me what kind of season Freeman is having, does he have more TD's than Sanchez? How about passer rating? Who has more INT's?

    Now learn something about football and remove Freemans nuts from your chin but i assume you like them just where they are :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    I told you to sit down before you read it. Now look at you - you needlessly typed up a bunch of angry nonsense. :huh:

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    [QUOTE=jxc;4258808]I told you to sit down before you read it. Now look at you - you needlessly typed up a bunch of angry nonsense. :huh:[/QUOTE]

    Angry?

    Don't make me laugh. But really who is having a better season Sanchez or Freeman? Touchdowns? Interceptions? Completion %? Passer rating?

    Or do you already know the answer and know that its going to make you look like a dumb@$$ which you need no help with :rolleyes:

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