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Thread: Adam Schein: Rex's real problem is Schottenheimer

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    [QUOTE=Buzzsaw;4296113]Rex is the head coach. He let his coordinator call 68 pass plays in a close game, where the run was working. Thats insanity.[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=Kentucky Jet;4296125]and then he threw him under the bus in an interview. It isup to REX to wake up and understand that he is the HC. HC stands for head caoch not headcase.[/QUOTE]

    That's because Rex isn't a HC.

    Any true HC with half a brain would have done an intervention at halftime.

    Sanchez threw [B]28[/B] passes IN THE FIRST HALF. When I saw that stat during halftime I was thinking, "Wow, that's a lot. They're going to be run heavy in the 2nd half." But, of course, Schitty calls for 3 passes to start the 2nd half."

    Rex has been utterly negligent in his HC duties. You can't just sit back there as the HC and let the OC call 68 pass plays in a close game when you're running at over 4 yds a pop.

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    That was it! When they went 3&O, the camera showed Rex flipping out yelling at the back of Schotty's head.

    I cannot believe it, but it's Herm/Hackett all over again. Hackett told Herm to toss off all the time; even when Herm intervened Hackett would always be right and "knew the best" how to go about fielding an offense.

    Rex should just...welll...damn

    SOMEBODY MAKE A PLAY!

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    [QUOTE=RoadFan;4295979][url]http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-york-jets-rex-ryan-brian-schottenheimer-is-real-problem-122711[/url]

    Here is who Ryan needs to rip

    UPDATED DEC 27, 2011 1:12 PM ET

    Loud-mouthed Rex Ryan should have saved his talk for his offensive coordinator. Or his quarterback.

    It’s our belated Christmas present, our weekly SCHEIN 9.

    1. The monologue

    The back page of the Christmas Day edition of the New York Post shouted, “Shut up, fat boy” with a picture of Brandon Jacobs in the face of Rex Ryan. Saturday was Ryan’s worst nightmare, and to a large extent, exposed him as fraudulent to his fan base. His team blew a lead and was rather inept in a must-win, bragging rights game against the Giants. Yes, this is the same Rex Ryan who is the “boy who cried Super Bowl,” going back to his proclamation at the NFL Combine when he didn’t know anyone’s roster and we were on the verge of labor unrest. This is the same Rex Ryan who wrongly claimed that New York was a Jets town and the Jets were better than the Giants. It is the same Rex Ryan who challenged the rest of the league to beat the Patriots, which the Giants did this season as the Jets went 0-2 vs. Bill Belichick and Co.

    Rex Ryan earned a free pass for close to three years in New York. He made the conference championship game in back-to-back years. He successfully changed the culture Eric Mangini had eroded. The free pass is over. He promised a Super Bowl title. In this regard, Ryan has proved to be full of hot air. Now the Jets need three different scenarios to unfold this weekend, plus they have to actually beat Miami, in order for the Jets to even make the playoffs. In the last two weeks, Ryan’s team was ill-prepared and choked away playoff destiny. It would be foolish to say Ryan is on the hot seat. But he has lost a ton of credibility with the fans, media and the city of New York.

    Rex Ryan knows his defense must play better and tackle, something it didn’t do in allowing Victor Cruz to scamper 99 yards for a difference-making touchdown in the second quarter. But Rex is a bright man. He knows deep in his heart the real issue on this team. Mark Sanchez has regressed this year. He was drafted to be a functional, winning quarterback with a good run game and dominant defense. So why would the Jets think their best chance of winning on Saturday was with Sanchez?

    Mike Florio reported on Sunday night that the Jets are starting to sour on Mark Sanchez, who was truly dreadful (again) against the Giants. Last week, before the horrible defeat to the Giants, one member of the organization whispered, “Our concern right now is whether or not he (Sanchez) is getting better.” That’s valid. But after three years and playoff success, you don’t change the quarterback. You change the coaching around him before you jettison your quarterback. You change the offensive coordinator to save your quarterback. The Jets are not going to chuck Sanchez to the scrap heap after his third year. He does have four road playoff wins. They want him to be coached up. They need Sanchez to really be coached up before making an absolute decision. That’s the responsible thing to do.

    Brian Schotteheimer has been maligned by Jets fans for a long time. A favorite of general manager Mike Tannenbaum’s, Schottenheimer was held over by Ryan from the Mangini era (or error). It seemed like a doomed marriage from the start. Ryan likes to tell the world he favors the “ground and pound” attack. That’s been more of a myth than a mantra. Schotty believes in anything but that. Rex, who at times still thinks of himself as a coordinator, lets Schottenheimer have full autonomy of calling the plays. That’s a problem. If you don’t believe me, ask Rex, who rightly blasted Schottenheimer postgame, questioning the logic behind throwing the ball over 60 times with a quarterback who truly is not ready for that. As Rex said, “We are not built for that.” It is inexcusable to throw the ball 60 times with Mark Sanchez. And yes, he’s talking about his quarterback, whether he states that publicly or not. Schottenheimer started out the third quarter with three straight pass plays, all incomplete passes, including a near pick by Deon Grant. With five minutes to go and the Jets down a score, he again dialed up three pass plays with a quarterback who can’t execute his game plan, eschewing Shonn Greene and the ground and pound approach. It was illogical.

