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    I heard about that Florida high school story thats disgusting.

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4373239]I clicked a few of the links. Didn't find anything of value in them. They still sound more like gripes than actual solutions with any level of detail. A lot of it presents off of total falsehoods, too.

    A "fair tax plan" isn't a plan. How specifically do we make it "fairer"? They leave out so much of the story of our current tax plan that it barely scratches the surface of the issue.

    Don't expect this to go any further than sleeping in the park did.[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE]A Fair Tax Code. A complete reformation and simplification of the United States Tax Code to require [B]ALL individuals and corporations to pay a fair share of a progressive, graduated income tax by eliminating loopholes, unfair tax breaks, exemptions and unfair deductions, subsidies and ending all other methods of evading income taxes. [/B]

    The current system of taxation unjustly favors the wealthiest Americans and corporations, many of who pay fewer taxes to the United States Treasury than citizens who earn much less and pay a much higher percentage of their incomes in taxes. Any corporation or entity that does business in the United States and generates income from that business in the United States shall be fully taxed on that income regardless of corporate domicile or they will be barred from earning their profits in the United States.

    This will allow honest companies and individuals who pay their fair share in income taxes to take over those markets in the United States economy formerly held by income tax cheats.
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    Businesses and individuals that pay taxes in other countries will no longer be permitted to use that excuse to justify their failure to pay federal income tax in the United States if they obtain benefits from doing business in the United States.[/B]

    [B]Corporations that create jobs in the United States will be rewarded by the tax code and corporations that remove jobs from the United States will be penalized by the tax code.[/B] [B]The substitution of lower capital gains tax rates for graduated income tax rates shall be eliminated. [/B]This $4 billion a year “hedge fund loophole” which permits certain individuals engaged in financial transactions to evade graduated income tax rates by treating their income as long-term capital gains which are taxed at a much lower rate (approximately 15%) than income tax.
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    Id say that this is pretty specific as far as what they want.
    At least more specific than anything the tea-baggers ever put out

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;4373612]Id say that this is pretty specific as far as what they want.
    At least more specific than anything the tea-baggers ever put out[/QUOTE]

    What are the rates? How are we going to implement these drastic changes? We're just going to repeal all exemptions without any transition period?

    Without these and a myriad of other details, this is worthless.

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;4373612]Id say that this is pretty specific as far as what they want.
    At least more specific than anything the tea-baggers ever put out[/QUOTE]

    That's not true, but you get a pass since you don't deal in facts and there's no reason to start now.

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;4373612]Id say that this is pretty specific as far as what they want.
    At least more specific than anything the tea-baggers ever put out[/QUOTE]

    The commies love to talk about fair shares. I like this part: "The current system of taxation unjustly favors the wealthiest Americans and corporations, many of who pay fewer taxes to the United States Treasury than citizens who earn much less and pay a much higher percentage of their incomes in taxes."

    Romney is a perfect example here. He paid 14% which totaled 3 million in federal taxes last year. Thats much less paid in to the government than Buffets secretary that earned $150,000 and paid 20% or $30,000. Wait a second. Something here isn't working out. The article says that rich people pay less money to the treasury than upper middle income people. 3 million is more than $30,000. This doesn't make any sense at all.

    They must be referring to John Kerry when they talk about rich people. He makes his money on tax free muni's. So that must be it. He lends money at a discounted rate to the States in exchange for a tax break on the income. So he accepts a lower return and in exchange saves on the taxes. So he makes 3% on his money rather than 4.5%. Lending money to the gov at a discounted rate has a similar effect to taxation because the govt by default saves on the interest. Hmmm... this doesn't jive with the statement either?

    Darn. I couldn't come up with a good example to confirm the statement. Oh well. Lets just say it anyway. Obama said this stuff in his speech so the people must have fallen for it. Most people are too stupid to understand this stuff anyway. The ends justify the means right??

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4373715]The commies love to talk about fair shares. I like this part: "The current system of taxation unjustly favors the wealthiest Americans and corporations, many of who pay fewer taxes to the United States Treasury than citizens who earn much less and pay a much higher percentage of their incomes in taxes."

    Romney is a perfect example here. He paid 14% which totaled 3 million in federal taxes last year. Thats much less paid in to the government than Buffets secretary that earned $150,000 and paid 20% or $30,000. Wait a second. Something here isn't working out. The article says that rich people pay less money to the treasury than upper middle income people. 3 million is more than $30,000. This doesn't make any sense at all.

    They must be referring to John Kerry when they talk about rich people. He makes his money on tax free muni's. So that must be it. He lends money at a discounted rate to the States in exchange for a tax break on the income. So he accepts a lower return and in exchange saves on the taxes. So he makes 3% on his money rather than 4.5%. Lending money to the gov at a discounted rate has a similar effect to taxation because the govt by default saves on the interest. Hmmm... this doesn't jive with the statement either?

    Darn. I couldn't come up with a good example to confirm the statement. Oh well. Lets just say it anyway. Obama said this stuff in his speech so the people must have fallen for it. Most people are too stupid to understand this stuff anyway. The ends justify the means right??[/QUOTE]

    And the corporate tax "details" they go into would only force more companies and jobs off shore. These geniuses need to stay in their tents.

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