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    MittvMitt.com: The story of two men trapped in one body

    [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9njHHyRI7g&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9njHHyRI7g&feature=player_embedded[/URL]

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    1) Guantanamo...

    --- “running prisons which lock people away without telling them why they’re there or what they’re charged with" ---

    2) Military tribunals...

    --- “failed to establish a legitimate legal framework and undermined our capacity to ensure swift and certain justice.” ---

    3) Renditions...

    --- “To build a better, freer world, we must first behave in ways that reflect the decency and aspirations of the American people… This means ending the practices of shipping away prisoners in the dead of night to be tortured in far-off countries, of detaining thousands without charge or trial, of maintaining a network of secret prisons to jail people beyond the reach of the law.” ---

    4) Libya

    --- “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action.” ---

    5) Third site missile defense system

    --- "The Czech Republic and Poland have been courageous in agreeing to host a defense against these missiles. As long as the threat from Iran persists, we will go forward with a missile defense system that is cost-effective and proven." ---

    6) Darfur

    --- “should freeze the assets of the Sudanese government, its leaders and business affiliates; outlaw arms sales and transfers to Sudan; and prohibit the purchase of Chinese oil.” ---

    7) Egypt

    --- "No, I tend not to use labels for folks. I haven't met him; I've spoken to him on the phone. He has been a stalwart ally, in many respects, to the United States. He has sustained peace with Israel, which is a very difficult thing to do in that region, but he has never resorted to unnecessary demagoguing of the issue and has tried to maintain that relationship. So I think he has been a force for stability and good in the region."

    8) Space program

    --- ""As president, I'll make our space program a priority again by devoting the attention and resources needed to not only inspire the world with feats of exploration but also improve life here on Earth." ---

    Do you see where I'm going with this?

    And the guy I'm speaking about doesn't want to be President... He's flip flopping in the oval office...

    If that's your ammunition to bash Romney, you're in for a rude awakening when the primary is over and the GOP has an all out assault on the 'hope and change' presidency... They're going to absolutely destroy him.

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    [QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4260942]

    Do you see where I'm going with this?




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    That when faced with actually being President of the United States of America sometimes the realities of office such as the strength of your political rivals or the advice from the pentagon will force a President to break campaign promises?

    Or is it that Mitt Romney (a man who currently has Zero responsibilities) changes his policy stances according to the audience he has in front of him at any given moment?

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4260944]That when faced with actually being President of the United States of America sometimes the realities of office such as the strength of your political rivals or the advice from the pentagon will force a President to break campaign promises?

    Or is it that Mitt Romney (a man who currently has Zero responsibilities) changes his policy stances according to the audience he has in front of him at any given moment?[/QUOTE]

    He actually governs (see what I did there) more people than Obama...

    Funny how that works.

    And he has a successful health plan that he personally built, which he didn't infringe on 49 other states worth of people...

    Funny how that works too.

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    [QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4260942]If that's your ammunition to bash Romney, you're in for a rude awakening when the primary is over and the GOP has an all out assault on the 'hope and change' presidency... They're going to absolutely destroy him.[/QUOTE]

    lolz...

    They should be "absolutely destroy"ing him now. These true patriofantastic American leaders are polling neck and neck with a Muslim sympathizing, America-hatin' crooked community organizer. And remember...they already lost to him with a decorated veteran as his opposition.

    And now the best you got is some Mormon freak from Massachusetts whose policies are barely indistinguishable from Obama? And the other guy is some chubby faced, ex-Fannie May lobbyist whose only claim to fame is investigating a blowjob and cheating on his wife more than he gets his cholesterol checked?

    Just wow. Pubs should nominate Huntsman...but they won't.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4260982]Just wow. Pubs should nominate Huntsman...but they won't.[/QUOTE]

    lol, right.:rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4260982]lolz...

    They should be "absolutely destroy"ing him now. These true patriofantastic American leaders are polling neck and neck with a Muslim sympathizing, America-hatin' crooked community organizer. And remember...they already lost to him with a decorated veteran as his opposition.

    And now the best you got is some Mormon freak from Massachusetts whose policies are barely indistinguishable from Obama? And the other guy is some chubby faced, ex-Fannie May lobbyist whose only claim to fame is investigating a blowjob and cheating on his wife more than he gets his cholesterol checked?

    [B]Ju[/B][B]st wow. Pubs should nominate Huntsman...but they won't[/B].[/QUOTE]

    They wont because he is moderate voice who does not pander to the hannity/rush trolls by screaming about birth certificates and socialism.

