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    Senior Bowlers Who'd Look Good in Green

    This week of practices leading up to the Senior Bowl may be the most important week of the whole year for the talent evaluators preparing for the draft. While most fans may still be rehashing the highs and lows of the playoffs and are becoming preoccupied with the pre-Super Bowl hype, this is the last time scouts and personnel men will see these players actually play football before teams make their selections in April.

    What also makes it ideal is that the top seniors are here in one place for the most part (players like QB Ryan Tannehill and DT Devon Still, among others, are not participating), so scouts get to measure performance against top competition.

    This is also the first time the coaches really get involved in the process, which will change some of the perspectives on many of these players. Finally, seeing how players react to actual NFL coaching can be an invaluable evaluation tool as well.

    So with all of that in mind, we spent some time this week looking at the talent pool from the Jets’ perspective, and we think Green & White fans have some reason to be excited. There are players here in Mobile who can help your team! Let’s take a look by position …

    Pass Rushers
    This is a pretty good class, and the Jets could definitely find some impact players early. While Ryan and his defense have made their living off the blitz, they lack the one impact pass rusher that will force opposing offenses to alter their protections.

    South Carolina’s Melvin Ingram could be the answer. At 6'2", 276 pounds, he’s extremely athletic and cannot be blocked. He has beaten everybody here in Mobile, and believe us, the coaches have been looking hard all week for the guy he can’t beat. Some compare him to Dwight Freeney, but he’s much better-suited to be a standup, pass-rushing OLB in a 3-4. Think James Harrison with better cover skills.

    Alabama OLB Courtney Upshaw is another big outside pass-rushing threat who would immediately upgrade the Jets’ defense. This is a guy who might single-handedly be able to allow the Jets NOT to blitz. He’s explosive, and along with Ingram he's a sure first-round talent.

    Others to watch include Virginia DE Cam Johnson. He’s a shade under 6'4" and 267 pounds with great athleticism (he was a WR in high school). His versatility is what will attract most teams. He’s a hybrid DE-OLB pass rusher with the ability to play in coverage; the ideal utility guy who can fill a lot of different roles for Rex.

    Then there’s UNC’s Quinton Coples. He’s hands down the best pass rusher in the class. He’s had a very good week, showing great size, strength, quickness and technique. But his attitude has come into question for some scouts. The interview process will be a key part of his evaluation.

    Safeties
    Two players the Jets should be looking at are South Carolina’s Antonio Allen and Boise State’s George Iloka. Both are big, physical players who are forces in the run game but also show great range when playing the deep middle. Allen can also play press man coverage, which becomes huge when you start playing teams like New England. When they trot out TEs Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez, here is a guy who can drop down and match up well, using his combination of size, strength, speed and cover skills to play those guys in single coverage.

    Cornerback
    The best corner here is North Alabama’s Janoris Jenkins. He’s very talented and is an ideal man cover corner, but his attitude is a real problem, according to scouts. He’s a player who could step in and help immediately, but teams will have to decide if it’s worth it to have a guy who could be a real liability off the field. Louisiana-Lafayette’s Dwight Bentley is a physical, aggressive player who could be an ideal fit in the slot in the Jets' system.

    Defensive Line
    There are always good linemen here, and this year there is a pretty good crop of defensive linemen, which is good news for the Green & White. One player who seems to be a great fit is Washington DT Alameda Ta’amu. He’s 6'3½" and 341 pounds, with the agility and footwork of a much smaller man. He has gotten some press as an overpowering player, and he is all that. In short, he’s a beast. More than just a two-gapper, he can move and stunt, and can get through gaps to create havoc in the backfield with his quickness and strength. He can do everything that head coach Rex Ryan wants from a guy on the inside in the Jets' scheme.

    Derek Wolfe, the DT from Cincinnati, is a dark-horse player to watch. He’s a 300-pounder with the ideal size and skills to play the 5-technique DE in the Jets' 3-4. He’s shown his competitiveness here and has really helped himself. If he wasn’t here, he might not get a draftable grade. Now, he might be a good fit for the Jets in the fourth round.

    Another player to watch is UConn’s Kendall Reyes. Like Wolfe, he’s a 5-technique player who is stout enough to play some at the nose. He’s had a good practice every single day here in Mobile and has really been a highlight player. Finally, one of Tuesday’s stars was Florida DE Jaye Howard. At 6'3", 292 pounds, he’s explosive and very hard to block.

