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    Van Halen has lost their minds.

    Almost $100 for 400 level and obstructed view at MSG. Everything else is $171. They can go fvck themselves with those ticket prices.

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    lol...

    With Kool and the Gang.

    Yup. They've lost their minds...

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    [QUOTE=petejet;4322201]Almost $100 for 400 level and obstructed view at MSG. Everything else is $171. They can go fvck themselves with those ticket prices.[/QUOTE]

    Thank God I saw them in high school open up for Black Sabbath.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4322277]Thank God I saw them in high school open up for Black Sabbath.[/QUOTE]

    +1. Blew Sabbath off the stage.

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    [QUOTE=petejet;4322201]Almost $100 for 400 level and obstructed view at MSG. Everything else is $171. They can go fvck themselves with those ticket prices.[/QUOTE]

    Irrelevant over-rated band is irrelevant and over-rated IMO.

    I always thought Eddie's playing was perhaps the single most over-rated playing in rock history. A few decent rock tune riffs, one or two enjoyable widdly-widdly-tappy-tappy solos (cold and emotionless technical-exercise-solos tbh tho), and very little else. Oh, and helped create hair metal.

    Enjoy the show.:D

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    [QUOTE=nyahay bus;4322290]+1. Blew Sabbath off the stage.[/QUOTE]

    MSG Show? I believe the summer of 78?

    I remember a cross , burning in the 8th row of something during War pigs.

    I liked them both...

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4322296]Irrelevant over-rated band is irrelevant and over-rated IMO.

    I always thought Eddie's playing was perhaps the single most over-rated playing in rock history. A few decent rock tune riffs, one or two enjoyable widdly-widdly-tappy-tappy solos (cold and emotionless technical-exercise-solos tbh tho), and very little else. Oh, and helped create hair metal.

    Enjoy the show.:D[/QUOTE]

    I dont know Fish.... Eddie plays a pretty mean AX. I am NOT that big a fan but difficult to argue his innovation on guitar. Eruption was VERY innovative in 1978.

    Go ahead...tell me that David Gilmour is better.:rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4322296]Irrelevant over-rated band is irrelevant and over-rated IMO.

    I always thought Eddie's playing was perhaps the single most over-rated playing in rock history. A few decent rock tune riffs, one or two enjoyable widdly-widdly-tappy-tappy solos (cold and emotionless technical-exercise-solos tbh tho), and very little else. Oh, and helped create hair metal.

    Enjoy the show.:D[/QUOTE]

    There are few guitarists who have changed the rock landscape--and influenced the next generation of players--with their new approach and style. Like him or not, Eddie Van Halen, like Chuck Berry and Jimmy Page before him, is one of these immortal guitarists.

    As for the upcoming concerts, you could not pay me to go at any price, even free. Having seen them in their glory years several times, Van Halen (both the guitarist and band) are a shell of their former selves. Plus, I absolutely despise David Lee Roth and his talk "singing".

    Save your money and go listen to the old records. Better yet, put on some Chickenfoot. At least these guys are putting out fresh material and can still play and sing live.

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    Agreed on the sentiment to avoid this concert.

    But as far as the prices go, they are neither set by Van Halen nor or are they unreasonable. People will buy these tickets, at these prices, however ridiculous that is.

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    [QUOTE=Borgoguy;4322322]There are few guitarists who have changed the rock landscape--and influenced the next generation of players--with their new approach and style. Like him or not, Eddie Van Halen, like Chuck Berry and Jimmy Page before him, is one of these immortal guitarists.[/quote]

    Except, unlike Berry, Page or Hendrix, the influence was almost universally bad. Van Halen is the Godfather of all the bad, stupid, silly spandez wearing twiddly-twiddly-twiddly failrock of the Dark ages of the 80's. If Ratt, Bon Jovi, Slaughter, Quiet Riot and their ilk are your pinacle of rock greateness, sure, Eddie is brilliant.

    Personally, I'd take the guitar-playing era before his (the 70's) and the rock Gods of that era, over Eddie any day. And in my pantheon of early 80's Rock Gods, I go Kill um' All > Van Halen I any day of the week.