    It begs some interesting questions.

    Rex is on the headset. How does he allow Schottenheimer to call these plays? It is clear they aren’t sharing a brain and there is a divide in the coaching staff.

    Tom Moore has been with the team as an offensive consultant. Do teams that trust their offensive coordinator, offensive staff or their quarterbacks, use an offensive consultant? Do they have a Tom Moore type in Green Bay, New Orleans or New England? I didn’t think so. Don’t listen to spin. Tom Moore’s presence tells you all you need to know about the Jets confidence level in the staff. The divide between Rex and Schottenheimer has been there for quite some time. Everyone involved with the Jets has been anticipating a potential break-up after this season.

    It was leaked to members of the press earlier this year that Schottenheimer signed a new contract. Don’t believe that this is iron clad. The Jets have poked around changing offensive coordinators and quarterback coaches. Matt Cavanaugh is not safe. And it makes sense. Coaxing Moore to become the offensive coordinator is an option. Offensive line coach Bill Callahan could be appointed to take over if he isn’t plucked by another team to be an offensive coordinator or head coach. And trust me, Callahan’s on the radar. I like Brian Schottenheimer. But it is clear he isn’t on the same page as Rex Ryan. And before Sanchez takes the fall, it makes more sense to see if he can be coached up and improve.

    Rex should’ve saved his best talk for game day, screaming, “Run the damn ball” at his offensive coordinator, before it became too late.

    The rest of the "Schein 9", unrelated to the Jets, can be found at the provided link.

    [I][FONT="Georgia"]I find it remarkable how so few people have been willing to actually write about this, especially the Jets beat writers. The beat writers for the most part; will knock Rex, destroy Mark, and then squeeze in a subtle mention about the playcalling often without even mentioning the name Schottenheimer. They often tread so lightly. What are they afraid of? Does the Jets organization "punish" those that call out Schotty with restricted access to the team? Why is it OK to hammer Rex but not Schotty? I find it really aggravating. Look, we all know Mark has some limitations but Schotty's time has come and gone 2 or 3 years ago. Fire this putz once and for all![/FONT] [/I][/QUOTE]


    NO these teams have OC's that work to their QB's strengths they know what can be done and they game plan accordingly...ours doest he instead has guys running routes the same direction and not far or short enough...we need a new oc regardless if we make the playoffs or not...

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    so why does it take until december 25 for any of the talking heads to bring this up? it was plenty obvious even last season that schitty is a poor oc. even the jets know it hence tom moore.

    i know it would have been hard to justify launching the little schit following two afc championship game appearances but really, the off season tape study should have told tanny and rex all that they need to know.

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    [QUOTE=bigdanNJ;4296043]rex should take more blame on the D too. the D, which is his specialty, isnt that good either.[/QUOTE]

    That's because he is missing quite a few needed pieces...hard to do when there is a thing called a salary cap, especially this year. And it will be worse next year unless some of the salaries are jettisoned.

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    Yeah, I don't think many good, well-run offensive teams use offensive consultants.

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    [QUOTE=BigJet85;4296365]NO these teams have OC's that work to their QB's strengths they know what can be done and they game plan accordingly...ours doest he instead has guys running routes the same direction and not far or short enough...we need a new oc regardless if we make the playoffs or not...[/QUOTE]

    +1 Schotty doesn't game plan to our strengths he plans against the opponents perceived weakness. That can work, but not when your weakness is what you're attacking with.

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    REX LAYING THE FOUNDATION FOR NEW OC AND NEW QUARTERBACKS COACH

    - as per adam schein.......

    ==Tom Moore has been with the team as an offensive consultant. Do teams that trust their offensive coordinator, offensive staff or their quarterbacks, use an offensive consultant? Do they have a Tom Moore type in Green Bay, New Orleans or New England? I didn’t think so. Don’t listen to spin. Tom Moore’s presence tells you all you need to know about the Jets confidence level in the staff. The divide between Rex and Schottenheimer has been there for quite some time. Everyone involved with the Jets has been anticipating a potential break-up after this season.

    It was leaked to members of the press earlier this year that Schottenheimer signed a new contract. Don’t believe that this is iron clad. The Jets have poked around changing offensive coordinators and quarterback coaches. Matt Cavanaugh is not safe.

    -- THE FEELING IS THAT Sanchez was running for his life much of the season and may even be banged up. Some new O lineman are in the works.

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    Adam Schein says that smaller meals are healthy; get to bed at a good hour and call your mom once a week.

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