    Quarterback
    For those who are looking for a QB replacement for the Jets, he’s not here in Mobile. After Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III, there is some serious debate about who the third QB is and where he might be taken. Texas A & M’s Tannehill is undergoing surgery and pulled out of this week’s festivities, so he’s hard to evaluate at this point. The player we like as that third signalcaller is Arizona’s Nick Foles. He’s Ben Roethlisberger-big at 6'5", 244 pounds, with a big arm and the poise and experience to be an ideal NFL pocket passer. He could slip into the bottom of the first round but is more likely a second-round value at best.

    After him, the class is weak. Wisconsin’s Russell Wilson is only 5'10". Boise’s Kellen Moore was extremely productive but is not a prototypical NFL prospect, and some scouts think he may play baseball. He may not even be drafted. Oklahoma State's Brandon Weeden has an injury history and is 29 years old. Kirk Cousins of Michigan State has looked good, relatively speaking, but he’s got average tools. For him, a big performance in the actual Senior Bowl game could be very important. Last year Andy Dalton, Jake Locker and Christian Ponder all played well here and turned it into money for themselves. Whether that happens again this year remains to be seen.

    http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/arti...f-8df659ca78f3


    Pat Kirwan on Sirius radio said if your team needs a coverage safety, like afc east teams need to compete with Gronk/Hernandez, to keep an eye on Ilonka and Allen...

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    Thanks for the posts C Mart. One request - could you put the link to the article at the *top* of your post, instead of the bottom?

    It helps when reading the post to know where it came from, instead of having to wait until the end.

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    is this game on tv? i would really love to watch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TJ Sanchez View Post
    is this game on tv? i would really love to watch it.
    should be on NFL Network

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    Loved watching Antonio Allen play at South Carolina

    Not sure why people aren't aware of him, but he would be a great player for us to fill the Eric Smith role in the 3rd round.....He is pretty much good all-around and just makes big plays....He must have had 4 or 5 career touchdowns on defense at SC

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Koopa View Post
    Loved watching Antonio Allen play at South Carolina

    Not sure why people aren't aware of him, but he would be a great player for us to fill the Eric Smith role in the 3rd round.....He is pretty much good all-around and just makes big plays....He must have had 4 or 5 career touchdowns on defense at SC
    He is a hybrid S/LB who can only play in the box. We already got a player like that (Smith) even though I wouldnt mind replacing him. To spend a third rounder on a situational player though wouldnt be smart imo...

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    where is this guy projected? third or fourth round?

    Washington DT Alameda Ta’amu. He’s 6'3½" and 341 pounds.

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    Nice read. I was just wondering why we're not talking about Coples more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HessStation View Post
    Nice read. I was just wondering why we're not talking about Coples more.
    i think most have him off the board in the top ten. very unlikely he falls to 16. Ingram or Upshaw could very well be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycuse View Post
    i think most have him off the board in the top ten. very unlikely he falls to 16. Ingram or Upshaw could very well be there.
    +1. Can't imagine any scenario where he falls to us absent some undisclosed injury or upcoming drug-related arrest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming Mo View Post
    He is a hybrid S/LB who can only play in the box. We already got a player like that (Smith) even though I wouldnt mind replacing him. To spend a third rounder on a situational player though wouldnt be smart imo...
    can only play in the box? According to who? I disagree, Allen is very fluid and fast enough.....Just because he wasn't used in that way all that much, doesn't mean he couldn't do it

    I think he could compete for the strong safety job....what Eric smith played all of this season, embarrassing himself multiple times.....it needs to be upgraded asap
    Last edited by King Koopa; 01-29-2012 at 10:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycuse View Post
    where is this guy projected? third or fourth round?

    Washington DT Alameda Ta’amu. He’s 6'3½" and 341 pounds.
    I hope the Jets end up with him, I have him in the mock one of the Pats fans posted going in the 4th (I think the ranking were from CBS or something) but he'll be gone in 2nd I think.
    Last edited by New York Mick; 01-30-2012 at 05:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycuse View Post
    where is this guy projected? third or fourth round?

    Washington DT Alameda Ta’amu. He’s 6'3½" and 341 pounds.
    I think with the strength he showed he could go late 2nd round. Basically think his best case scenario is becoming Pouha, which is a damn good player. Won't bring much in terms of pass rush and that ultimately hurts him. Just doesn't have the Wilfork like athleticism.

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    Ingram for me

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