    Van Halen was, put simply, cheesy fratboy joke rock with a technically brillaint, but (IMO) emotionless and feel'less Guitarist with fast fingers and no soul.

    Time has proven out the "no soul" portion on Eddie, IMO.

    [quote]Save your money and go listen to the old records. Better yet, put on some Chickenfoot. At least these guys are putting out fresh material and can still play and sing live.[/QUOTE]

    While not a Chickenfoot fan, I agree with this sentiment.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4322331]Except, unlike Berry, Page or Hendrix, the influence was almost universally bad. Van Halen is the Godfather of all the bad, stupid, silly spandez wearing twiddly-twiddly-twiddly failrock of the Dark ages of the 80's. If Ratt, Bon Jovi, Slaughter, Quiet Riot and their ilk are your pinacle of rock greateness, sure, Eddie is brilliant.

    Personally, I'd take the guitar-playing era before his (the 70's) and the rock Gods of that era, over Eddie any day. And in my pantheon of early 80's Rock Gods, I go Kill um' All > Van Halen I any day of the week.

    Van Halen was, put simply, cheesy fratboy joke rock with a technically brillaint, but (IMO) emotionless and feel'less Guitarist with fast fingers and no soul.

    Time has proven out the "no soul" portion on Eddie, IMO.



    While not a Chickenfoot fan, I agree with this sentiment.[/QUOTE]

    Fish, all that cheesy rock of the late 70's and into the 80's was inspired by Page. All in an attempt to model after Zep, without a fraction of the talent. Can't blame the innovator for the crap that tried to imitate it.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4322331]Except, unlike Berry, Page or Hendrix, the influence was almost universally bad. Van Halen is the Godfather of all the bad, stupid, silly spandez wearing twiddly-twiddly-twiddly failrock of the Dark ages of the 80's. If Ratt, Bon Jovi, Slaughter, Quiet Riot and their ilk are your pinacle of rock greateness, sure, Eddie is brilliant.

    Personally, I'd take the guitar-playing era before his (the 70's) and the rock Gods of that era, over Eddie any day. And in my pantheon of early 80's Rock Gods, I go Kill um' All > Van Halen I any day of the week.

    Van Halen was, put simply, cheesy fratboy joke rock with a technically brillaint, but (IMO) emotionless and feel'less Guitarist with fast fingers and no soul.

    Time has proven out the "no soul" portion on Eddie, IMO.



    While not a Chickenfoot fan, I agree with this sentiment.[/QUOTE]

    Thanks for correcting my omission of Hendrix. I should have added Clapton as well.

    IMO, Van Halen influenced other, more respected, artists/musicians such as Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Dimebag, Paul Gilbert, Jake E. Lee, Zakk Wylde, and countless others.
    Last edited by Borgoguy; 01-10-2012 at 01:04 PM. Reason: Forgot Gilbert.

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    Just as they broke up is when the folks said it would be ok to go to concerts, so I missed the original. Ive seen Van Hagar and DLR solo in the late 80's. Thats a steep priced ticket, I paid less to see U2 this summer.

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    [QUOTE=Borgoguy;4322338]Thanks for correcting my omission of Hendrix. I should have added Clapton as well.

    IMO, Van Halen influenced other, more respected, artists/musicians such as Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Dimebag, Jake E. Lee, Zakk Wylde, and countless others.[/QUOTE]

    Indeed, and Vai and Satriani are almost as technical-first, soul-last as Eddie was. Talents wasted on being the twiddliest, not the most passionate or soulfull. All three, Eddie, Vai and Satch, have produced some good deep meaningful music, but generally they are all twiddlers > passion.

    I don't deny Eddie influenced a whole generation of players. Some great all-time players too. I just think the vast majority who truly followed him were average to horribad at best.

    I think of Van Halen alot like I think of KISS. A few good rock tunes mixed in with alot of lols and foolisheness, and aimed squarely and directly at crass comercialism, not musical art.

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4322326]Agreed on the sentiment to avoid this concert.

