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    [QUOTE=Mantle & Namath;4381094]Michigan, Wisconsin and New Mexico aren't battlegrounds if you believe polling.[/QUOTE]

    They are battlegrounds but I agree all things being equal that they will go blue. If any of them go red the election would get to landslide proportions because States tend to bring other States with them. Ohio goes Red before Wisconsin does. My take remains that the election will be won or lost in Ohio.

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    The numbers and polls are meaningless at this point.

    Forty percent of the voting population is undoubtedly voting Democrat, and another forty percent of the voting population is undoubtedly voting Republican. The remaining twenty percent will swing it one way or the other as usual.

    Unless there is a fatal mistake made by one side or the other (i.e. choosing Palin as VP), the state of the economy 8 months from now will be the deciding factor.

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    [QUOTE=parafly;4381110]The numbers and polls are meaningless at this point.

    Forty percent of the voting population is undoubtedly voting Democrat, and another forty percent of the voting population is undoubtedly voting Republican. The remaining twenty percent will swing it one way or the other as usual.

    Unless there is a fatal mistake made by one side or the other (i.e. choosing Palin as VP), the state of the economy 8 months from now will be the deciding factor.[/QUOTE]

    Although it hasn't happened yet, don't count out a potential conflict in Iran as a factor.

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    [QUOTE=parafly;4381110]The numbers and polls are meaningless at this point.

    Forty percent of the voting population is undoubtedly voting Democrat, and another forty percent of the voting population is undoubtedly voting Republican. The remaining twenty percent will swing it one way or the other as usual.

    Unless there is a fatal mistake made by one side or the other (i.e. choosing Palin as VP), the state of the economy 8 months from now will be the deciding factor.[/QUOTE]

    Simple but true. The question for the moment is all things being equal, if the economy does what I believe it will which is continue to slog along in a weak recovery, then what?? Thats where I think the scenario I laid out in this thread comes together. Ohio goes Red and Obama loses.

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4381124]Although it hasn't happened yet, don't count out a potential conflict in Iran as a factor.[/QUOTE]

    Good point. :yes:

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4381125]Simple but true. The question for the moment is all things being equal, if the economy does what I believe it will which is continue to slog along in a weak recovery, then what?? Thats where I think the scenario I laid out in this thread comes together. Ohio goes Red and Obama loses.[/QUOTE]

    Fair enough. I agree that it may be close with Ohio and/or Colorado deciding it.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4381125][B]Pennsylvania[/B] goes Red and Obama loses.[/QUOTE]

    Fixed.

    And trust me. People in Ohio and Pennsyltucky aren't thrilled with "Dr. Magic Underwear Spaceman Religion Rom-sicle" and "Senor Sex Should Be Like It Was In The 1500's Santor-dumba**"....

    The GOP smells like a fish market dumpster in July during a sanitation worker strike.
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    February employment numbers come out tomorrow.

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4381124]Although it hasn't happened yet, don't count out a potential conflict in Iran as a factor.[/QUOTE]

    And donít count out Romney wanting to cut taxes 20%, Increase Military spending, while he balances the budget.

    How difficult will it be to make those ridiculous set of proposals sound exactly like the Bush II policies that got the economy in the ditch in the first place?

    And donít count out how the Republicans party wants to make it legal for business to not cover birth control pills but make it ok for Viagra to be covered.

    You know women are 50-ish% of the electorate.

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    [B]dead people who plan to vote for Obama[/B]

    zombies - now dumber than ever!


    The price of gas is going to be Dumbama's downfall - book it! That will really hit people in the wallet and keep the economy down.

    If Dems could pass Dodd-Frank, why not curb oil speculation? Because too many Dumbama SUPER-PAC contributors would lose money. The corruption is staggering. :mad:

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4381511]And donít count out Romney wanting to cut taxes 20%, Increase Military spending, while he balances the budget.

    How difficult will it be to make those ridiculous set of proposals sound exactly like the Bush II policies that got the economy in the ditch in the first place?

    And donít count out how the Republicans party wants to make it legal for business to not cover birth control pills but make it ok for Viagra to be covered.

    You know women are 50-ish% of the electorate.[/QUOTE]

    This is an interesting take. "Republicans want to make it legal for businesses not to cover birth control pills." Businesses should be free to purchase whatever insurance they like as long as they cover the standard guidelines for covering illnesses and hospital costs etc. I chose a plan that had no prescription drug coverage last year because I did the math and the $170 monthly rider was more than I pay on average for scripts each month. Are you saying people are too stupid to shop for health insurance? I'd rather pay less and get a different type of coverage. I don't see the big deal.

    This issue is particularly amusing because my insurance doesn't cover any prescription drugs yet my wife pays $5 for her 3 month supply of generic Birth Control Pills over at the local Wallgreens. So your entire premise is absurd as if the Presidents premise. The issue was never about birth control pills. It is about the Government being able to mandate that Religious institutions or religious people for that matter provide coverage for things that may be against their religious beliefs. This was a country founded on freedom of religion. When government starts to chip away at those freedoms everyone has the potential to suffer from the loss of freedoms. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Even government should not have absolute power.

    The larger issue with Obamacare is that the government is now mandating what is essentially Cadillac health insurance for all. These are the most expensive types of plans. The costs of insurance policies will continue to rise if for nothing else than the fact that the mandates remove the ability to purchase cheaper scaled down insurance. Higher prices will force people off of the private system and on to the public exchanges. There the costs to the government will skyrocket resulting in the IPAB reducing payments to doctors and denying coverage for experimental treatments. All of it will lead to the worst of all end games which is a significantly lower quality of care. When we or our loved ones needs an MRI or Catscan and they have to wait 4 months for an appointment, or 6 weeks to schedule a surgery or worse an illness is missed by a doctor because they now have to rush through all of their appointments to eek out a profit, thats the end game and we will all suffer from because of it.

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    [QUOTE=Buster;4381510]February employment numbers come out tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

    No they don't. Next Friday.

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    [QUOTE=Mantle & Namath;4381981]No they don't. Next Friday.[/QUOTE]

    [B]D'oh![/B]

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    Ohio voters in 2010 were angry at the president and at Democrats, and
    they showed it in voting booths: Republicans swept every statewide
    office, defeating a sitting governor and four other incumbent
    executives, adding 13 seats in the Ohio House and two in the Ohio
    Senate.

    On the federal level, Ohio Republicans defeated five incumbent
    Democrats, winning 13 of 18 U.S. House seats and helping to make Ohio's
    John Boehner the next House Speaker.

    Republicans also retained a U.S. Senate seat by electing Rob Portman,
    and they scored a 77 percent success rate in down-ballot county races.

    That reflects a lot of voter anger.

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    Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy):

    A system of government (currently prevalent in such places as South Africa, Venezuela, and the United States) where the least capable to lead are elected by those least capable of producing anything (except for babies), and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves/succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of effective producers...
    [url]http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2012/03/living-in-age-of-ineptocracy.html[/url]


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