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    A look back at Sanchez's prospect profile

    [url]http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/mark-sanchez?id=79858[/url]

    [QUOTE] Overview

    Sanchez started just one season at Southern Cal, but etched his name in the school record books alongside Carson Palmer and Matt Leinhart, other blue-chip passers who came into their own during Pete Carroll's tenure as the team's head coach.

    The junior hopes that NFL teams will overlook his inexperience and regard him in the same class as other former Trojans quarterbacks.

    Sanchez started 16 games and completed 64.27% of his passes at Southern California. His 313 pass completions rank ninth in school history and 3,998 yards in total offense rank 12th. He registered 41 touchdown passes in only 27 games, including at least two scoring tosses in 13 of those contests (including seven games with at least three scores, four with four TDs and one with five). He totaled at least 200 passing yards nine times in 2008.

    Sanchez received excellent tutoring as the heralded quarterback at Mission Viejo High School, where his coach was Bob Johnson, the father of former USC and NFL quarterback Rob Johnson. He was named 2004 Parade All-American Player of the Year, Super Prep All-American Player of the Year, EA Sports All-American first-team, Super Prep Elite 50, Prep Star Top 100 Dream Team, Student Sports Top 100, Rivals 100, Prep Star All-American, Tom Lemming All-American and Scout.com All-American first-team as a senior.

    Sanchez also added Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-West, Long Beach Press-Telegram Best in the West first-team, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100, Orange County Register Fab 15 first-team, Gatorade California Player of the Year, Cal-Hi Sports All-State first team, All-CIF Southern Section, All-CIF Division II Co-Offensive Player of the Year and Los Angeles Times All-Star honors. The Los Angeles Times All-Orange County Back of the Year was also named Orange County Register All-Orange County.

    The All-South Coast League Co-Offensive MVP completed 151-of-245 (61.6%) passes for 2,441 yards with 24 touchdowns and four interceptions in 2004, despite sitting out the equivalent of four games (eight halves), because Mission Viejo was winning handily on the way to capturing the CIF Division II championship. He would finish his career with a 27-1 record as a starter.

    As a junior in 2003, he made the Cal-Hi Sports All-State Underclass second-team, All-CIF Division II, Orange County Register All-Orange County first-team and All-South Coast League first-team. That year, he connected on 161-of-211 passes (76.3%) for 2,460 yards with 29 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He also ran for 90 yards and caught a touchdown pass in 2003. In one game, he was 12-of-12 for 326 yards and four scores.

    Sanchez also played basketball and baseball at Mission Viejo. He spent his freshman and sophomore years at Santa Margarita High in Rancho Santa Margarita, where his first varsity pass as a 2002 sophomore went 55 yards for the game-winning touchdown.

    Sanchez enrolled at Southern California in 2005, redshirting as a freshman. He won the Service Team Offensive Player of the Year Award. In 2006, he took over starting chores for an injured John David Booty throughout the preseason, but was relegated to six games of reserve action once the schedule began. He was limited to 3-of-7 passes for 63 yards and one interception, but drew praise from Booty, who stated, "Mark is going to have an awesome career at USC. I promise you, Mark is going to do well at USC. Waiting a while to play is not necessarily a bad thing."

    Sanchez served as the second-string quarterback in 2007. He appeared in eight games, including replacing an injured Booty in the Arizona, Notre Dame and Oregon clashes. He went on to gain 695 yards with seven touchdowns and five interceptions, completing 69-of-114 attempts (60.53%), proving that he has the high-caliber arm to attract pro interest.

    Sanchez worked hard during the 2008 offseason, beating out highly regarded Arkansas transfer Mitch Mustain for the starting job. He suffered a dislocated left knee cap prior to the season opener, affecting his mobility, but proved to be capable of handling the team's high-powered offense.

