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    i wonder at what point did compassion and empathy become dirty words

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4270112]i wonder at what point did compassion and empathy become dirty words[/QUOTE]

    When it became mandatory, under penalty of law, by the State.

    And it's not a dirty word.....when done willingly, privately, without coersion, as many do without a guilt trip along with it.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4270115]When it became mandatory, under penalty of law, by the State.

    And it's not a dirty word.....when done willingly, privately, without coersion, as many do without a guilt trip along with it.[/QUOTE]


    Well done.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4270092]Post your address so we can each send you a dollar to help get you out of that cage. That is much better than working more/harder/smarter to get yourself out of the cage.

    I can't speak for Tater but I know that I have helped many people find and/or keep jobs. I have hired people to do work at my house. I make good money and I spend more than enough of it. I don't own a company so I don't directly employ anyone but I think the things I have listed above can be considered "helping those rats out of their cages". Sorry I don't have the resources to help more of you at this time. You might just have to help each other or yourselves.

    <edit> I also donate time and money.[/QUOTE]

    I want chocolate. And it better be the good stuff, not Stovers or Whitman. :D

    Seriously, I wouldn't assume anything about any artifical group such as liberals and conservatives based on the sample of charitable posters here, myself included. The interesting thing would be to survey what charitable givers have in common. My bet is that it has nothing to do with party affiliation.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4270115]When it became mandatory, under penalty of law, by the State.

    And it's not a dirty word.....when done willingly, privately, without coersion, as many do without a guilt trip along with it.[/QUOTE]

    So wait a minute. You think it's wrong to set up policies to organize assistance and support for the needy? It can ONLY be done privately? That's pretty silly. What, in your mind, is the purpose of representative government?

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4270115]When it became mandatory, under penalty of law, by the State.[/QUOTE]

    so no good samarian laws and a gunshot victim without insurance or money dies at the curb of the hospital...

    i dont see that as a better world to live in

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4270165]I want chocolate. And it better be the good stuff, not Stovers or Whitman. :D[/QUOTE]

    UK Chocolate is the best. Try one of these if you get a chance:

    [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Cadbury-Flake-Wrapper-Small.jpg[/IMG]

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4270168]So wait a minute. You think it's wrong to set up policies to organize assistance and support for the needy? It can ONLY be done privately? That's pretty silly. What, in your mind, is the purpose of representative government?[/QUOTE]

    There is a short document called the U.S. Constitution that lays out what our (federal) representative government it limited to. I don't think equalization of outcomes is in there.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4270168]You think it's wrong to set up policies to organize assistance and support for the needy?[/quote]

    Not at all. But then again, I didn;t say it was, you're reading into it what you WANT to hear, not what what was actaully said.

    as you well know, I fully support a Social Safety Net system for the truly needy, designed to get them out of being needy asap.

    [quote]That's pretty silly. What, in your mind, is the purpose of representative government?[/QUOTE]

    To protect and defend the liberties and freedoms of all citizens from threats and infringements, both external and internal.

    [QUOTE=bitonti;4270174]so no good samarian laws[/quote]

    Good Samaritan Laws do not compel compassion or empathy or charity. They protect those who engage in it.

    [quote]i dont see that as a better world to live in[/QUOTE]

    To you better would be the 1960's Soviet Union.
    Last edited by Warfish; 12-09-2011 at 03:42 PM.

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    To you better would be the 1960's Soviet Union.[/QUOTE]

    To you, Lord of the Flies would be the ideal.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4270186]To you, Lord of the Flies would be the ideal.[/QUOTE]

    [IMG]http://www.funnyphotos.net.au/images/hay-and-straw-men.jpg[/IMG]

    Difference is Bit, I don't advocate for policies of Anarchy.

    You do advocate (although not actually personally support) policies of socialiss/collectivism/state tyrany.

    And I'd bet you're a cheap tipper too. ;)

    Credit to LiL, he's a Euro-Style Socialist to the core, but at least he's rather honest about it. I may disagree, but I can respect that. He doesn't hide his real views behind terminology or dishonesty or an endless parade of straw men, like some folks do.
    Last edited by Warfish; 12-09-2011 at 04:11 PM.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4270077]I want a list of the "charities." I'm betting that those compassionate conservatives gave boatloads to "charities" that didn't have anything to do with compassion for the downtrodden. But I'll hold off judgment until I see the actual facts, not some bogus statistics.
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    Read the book. It's chock full of facts. What's bogus is wantful speculation like we see above.
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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4270176]UK Chocolate is the best. Try one of these if you get a chance:

    [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Cadbury-Flake-Wrapper-Small.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

    Isn't Cadbury Irish?

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4270168]So wait a minute. You think it's wrong to set up policies to organize assistance and support for the needy? It can ONLY be done privately? That's pretty silly. What, in your mind, is the purpose of representative government?[/QUOTE]

    Will it be run as effectively as the post office? Please. Government choosing who gets what and how much? Sounds GREAT. Gov't basically RUINS everything it touches.

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4270253]Isn't Cadbury Irish?[/QUOTE]

    Too busy eanjoying them, on the rare occasion I have one these days, to read the package in detail.

    To my youthful memory, they're "Sottish Chocolate" cause I used to only get them in Scotland, or when folks visited from there.

    Happily, much of the stuff from there is available Stateside. Like IRN BRU.:yes:

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4270275]Too busy eanjoying them, on the rare occasion I have one these days, to read the package in detail.

    To my youthful memory, they're "Sottish Chocolate" cause I used to only get them in Scotland, or when folks visited from there.

    Happily, much of the stuff from there is available Stateside. Like IRN BRU.:yes:[/QUOTE]

    Not sure why I thought that.. turns out it is English:

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury[/url]

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4270165]I want chocolate. And it better be the good stuff, not Stovers or Whitman. :D

    Seriously, I wouldn't assume anything about any artifical group such as liberals and conservatives based on the sample of charitable posters here, myself included. [B]The interesting thing would be to survey what charitable givers have in common.[/B] My bet is that it has nothing to do with party affiliation.[/QUOTE]

    This has been studied. Extensively. Read. The. Book.

    [url]http://www.amazon.com/Who-Really-Cares-Compasionate-Conservatism/dp/0465008216[/url]

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4270224]
    Difference is Bit, I don't advocate for policies of Anarchy.
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    the boys on the island didn't advocate for anarchy either. it just kinda happened.

    reading this forum for many years Warfish I dont think you've ever found a politician or a platform you truly support. Is that accurate? who is your dream President?

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4270310]the boys on the island didn't advocate for anarchy either. it just kinda happened.

    reading this forum for many years Warfish I dont think you've ever found a politician or a platform you truly support. Is that accurate? who is your dream President?[/QUOTE]

    Policies for anarchy? Please ask Warfish (I'm on his ignore list :D) how that is possible?

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4270310]who is your dream President?[/QUOTE]

    You first (tough guy?;):D)?

    Who is yours?

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