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    Source: Callahan likely to Succeed Schotty

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    #Jets OL coach Bill Callahan, likely successor to Schottenheimer, in final yr of contract: source. Interesting that it got to this point.

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    What I like about Callahan is that he should provide a more seamless transition than someone coming out of the organization and he has more HC experience than our current hc.

    That being said, our OL's struggles this year have me somewhat concerned as that is callahan's unit.

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    [QUOTE=Maury77;4297929]What I like about Callahan is that he should provide a more seamless transition than someone coming out of the organization and he has more HC experience than our current hc.

    That being said, our OL's struggles this year have me somewhat concerned as that is callahan's unit.[/QUOTE]

    As I said on another thread no one was concerned when Callahan had the Jets as the Number 1 OL in the entire NFL.

    I think the key is the talent level.

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    Interesting....

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    [QUOTE=Maury77;4297929]What I like about Callahan is that he should provide a more seamless transition than someone coming out of the organization and he has more HC experience than our current hc.

    That being said, our OL's struggles this year have me somewhat concerned as that is callahan's unit.[/QUOTE]

    If it does happen and is Callahan it'll be interesting if he goes to a pure west coast system which he ran in Oakland.....

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    true enough about the oline trouble and them being part of callahan's responsibility, however, this may underscore how big a problem schitty really is. schitty is the coach of the entire offense and they will feed off of him. callahan can only coach as much as schitty will let him and it's pretty hard to coach plays that are absurd and for a coach that doesn't know what he is doing.

    how many times has anyone seen schitty talking to the offensive unit on the sidelines? almost never. he is the one that needs to be coaching them up before, during and after games yet all he seems to do is sit on his throne and bark.

    [QUOTE=Maury77;4297929]What I like about Callahan is that he should provide a more seamless transition than someone coming out of the organization and he has more HC experience than our current hc.

    That being said, our OL's struggles this year have me somewhat concerned as that is callahan's unit.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=sameoldjets;4297936]true enough about the oline trouble and them being part of callahan's responsibility, however, this may underscore how big a problem schitty really is. schitty is the coach of the entire offense and they will feed off of him. callahan can only coach as much as schitty will let him and it's pretty hard to coach plays that are absurd and for a coach that doesn't know what he is doing.

    how many times has anyone seen schitty talking to the offensive unit on the sidelines? almost never. he is the one that needs to be coaching them up before, during and after games yet all he seems to do is sit on his throne and bark.[/QUOTE]

    See this isn't accurate...Every coach / team does things differently..To use your logic then shouldn't Pettine being doing the same?

    And by all reports, Callahan is the run game coord, so those are primarily his running plays used/called...

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    [QUOTE=SouthTown;4297922]Rich Cimini
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    #Jets OL coach Bill Callahan, likely successor to Schottenheimer, in final yr of contract: source. Interesting that it got to this point.[/QUOTE]

    He's purely speculating as usual and I believe his real "inside info" is that Callahan is in the final year of his contract which is odd as he "seems to be" the successor.

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    I'm not ok with this. I want a totally new system and to clean house with every coach related to the offense.

    All this will do is ensure that we become and more conservative team and continue to try and hide Sanchez.

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    based on his work with Vlad, Hunter, Moore, Slauson etc. Bill Callahan doesn't deserve a promotion.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4297953]based on his work with Vlad, Hunter, Moore, Slauson etc. Bill Callahan doesn't deserve a promotion.[/QUOTE]

    Moore didn't allow a knockdown of Sanchez all year. Only guard in the league to do that.

    And everything I've read said Slauson was solid all year.

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    [QUOTE=baldnuts1;4297961]Moore didn't allow a knockdown of Sanchez all year. Only guard in the league to do that.

    [B]And everything I've read said Slauson was solid all year.[/B][/QUOTE]

    Don't bother. bit just never admits when he's wrong about a player.....which is pretty often.
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    This is not good news.

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    [QUOTE=C Mart;4297941]See this isn't accurate...Every coach / team does things differently..To use your logic then shouldn't Pettine being doing the same?

    And by all reports, Callahan is the run game coord, so those are primarily his running plays used/called...[/QUOTE]

    The coordination of the run game has been stellar the last 4 years. Even this year (a down year) the coordination of the run game has been very good. We just don't stick to the run at all. Some of it has to do with the Jets falling behind but the reality is that Schotty gives up on it. It is like he wants to show off his branch of the offense and when he does, more often than not, it sucks. At this point in time, Schotty needs to take his system elsewhere. It is time for a new direction as the coordination of the pass game has always been the problem. Schotty has always blamed personnel. At some point the buck stops with him and finally it looks like that time has come.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4297953]based on his work with Vlad, Hunter, Moore, Slauson etc. Bill Callahan doesn't deserve a promotion.[/QUOTE]

    ? Slauson's doing well, Moore had hip surgery, Vlad is a very raw, second year guy with no offseason to date, Hunter was thrust upon him due to lack of depth and injuries. Yeah the line (right side) is pretty bad, but I don't think that's neccessarily Callahan's fault.

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    [QUOTE=Charlie Brown;4297932]As I said on another thread no one was concerned when Callahan had the Jets as the Number 1 OL in the entire NFL.

    I think the key is the talent level.[/QUOTE]

    CB, the "voice of reason", one of the best posters around. The OLINE more than any other unit must work together to succeed. One weak lenk and the unit is a failure. Unfortunately Wayne Hunter had a bad season and Mangold was hurt. I am all or Callahan becoming OC if the JETS fire Shotty..........

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    [QUOTE=sourceworx;4297963]Don't bother. bit just never admits when he's wrong about a player.....which is pretty often.[/QUOTE]

    +1,000.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4297953]based on his work with Vlad, Hunter, Moore, Slauson etc. Bill Callahan doesn't deserve a promotion.[/QUOTE]

    Don't listen to Bit. Firstly, Bit didn't want Callahan as OC because we would take a top 5 OL coach away from the OL. Now, suddenly he doesn't deserve the promotion because he had an abysmal year as OL coach. Bit plays it both ways. You can write this garbage up any better.

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    Between SAR saying Rex should be making sanchez into a top 10 QB and all this on here about callahan not being a good coach anymore, don't we think we are putting a little too much emphasis on how these guys can develop players?

    DBrick and Mangold have made the pro-bowl multiple times. Slauson was a 7th round pick who has is a competent NFL starter. Moore graded out this year as a top 10 guard in the league. Is it really Callahan's fault that Hunter simply istn strong or quick enough to handle NFL pass rushers? Could callahan have prevented hunter from being thrown to the ground by someone 60 lbs lighter then him?

    Is it at all possible that after 3 years in the same offense, running the same plays out of the same formations, defenses know what we are gonna do and consequently make the olines job so much harder?

    He was a very good coordinator in Oakland and the biggest things he can do here are:

    1. Keep terminology the same

    2. Get our offense more vertical, which he did in Oakland, which will also open up the running game.

    3. Make teams prepare for different plays in different situations.

    4. Get the players back into believing in our offense (see comments after chicago game when multiple players said they were shocked that he play calls were finally different. Sadly that lasted one game).

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;4297953]based on his work with Vlad, Hunter, Moore, Slauson etc. Bill Callahan doesn't deserve a promotion.[/QUOTE]

    Good point...yet BC has been a HC before and is now a line coach?

    Who was responsible for DRAFTING Vlad?

    What type of success has BC had?

    Not sure I know enough about BC but anyone who sits behind Shotty this long doesn't show the kind of work ethic and ambition that I would want to see.

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