    He was a finalist for the Manning Award (nation's top passer) and semifinalist for both the Davey O'Brien Award and Maxwell Award (nation's top player). He led the Pac-10 Conference in total offense (247.92 yards per game) and passing efficiency (164.64), with 34 touchdown passes ranking second among quarterbacks (Matt Leinart had 38 in 2003) during the Pete Carroll era.

    Sanchez generated 3,207 yards with 10 interceptions on 241-of-366 attempts (65.85%), adding three more scores on the ground. Sanchez surprised everyone, including family and his head coach, when he announced that he would forgo his senior season and enter the 2009 NFL Draft. Carroll tried to convince his quarterback that another year of college experience would help him in the pro game, but Sanchez said he had carefully weighed all the considerations before deciding to leave.

    Heisman Trophy winners Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart, along with John David Booty, all returned for their final year of eligibility with the Trojans. Palmer was the first overall pick in the 2002 NFL draft and Leinart was selected 10th in 2005. Carroll, who said he considers Sanchez as talented as any of those three, discussed the pros and cons with him. "We've talked at great depth and great length. We've covered this from A to Z ... going until late last night," Carroll said. "We don't see this decision the same. (But) I'm thrilled for Mark. For any of our kids to live the dream and do what they want to do with their football career, this is a great place to do this."

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    Attended Mission Viejo (Cal.) High School as a junior and senior, playing for head coach Bob Johnson, father of former USC and NFL quarterback, Rob Johnson...Named 2004 Parade All-American Player of the Year, Super Prep All-American Player of the Year, EA Sports All-American first-team, Super Prep Elite 50, Prep Star Top 100 Dream Team, Student Sports Top 100, Rivals 100, Prep Star All-American, Tom Lemming All-American and Scout.com All-American first-team as a senior...Added Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-West, Long Beach Press-Telegram Best in the West first-team, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100, Orange County Register Fab 15 first-team, Gatorade California Player of the Year, Cal-Hi Sports All-State first team, All-CIF Southern Section, All-CIF Division II Co-Offensive Player of the Year and Los Angeles Times All-Star honors...The Los Angeles Times All-Orange County Back of the Year was also named Orange County Register All-Orange County...The All-South Coast League Co-Offensive MVP completed 151-of-245 (61.6%) passes for 2,441 yards with 24 touchdowns and four interceptions in 2004, despite sitting out the equivalent of four games (eight halves), because Mission Viejo was winning handily on the way to capturing the CIF Division II championship...Would finish his career with a 27-1 record as a starter...As a junior in 2003, he made the Cal-Hi Sports All-State Underclass second-team, All-CIF Division II, Orange County Register All-Orange County first-team and All-South Coast League first-team...That year, he connected on 161-of-211 passes (76.3%) for 2,460 yards with 29 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He also ran for 90 yards and caught a touch-down pass in 2003...In one game, he was 12-of-12 for 326 yards and four scores...Also played basketball and baseball at Mission Viejo...Spent his freshman and sophomore years at Santa Margarita High in Rancho Santa Margarita, where his first varsity pass as a 2002 sophomore went 55 yards for the game-winning touchdown.

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    Analysis

    Positives: Ascending talent whose intangibles for the position are just as impressive as his physical tools. Cerebral player. Reads defenses well and rarely throws into coverage. Goes through his progressions quickly and takes what the defense gives him. Recognizes the blitz very well for a player of his experience and often targets the weak link on defense when blitzed. Good setup and a smooth over-the-top delivery. Legitimate NFL arm strength. Capable of making every NFL throw, including the deep ball. Rather than relying on pure arm strength as some of the other highly touted passers of the 2009 class do, however, Sanchez combines good velocity with rare anticipation, especially for a player of his limited experience. Consistently releases his passes before his receivers have made a break, giving the defense little time to react. Distributes the ball all over the field. Good short, medium, and long-range accuracy. Consistently places his passes where only his receiver can get it and throws a very catchable ball. When healthy, showed very surprising mobility for his size. Can evade the pass rush and will scramble if the defense gives free yards. Rare accuracy on the rollout. Squares his shoulders and can fire the ball with consistency and accuracy. Team captain. Blue-collar work ethic. Father, Nick Sanchez, is a fire captain in Orange Country, Calif.