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    People change their perspectives. People who do not are STUPID.
    Virtually every member of the Constitutional Convention changed their position on many issues. There were some pretty heavyweight players in that group.
    Any corpoate executive constantly adjusts his thinking on many issues.
    Any military commander adjusts his thinking.
    Anybody on JI get a divorce? Change in thinking.
    Change you job? Change in thinking.
    The list is endless. Obama changes also. An extensive list is provided in a previos post on this thread (thanks). He changed his wonderfull preacher Jeremiah Wright. Also changed the thought that he (Obama) entitled his book. Admits he stole it from Wright. That's change.

    This latest shot at Romney is just more of the ignorant mob mentality - similar to the one which attacks the Mormon religion.

    Last I checked, Mitt did not associate with too many people who were criminals or who advocated MURDERING police officers. And the pres?

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4260982]lolz...

    They should be "absolutely destroy"ing him now.[/QUOTE]

    It's obvious they're pretty much laying in weight until it takes center stage next year...

    That aside, they're too busy trashing each other for the primary anyway...

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4260982]lolz...

    They should be "absolutely destroy"ing him now. [/QUOTE]

    I don't know PK, but he sitting there with approval ratings below Jimmy Carter and they have barely started swinging yet.

    I'm confident some will attempt to spin some positives, but this can't be viewed as good news for ObamaNation.

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4261021]They wont because he is moderate voice who does not pander to the hannity/rush trolls by screaming about birth certificates and socialism.[/QUOTE]

    Perhaps someone should start a "Moderate Party" then? Then Huntsman (or his Democrat equivalent, not sure who'd that'd be) can run for what they are, "Moderates".

    Three Options > Two Options.

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    if Mitt Romney were President he would do the best job out of the GOP field.

    He's a moderate technocratic billionaire... descendant of the Rockefeller arm of the GOP He'd be competent but annoying like Bloomberg. He's at least a politician with some executive experience. And I like his MASS health care plan :D

    so good luck with all that. the base is in the process of eating him alive.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4261221]if Mitt Romney were President he would do the best job out of the GOP field.

    He's a moderate technocratic billionaire... descendant of the Rockefeller arm of the GOP He'd be competent but annoying like Bloomberg. He's at least a politician with some executive experience. And I like his MASS health care plan :D

    so good luck with all that. the base is in the process of eating him alive.[/QUOTE]

    They can't put anyone in front of him or risk tanking the election...

    They're letting Newt be felt out but Romney wins the primary.

    It was never even debatable as to who would walk out of the GOP field unless someone (i.e. Christie) joined the race...

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    When you win political office on the platform "Change We Can Believe In" and you turn out NOT to be change, because you're a feckless, dithering, teleprompter reading, office clerk, your re-election prospects aren't good.

    Romney-Unknown 2012

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4261221]if Mitt Romney were President he would do the best job out of the GOP field.

    He's a moderate technocratic billionaire... descendant of the Rockefeller arm of the GOP He'd be competent but annoying like Bloomberg. He's at least a politician with some executive experience. And I like his MASS health care plan :D

    so good luck with all that. the base is in the process of eating him alive.[/QUOTE]

    Mitt Romney is a joke. Newt even with his baggage is far better then Romney and far brighter and a great debater.

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;4261364]Mitt Romney is a joke. Newt even with his baggage is far better then Romney and far brighter and a great debater.[/QUOTE]

    But unelectable by the base that controls the swing states.

    Romney is it.

    Learn to love it or prep for four more of Obama starting now...

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;4261364]Mitt Romney is a joke. Newt even with his baggage is far better then Romney and far brighter and a great debater.[/QUOTE]


    Ted Kennedy was smarter than Carter. Carter was smarter than Reagan. So?
    People demean GWB - not a great speaker but a Harvard MBA.
    Gingrich is a bad guy. Wife cheater. Bad ethics. Crooked financial dealings. And his wife is a wh-re. We want that? A little honor please.
    Newt makes Nixon look like Lincoln.

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    [QUOTE=palmetto defender;4261653]Ted Kennedy was smarter than Carter. [/QUOTE]

    Have to disagree with you there, PD.

    That brain tumor Teddy developed did not arise because of overuse.

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    [QUOTE=Phoenixx;4261674]Have to disagree with you there, PD.

    That brain tumor Teddy developed did not arise because of overuse.[/QUOTE]


    Won't argue. Despised both. Ted did like the Chivas though, so perhaps part of his difficuloty. LOL

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    [QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4261244]
    It was never even debatable as to who would walk out of the GOP field unless someone (i.e. Christie) joined the race...[/QUOTE]

    you are probably correct in that prediction but don't underestimate the base. The tea party was a big winner 2 Novembers ago and these people botched handful of key elections in 2010 including Nevada (angle), Delaware (oconnell).

    obviously the power brokers in the GOP want Romney, and who runs for Prez is a bigger decision than who runs for Nevada Senator... but the question is can they go against the base? recent history says they can't.

    either way you have an unelectable base candidate or a moderate who the base hates. Neither is a good recipe for winning an election.

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