    But as far as the prices go, they are neither set by Van Halen nor or are they unreasonable. People will buy these tickets, at these prices, however ridiculous that is.[/QUOTE]

    Tickets are still available via the Amex presale so they are not selling as well as expected. And yes these prices are extremely unreasonable. Semantics. Van Halen like most other acts set their own booking fees so they know what that translates into in terms of ticket sales. They will not be getting my money.

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    [QUOTE=Borgoguy;4322338]Thanks for correcting my omission of Hendrix. I should have added Clapton as well.

    IMO, Van Halen influenced other, more respected, artists/musicians such as Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Dimebag, Paul Gilbert, Jake E. Lee, Zakk Wylde, and countless others.[/QUOTE]

    I was in high school in 78, playing in a rock band and knew LOTS of guitar players.

    Van Halens influence AND tremendous skill were quickly noted by players of all ability.

    I would like to hear ONE, just ONE guitar player speak poorly of Eddies ability, ive never heard a real musician knock Eddie as a player.

    He was MORE than just influential, he was pretty darn good too.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4322352]Indeed, and Vai and Satriani are almost as technical-first, soul-last as Eddie was. Talents wasted on being the twiddliest, not the most passionate or soulfull. All three, Eddie, Vai and Satch, have produced some good deep meaningful music, but generally they are all twiddlers > passion.

    I don't deny Eddie influenced a whole generation of players. Some great all-time players too. I just think the vast majority who truly followed him were average to horribad at best.

    I think of Van Halen alot like I think of KISS. A few good rock tunes mixed in with alot of lols and foolisheness, and aimed squarely and directly at crass comercialism, not musical art.[/QUOTE]

    KISS???? Really? the first 2 albums are GREAT Rock.

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    Does not matter how crazy they are, or if in fact they realy have lost their minds,,, they will sellout and make a killing. It is not themselves they will be F*&king, it will be sell out crownds they will be F#*king along with the hot teller chick at the bank they are cashing the checks at.

    for the record, those checks will not have any of my money in them.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4322331]Except, unlike Berry, Page or Hendrix, the influence was almost universally bad. Van Halen is the Godfather of all the bad, stupid, silly spandez wearing twiddly-twiddly-twiddly failrock of the Dark ages of the 80's. If Ratt, Bon Jovi, Slaughter, Quiet Riot and their ilk are your pinacle of rock greateness, sure, Eddie is brilliant.

    Personally, I'd take the guitar-playing era before his (the 70's) and the rock Gods of that era, over Eddie any day. And in my pantheon of early 80's Rock Gods, I go Kill um' All > Van Halen I any day of the week.

    Van Halen was, put simply, cheesy fratboy joke rock with a technically brillaint, but (IMO) emotionless and feel'less Guitarist with fast fingers and no soul.

    Time has proven out the "no soul" portion on Eddie, IMO.
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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4322352]Indeed, and Vai and Satriani are almost as technical-first, soul-last as Eddie was. Talents wasted on being the twiddliest, not the most passionate or soulfull. All three, Eddie, Vai and Satch, have produced some good deep meaningful music, but generally they are all twiddlers > passion.

    I don't deny Eddie influenced a whole generation of players. Some great all-time players too. I just think the vast majority who truly followed him were average to horribad at best.

    I think of Van Halen alot like I think of KISS. A few good rock tunes mixed in with alot of lols and foolisheness, and aimed squarely and directly at crass comercialism, not musical art.[/QUOTE]

    I like your passion. We'll disagree on this one, my friend.

    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4322385]I was in high school in 78, playing in a rock band and knew LOTS of guitar players.

    Van Halens influence AND tremendous skill were quickly noted by players of all ability.

    I would like to hear ONE, just ONE guitar player speak poorly of Eddies ability, ive never heard a real musician knock Eddie as a player.

    [B]He was MORE than just influential, he was pretty darn good too[/B].[/QUOTE]

    Truly, monumentally gifted as a player. For the life of me, I can't remember the jazz musician who, in an article on Eddie I read back in the 80s, likened him to Charlie Parker for his skill in laying down complex phrases and amazing soloing ability.

    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4322391]KISS???? Really? the first 2 albums are GREAT Rock.[/QUOTE]

    LOL. I did a double take on the Kiss comparison, too.

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