    Negatives: Only one season as the full-time starter and leaves USC with just 16 career starts. Career record of 4-2 outside of the state of California. Undeniable tools, but isn't yet a finished product. Runs a bit hot and cold and has a tendency to score touchdowns in bunches. Characterized by those close to the program as a very cerebral player who makes the right read, but many of his touchdown passes went to receivers with five or more yards of separation between the next closest defender, opening up some questions if USC's dominant athletes and the team's aggressive play-calling helped inflate his stock. Injury red flag: Suffered a dislocated left knee cap prior to the season opener and his mobility was limited at times.

    Compares To: TRENT EDWARDS, Buffalo -- Sanchez, just beginning to come into his own after he was groomed in a pro-style offense since his prep days, might lack the game experience or incredible arm strength of Matthew Stafford, he does show a lot of moxie on the field, along with good patience and excellent timing and touch. He needs to be in a strong vertical attack, as he's best throwing downfield and does a great job of anticipating his receivers before they come out of their breaks.

    Injury Report

    2007: Sat out the season opener vs. Idaho (9/01) after he suffered right thumb fracture in fall camp.

    2008: Sanchez was carted off the field during fall camp (8/08) shortly after the start practice with a left knee cap dislocation. Sanchez, who won the starting job in the spring, fell to the ground before the Trojans began stretching exercises. Witnesses reported seeing him doing a carioca shuffle. He then went to throw a football, put weight on his left knee and collapsed. Sanchez was helped to the trainers' table, where ice was administered and his jersey and shoulder pads were removed. He was then carted to the locker room and was then taken for x-rays. An MRI revealed the damage. The injury was called a clean dislocation, with no complications (no ligament, cartilage or bone damage). The knee was immobilized through the weekend. "They put (the knee) back in (on the field)," said head coach Pete Carroll. "There are no other complications. He's real encouraged and the doctors are, too. It will be immobilized over the weekend, then he'll start rehab on Monday. It's day-to-day and we'll see how it responds."[/QUOTE]

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    Never trust a college QB with 5 star athletes around them. They often make them look far better than they are, hence the huge disappointment of USC QB's.

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    [QUOTE]Sanchez, just beginning to come into his own after he was groomed in a pro-style offense since his prep days, might lack the game experience or incredible arm strength of Matthew Stafford, he does show a lot of moxie on the field, along with [U]good patience and excellent timing and touch[/U]. [U]He needs to be in a strong vertical attack, as he's best throwing downfield [/U]and[U] does a great job of anticipating his receivers before they come out of their breaks[/U].
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    WTF!.... perhaps someone should have mentioned this stuff to Schotty?

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    [QUOTE=SONNY WERBLIN;4310401]WTF!.... perhaps someone should have mentioned this stuff to Schotty?[/QUOTE]

    Exactly what stood out most to me.

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    all of these things are well known. he throws the ball well downfield.

    getting rid of edwards did so much damage to him.

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    [QUOTE=SONNY WERBLIN;4310401]WTF!.... perhaps someone should have mentioned this stuff to Schotty?[/QUOTE]

    Lat year in Detroit I saw, in person, that brilliant long TD pass to Braylon. It was a thing of beauty. Same with the long TD pass to Tone in the AFCCG. Mark CAN throw a damn good deep ball. More evidence of Schitty's incompetence. Or maybe Mark is injured due to the beating he took because Schitty refused to help Wayne Hunter. The first play of the season when he asked Hunter to block DeMarcus Ware alone and Mark got drilled would tell the story for the rest of the season. Schitty is at the root of all of the offensive struggles.

