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    Eric Smith

    We have all seen this discussed before but I had to add this.
    When we saw he was the last man with a realistic chance of catching Cruz, and indeed he had the angle on him, did anyone actually believe he was going to make the tackle? Every Jet fan knew Cruz was scoring and I don't know what could be a greater indictment on Smith. Finding a safety with at least average NFL speed has to be the #1 priority in the offseason.

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    Eric Smith is a role player at Safety - he is a nice in the box player, and an excellent special teamer.

    He was effective in the role Rex had him in the past 2 years - a run-stopping specialist, blitzer and 3rd Safety in the short zones in passing situations.

    But he is not, an never will be, a good deep coverage player. He lacks the speed and the ball skills to be an effective deep enforcer.

    The Jets overpaid him and made a mistake in making him a starter beside Leonhard. He is best suited as a reserve where his limitations are covered up. But the Jets paid him like a starter and made him a starter, and he's not up to the job.

    Finding a speedy FS is an absolute must this offseason.

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    [QUOTE=mrcoops;4295055]Eric Smith is a role player at Safety - he is a nice in the box player, and an excellent special teamer.

    He was effective in the role Rex had him in the past 2 years - a run-stopping specialist, blitzer and 3rd Safety in the short zones in passing situations.

    But he is not, an never will be, a good deep coverage player. He lacks the speed and the ball skills to be an effective deep enforcer.

    The Jets overpaid him and made a mistake in making him a starter beside Leonhard. He is best suited as a reserve where his limitations are covered up. But the Jets paid him like a starter and made him a starter, and he's not up to the job.

    Finding a speedy FS is an absolute must this offseason.[/QUOTE]

    Beautiful post. Hope Tanny and Rex read it. :)

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    he should be a linebacker. he can hit hard and nothing else. Michael Griffin please.

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    what are you guys talking about. as per rex, eric smith is like the best safety in the nfl.

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    sadly, a Kerry Rhodes in his prime (yeah, I know it was only one year) is exactly what this defense needs(ed).

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    [QUOTE=freestater;4295175]sadly, a Kerry Rhodes in his prime (yeah, I know it was only one year) is exactly what this defense needs(ed).[/QUOTE]

    Agreed, and one other safety to replace leonard.

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    pool and leonhard's contracts are up at the end of the season. I would be stunned if they resigned both and mildly surprised if they resign leonhard (it will be tough for rex to give him up though). Pool is likely gone. So at the very least, one new body will be brought in.

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    [QUOTE=barkus;4295295]pool and leonhard's contracts are up at the end of the season. I would be stunned if they resigned both and mildly surprised if they resign leonhard (it will be tough for rex to give him up though). Pool is likely gone. So at the very least, one new body will be brought in.[/QUOTE]

    It's tough to imagine that we will resign Leonhard but in the end I think Rex will give him another look. In the end he is the guy that was the QB of our secondary and his skillset allows him to be a backup for both safety spots. He is a leader aswell. I just hope we wont let Pool and Leonhard go and still keep Smith as a starter. That would be a desaster....

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    the bottom line is smith is slow. remember that 99 yarder that welker caught? smith lost ground on him and he is not that fast.

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    let's be honest here. Eric Smith is probably the worst starter at his position in the NFL. Case closed.

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    [QUOTE=VonDarkmoor;4295050]We have all seen this discussed before but I had to add this.
    When we saw he was the last man with a realistic chance of catching Cruz, and indeed he had the angle on him, did anyone actually believe he was going to make the tackle? Every Jet fan knew Cruz was scoring and I don't know what could be a greater indictment on Smith. Finding a safety with at least average NFL speed has to be the #1 priority in the offseason.[/QUOTE]

    As soon as I saw Smitty was the last man to beat at like the Jets 30 yd line I knew it was a lost cause :(

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    Smith: The Quicksandiator.

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    Smith=Suck=Slw.

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    i'd keep smith as a hybrid LB in obvious run situations but nothing more then that....

    if the jets dont want to use him that way he should be released.

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    [QUOTE=mrcoops;4295055]Eric Smith is a role player at Safety - he is a nice in the box player, and an excellent special teamer.

    He was effective in the role Rex had him in the past 2 years - a run-stopping specialist, blitzer and 3rd Safety in the short zones in passing situations.

    But he is not, an never will be, a good deep coverage player. He lacks the speed and the ball skills to be an effective deep enforcer.

    The Jets overpaid him and made a mistake in making him a starter beside Leonhard. He is best suited as a reserve where his limitations are covered up. But the Jets paid him like a starter and made him a starter, and he's not up to the job.

    Finding a speedy FS is an absolute must this offseason.[/QUOTE]

    exactly. the guy is the captain of the special teams for a reason. lets keep him on ST.

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    ive defended Eric Smith in the past, but he's gotta make that tackle or at least push him OOB. the Jets need multiple starting safeties.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4296175]ive defended Eric Smith in the past, but he's gotta make that tackle or at least push him OOB. the Jets need multiple starting safeties.[/QUOTE]
    He can tackle pretty much anyone he can catch, unfortunately O-linemen don't get the ball very much

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    Eric "Slow motion" Smith

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    [QUOTE=VonDarkmoor;4296218]He can tackle pretty much anyone he can catch, unfortunately O-linemen don't get the ball very much[/QUOTE]

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwj90GMIeu8[/url]

    first off Cro and Kyle Wilson wiffed, that was not good. To blame Eric Smith for this situation is unfair.

    but evaluating Eric Smith, my interpretation was he caught up to Cruz and made a desperate leap for his ankles. Cruz hurdled the ankle tackle and went the distance.

    One possibility Eric Smith was out of gas (at their 45 yard line? not acceptable) or just a bad decision? too slow is a harsh phrase but it was too slow for a safety.

    Another safety could have ran with him for 20 more yards and ran him out of bounds. it would have been a big play but not a huge play. That pretty much is the job of the deep safety in that D is to prevent that situation and make that tackle.

    but it all starts with Cro and Kyle Wilson. To see that 3rd and 10 on their 1 yard line turn into a 10-7 deficit was truly a dagger. it took the wind out of the stadium (which was majority Jets fans) and they never got the lead again.

    if you are a real glutton for punishment, watch the pass Eli makes under extreme pressure in his own end zone. I think it was Mayhem who got a clean shot.
    Last edited by bitonti; 12-27-2011 at 09:27 PM.

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