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    [QUOTE=BLEEDgreenN'white;4310410]Exactly what stood out most to me.[/QUOTE]

    Same to me. Winning a QB competition against older and more experienced Mustain was a close second though.

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    [QUOTE]Negatives: Only one season as the full-time starter and leaves USC with just 16 career starts. Career record of 4-2 outside of the state of California. Undeniable tools, but isn't yet a finished product. [B]Runs a bit hot and cold [/B]and has a tendency to score touchdowns in bunches. Characterized by those close to the program as a very cerebral player who makes the right read, but [B]many of his touchdown passes went to receivers with five or more yards of separation between the next closest defender, opening up some questions if USC's dominant athletes and the team's aggressive play-calling helped inflate his stock.[/B] Injury red flag: Suffered a dislocated left knee cap prior to the season opener and his mobility was limited at times.[/QUOTE]
    That sounds about right.

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    [QUOTE=jxc;4310446]That sounds about right.[/QUOTE]

    You can pretty much say that about a lot of college QB's though.

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    [QUOTE=jxc;4310446]That sounds about right.[/QUOTE]

    Because all of those guys are lighting up the NFL right now:

    Joe McKnight- 4th round pick
    Stafon Johnson- undrafted (not his fault, tragic weight-room accident crushed his throat)
    CJ Gable- undrafted

    Damian Williams- 3rd round pick
    Patrick Turner- 3rd round pick
    Ronald Johnson- 6th round pick

    Anthony McCoy- 6th round pick
    Stanley Havili- 7th round pick


    Damian Williams has been the most successful of that bunch, by a wide margin. His numbers:

    61 catches and 811 yards in 2 seasons.

    Roberts Woods and Marquise Lee are significantly better than any of the guys Sanchez was throwing to.


    I think the more important part of that was the "team's aggressive play-calling" bit. Sanchez put up 8.76 ypa that year. Matt Barkley is at 7.91 ypa this year, with better weapons.

    Sanchez has been coached to throw all of these checkdowns, that's not who he is. If you let him play to his instincts, he's going to attack down the field.

    Brett Favre, Mr. Gunslinger, posted a whopping 6.7 ypa in this offense (which he did all he could to work around). That was with a completion rate of 65.7%.

    Of the passers that completed 65% of their passes this year, none of them had a ypa below 8.0

    Favre's yards per completion that year were 10.1

    Pennington's ypc under Schotty: 10.7 and 9.9

    Sanchez's ypc have gone from 12.5 to 11.8 to 11.3

    The aggressiveness is being coached out of his game. Another year with this coaching staff and he'll be beyond saving. I was hoping for Norv, but Spanos has crushed that dream.

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    [QUOTE=RoadFan;4310417]Lat year in Detroit I saw, in person, that brilliant long TD pass to Braylon. It was a thing of beauty. Same with the long TD pass to Tone in the AFCCG. Mark CAN throw a damn good deep ball. More evidence of Schitty's incompetence. Or maybe Mark is injured due to the beating he took because Schitty refused to help Wayne Hunter. The first play of the season when he asked Hunter to block DeMarcus Ware alone and Mark got drilled would tell the story for the rest of the season. Schitty is at the root of all of the offensive struggles.[/QUOTE]
    Schitty's unforgivable

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    [QUOTE]Compares To: TRENT EDWARDS, Buffalo[/QUOTE]

    Oh god, no.

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    [quote]Positives: Ascending talent whose intangibles for the position are just as impressive as his physical tools. Cerebral player. Reads defenses well and rarely throws into coverage. Goes through his progressions quickly and takes what the defense gives him. Recognizes the blitz very well for a player of his experience and often targets the weak link on defense when blitzed. Good setup and a smooth over-the-top delivery. Legitimate NFL arm strength. Capable of making every NFL throw, including the deep ball. Rather than relying on pure arm strength as some of the other highly touted passers of the 2009 class do, however, Sanchez combines good velocity with rare anticipation, especially for a player of his limited experience. Consistently releases his passes before his receivers have made a break, giving the defense little time to react. Distributes the ball all over the field. Good short, medium, and long-range accuracy. Consistently places his passes where only his receiver can get it and throws a very catchable ball. When healthy, showed very surprising mobility for his size. Can evade the pass rush and will scramble if the defense gives free yards. Rare accuracy on the rollout. Squares his shoulders and can fire the ball with consistency and accuracy. Team captain. Blue-collar work ethic. Father, Nick Sanchez, is a fire captain in Orange Country, Calif.[/quote]

    Reading that and seeing what Sanchez has become is soul-crushing, especially the intangible stuff. I don't care what program you play for, your decision-making process and mechanics are only adversely affected by coaching. Say what you will about the "speed of the game" possibly making him go from being highly accurate to inaccurate, the rest of this falls on the coaching staff.

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    [QUOTE=SONNY WERBLIN;4310401]WTF!.... perhaps someone should have mentioned this stuff to Schotty?[/QUOTE]

    This is the whole issue with drafting Sanchez in the first place. He is a gun-slinger. If you want a game manager, why draft him in the first place?

    They need to play to his STRENGTHS....people shouldn't be on Sanchez' back when he is being used all wrong.

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    reading hundreds of profiles a year, I've come to realize that most of them aren't worth the bandwidth. the teams have in depth reports that are more accurate but aren't public. these book report type profiles are filled with statements that have been repeated alot already about a certain player. Not sure how accurate they are. Every QB comes off like Johnny Unitas. the draft media neglects to mention how many players actually don't turn out to be anything.

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    [QUOTE=CanadaSteve;4310600]This is the whole issue with drafting Sanchez in the first place. He is a gun-slinger. If you want a game manager, why draft him in the first place?

    They need to play to his STRENGTHS....people shouldn't be on Sanchez' back when he is being used all wrong.[/QUOTE]

    The more I think about it, the stranger it seems. The Jets draft a guy who was a downfield thrower in College and try to turn him into someone who never throws the ball more than 10 yards.

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    He needs to be in a fluid pocket. Go back and watch were he has had success and almost all were on the run or in a hurry up type of situation. Shotty's plays that drop him straight back are dumb and plays away from his strengths...

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    [QUOTE=RoadFan;4310417]Lat year in Detroit I saw, in person, that brilliant long TD pass to Braylon. It was a thing of beauty. Same with the long TD pass to Tone in the AFCCG. Mark CAN throw a damn good deep ball. More evidence of Schitty's incompetence. Or maybe Mark is injured due to the beating he took because Schitty refused to help Wayne Hunter. The first play of the season when he asked Hunter to block DeMarcus Ware alone and Mark got drilled would tell the story for the rest of the season. Schitty is at the root of all of the offensive struggles.[/QUOTE]

    You keep blaming SCHOTTY but he has a boss. REX RYAN has to be the HC and not a headcase. He has to take charge and you have to remember that GROUND & POUND is REX;s game not the long ball that is a high risk play.

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    What we need is an OC, who will take Sanchez under his wing, mentor him, have open dialogue w/ him concerning how the offense is run (Brees/Peyton). Someone who will play to the offenses strengths.

    Out of all these attributes, schoddy, has not one. He has no interest in designing an offense to fit the players he has. He has HIS OWN scheme, that he wants to run. Essentially he is trying to fit round pegs into square holes.

    It isn't too late to save Sanchez from becoming an average NFL QB. 2 years ago, Sanchez played with so much passion, it's disappeared. We need change

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    [QUOTE=SONNY WERBLIN;4310629]The more I think about it, the stranger it seems. The Jets draft a guy who was a downfield thrower in College and try to turn him into someone who never throws the ball more than 10 yards.[/QUOTE]

    It fits right in with REX's desire to minimize risk and play GROUND & POUND smashmouth football. Only its ruining the QB they drafted! REX is the blame. Schotty is doing as he is told!

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